....lybob Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 5 HORRIBLE Bills 1. Water Bill 2. Gas Bill 3 Electric Bill 4. Bill Crystal 5. Chris Kelsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defend Greece Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 5 HORRIBLE Bills 1. Water Bill 2. Gas Bill 3 Electric Bill 4. Bill Crystal 5. Chris Kelsay Dude this is hilarious +5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Ah, only to imagine what the team would have looked like if Trent Edwards was cut before hiring Chan Gailey....... Better yet, dream of what might have been if we never drafted Ternt at all !!!!!! I never did like Trent as a QB for the Bills. He is a great guy but not a good QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 And Bass Pro is coming to downtown Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 the hate on kelsay is completely irrational hes paid relatively cheaply for what he does. he produced pretty well for what they give him. hes a gem in the lockerroom. and he does whatever the team wants him to so they tried an experiment at lb and failed. then he went back to a down lineman and was one of the better defenders they had the rest of the way hes phil hansen on a team without bruce smith or any of the other stars that made phil who he was its just a shame that phil goes up on the wall (prematurely and probably doesnt deserve it) and kelsay has the bear the hate of the fans just cuz he played when the team sucked ass He's a poor man Phil Hansen at best, he works hard - motor guy also a white guy. But he's not in Phil Hansen's class, Phil wasn't great but he was good. Kelsay isn't anywhere near the word good, dime a dozen d -lineman I do think he is good in the locker room from what I've heard and read. If we were loaded on D he could do his thing and avoid some criticism, basically meaning the pile of good players would cover for the pile of run of mill players. When you don't have the good players the other guys are going to feel the heat of doing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defend Greece Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Yeah, the Kelsay hate around here is beyond ridiculous IMO. Like most, I don't agree with what he is being paid, but at the same time he is a solid role player for this team and a good presence in the locker room. He is a good rotational player, not the guy I want starting every game, but a solid 2nd unit player...and on a team devoid of depth at so many places, that has good value for this team. Can not argue with you suggesting Green be actually on the list at #5 instead of Nelson, I almost put him there myself. The guy was just terrible. I understand Nelson has the migraines, but it was his suspension and inability to get on the field when he wasn't suffering from the migraines that was the deciding factor for me given his potential in this style of offense. In truth, I could swap Green in for Byrd or Spiller too, Green certainly had the worst season out of the 3 of them, but expectations were just so much higher for Byrd and CJ that I felt their season was more of a failure than Green who had low expectations from the get go (although he managed to still play far below even those low expectations, lol). Like you said, Byrd seemed to improve a little late in the season, so that was positive a sign. I am still very high on CJ and think with a year under his belt, no confusing RB depth chart, and the extra time for Gailey to figure out how to integrate him better that he will bounce back with a strong sophomore year. I still like Byrd too and feel like he can bounce back. I think a large part of the short comings of our safeties last year was the ineptness of our front seven, and I believe Dareus plus a healthy Merriman as well as some of the other pieces we added will go along way towards a bounce back year for him. But this list was on last years performance, not this years potential. Dude I beg of you to go back and watch kelsay, just kelsay watch him, any game, any play, run or pass he is !@#$ing horrible!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 5 HORRIBLE Bills 1. Water Bill 2. Gas Bill 3 Electric Bill 4. Bill Crystal Clinton 5. Chris Kelsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 1. / 2. / 3. / 4. / 5. -Maybin. He is a man without a position, he really doesn't fit anywhere in the NFL. I cannot see why we prop him up when he has already flopped at 5 or more specific positions (Including Special teams). Don't you have to play to have a bad season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defend Greece Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Maybin should team with Tyler Meyers if he wants to play defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) Kelsey actually played some pretty good football when they moved him back to 4-3 DE. He was awful standing up as a OLB. I'm assuming he's going to be used as a pass rusher in our 4-3 fronts again this year. I'm still baffled by the extension, especially if he's just going to be a situational player. Guys who I thought sucked last year: 1. McKelvin- he's talented but he played so inconsistent. He seems to get rattled too easily. Oh and after you get burnt all afternoon don't do your stupid X thing with your arms when you finally break up a pass. 2. Spiller- I'll give him a little bit of a break because he's a rookie. Not patient enough last year. Hopefully the light bulb goes off this year. 3. Every TE on the Roster- Will we ever solidify this position? I'd love a game changer at TE but at this point I'd just settle for someone who is a decent football player. Sean Nelson has the talent but needs to work his ass off if he wants to realize his potential. I'm not holding my breath on that one. Edited July 15, 2011 by Stl Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWest Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 maybin has to be number one. he looks like michael jordan trying to hit a curveball. kelsay is awful in the 3-4, not so awful in the 4-3. stroud was awful. torbor was slow and pretty close to awful. bad might be a better term. i agree on corner. he really can't cover in the slot and that is supposed to be his forte. ayodele is very torbor-esque in terms of slowness, but he can tackle when they run into his small box of range. cordero howard is an atrocious right tackle. you might add him over torbor. hard to say. good thing is that all those guys, save kelsay, might be gone by september assuming there is a season. [/q The Bills roster has sucked because of poor drafting for years. They look like a minor league baseball team. The only name players they brought in during free agency over the past few seasons were Merriman and TO-Both guys on the downside of their careers that no other team really wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 1. / 2. / 3. / 4. / 5. -Maybin. He is a man without a position, he really doesn't fit anywhere in the NFL. I cannot see why we prop him up when he has already flopped at 5 or more specific positions (Including Special teams). Three things to touch on about Aaron Maybin... 1. He was like a little kid both emotionally and physically when we drafted him in 2009 (I think he was only 20 at the time) 2. He's only been in the league two years and there are many stars who took longer than that to become good or even great players. 3. We have Dave Wannstadt who knows a thing or two about what it takes to mold championship level linebackers. I've never been a fan of the Maybin pick, but I think we all need to dial the trashing back a little and give him this last year to see if he learns, grows and matures into the #1 pick he was intended to be. Aaron is one of the stars that we need to have align this year for us to go to the playoffs. Those three factors give me hope that Maybin can still turn his career around in a big way. But this is obviously his last year to prove something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Three things to touch on about Aaron Maybin... 1. He was like a little kid both emotionally and physically when we drafted him in 2009 (I think he was only 20 at the time) 2. He's only been in the league two years and there are many stars who took longer than that to become good or even great players. 3. We have Dave Wannstadt who knows a thing or two about what it takes to mold championship level linebackers. I've never been a fan of the Maybin pick, but I think we all need to dial the trashing back a little and give him this last year to see if he learns, grows and matures into the #1 pick he was intended to be. Aaron is one of the stars that we need to have align this year for us to go to the playoffs. Those three factors give me hope that Maybin can still turn his career around in a big way. But this is obviously his last year to prove something. I think you make a fair point. The NFL places a premium on physical and mental maturation unlike any other pro sport. It's obvious Maybin wasn't ready on either count. I'm not certain they'll give him the entire season. Maybe for cap considerations but I gotta believe he is on a short leash with Chan and Co. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I think you make a fair point. The NFL places a premium on physical and mental maturation unlike any other pro sport. It's obvious Maybin wasn't ready on either count. I'm not certain they'll give him the entire season. Maybe for cap considerations but I gotta believe he is on a short leash with Chan and Co. GO BILLS!!! I'm really looking forward to seeing how Maybin performs with this being his "do or die" training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 1) Trent Edwards 2) Cornell Green 3) Maybin 4) Shawn Nelson 5) Kelsay (as LB) I guess Edwards was gone so quick that some here forgot about him. He has to be #1 in my book. What about Brohm? Evans?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Maybin is the only horrible one i see being mentioned. Cornell Green, Stroud, Edwards, are not Bills. Kelsay has been an average 4-3 defensive end. Our RT position and LB position has been filled in by late scrub additions I dont think anybody expected them to be anything less then sub-par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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