Bob in STL Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) Round Pick Player Position School Grade/ Note 1 11 (11) Leodis McKelvin CB Troy University C; 4 Int, 2FF 1FR; IR2009 2 10 (41) James Hardy WR Indiana F; GW catch vs. jags- Balt camp 3 9 (72) Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech F; 13 tkl, 1sack; cut2010- Pit 4 15 (114) Reggie Corner DB Akron B+; 18pdef, 1 int, 114 tkl, slot cb 4* 33 (132) Derek Fine TE Kansas F; IR 4ever, cut- Texans 5 12 (147) Alvin Bowen OLB Iowa State F; IR knee injury, cut- Jags 6 13 (179) Xavier Omon RB NW Missouri St F; 49ers camp 7 12 (219) Demetrius Bell T NW State (La) B+; starting LT, improving 7 17 (224) Steve Johnson WR Kentucky A+; 12TDs, 1082 yds 2010 7* 44 (251) Kennard Cox DB Pittsburgh D; Sea SPteams * - Compensatory pick Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2008/draft/teams/bills.html#ixzz1L9T2hybN Overall grade C-. Missing on the 2nd & 3rd rounders is terrible, just like playoff chances since they were acquired. These players need to be core contributors, they have been jettisoned. Finding a starting(on this team) LT and the breakout season for Stevie huge for 7th round finds. McKelvin is still inexperienced or he is just lacking brainpower, as he hasn’t figured out how turn athletic potential into playmaking ability. Corner is a good find in the 4th round. I think he’s our best slot corner. Overall 3 starters on a 4-12 team is a weak draft. Injuries essentially derailed this class’s potential. Bad draft. D+ is my grade. You cannot blow the first 3 rounds like this. First rounder McKelvin is inconsistent at CB and as a return man. not a natural player. Picks 2 (Hardy) and 3 (Ellis) gave us zero production. Horrible. Pick 4 - Corner has been a good backup and a decent nickel back. Pick 4 - Fine -injured and whatever talent he had never emerged Pcik 5 - Bowen - Injured and never got a shot Pick 6 Omon - why did we pick him? Pick 7 - Bell - Great developmental pick that looks like a servicable LT, not great at run blocking but when healthy is a good pass blocker. Can improve with time Pick 7 - Johnson - Great pick. After sitting on the bench for a few years he looks to be a solid #2 WR. Pilc 7 - Cox - did nothing. Edited May 3, 2011 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) Its a B We got 3 starters (McKelvin, Johnston, Bell) and 1 reserve (corner) (but it IS a picture of what is wrong with the team for years.......finding starters late and the guys in front of them being garbage) This is what needs to change Edited May 2, 2011 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 It is always better to look at a draft as a sum of its parts rather than on a pick-by-pick basis. For example, how many 6th or 7th round players even make the final roster? Not many. Hence, to grade such a player (like Cox or Omon) with a less than passing grade is a bit misleading. It doesn't really matter to me in what rounds they were drafted. (Think any Patriots fans are complaining about misses that the Pats may have made in the first 5 rounds of their 2000 draft?) The bottom line is that the Bills came away from that draft (to date) with an up and coming play-maker at WR, a decent starter at LT, a fringe starter at CB, and a nickel CB. So the overall C- sounds about right to me. Also, does anyone know if the Bills picked up any decent UDFAs after the draft that year? They normally do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Bad draft. D+ is my grade. You cannot blow the first 3 rounds like this. No, you absolutely cannot. The 2006 draft was even much worse imo, but the good news is that Levy/Jauron are gone. I was not pleased by the first pick of 2010 nor the second pick this year. That said, Nix/Gailey are still clearly superior to those two. Imo it isn't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 EF, as in epic fail. but 7th lift it to D- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 A C- and i feel like thats really generous McKelvin is an adequate starter, Stevie and Bell have been nice. Ellis has more sacks than Maybin (1) and Corner has been a good nickel back It's better than a C-. We got 2 starters, plus 2 regular players (Corner and McLovin). That's about league average. This class get DESTROYED with freak injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 It is an F for rounds 1 - 4. After three years an "elite" CB that is barely starting on a very poor defense and another CB that only plays in the nickel. Very huge misses on 2, 3 and the second 4. It is an A+ for rounds 5 - 7. Bell and Johnson. Overall D. I think we will find the 2011 draft to be very similar when rated three years hence. Dareus should be very good. Then two out of three between, Williams Hairston & Sheppard, make it, maybe we can have an A for 1-4 and then who cares about 5-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Its a B We got 3 starters (McKelvin, Johnston, Bell) and 1 reserve (corner) Oh man, I hope you're joking; otherwise I'd have loved you for a teacher. What a disaster. McKelvin sucks for the 11th pick. Like someone else said I don't know how you can not give the Bell pick a passing grade. So what if he's a marginal starter or shouldn't be starting; most 7th rounders don't make the league. Those first few picks are just awful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Hardy was a flavor of the month pick when the league and many on this board were clamoring for a tall wr in the wake of plaxico's super bowl winning Td grab.Steelers got sweed and panthers got jarrett on the same rationale. Really none of them has worked out. Neither did Devon Thomas or Malcolm Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Here is our entire draft history. I dare someone to find a draft that they would grade at a B+ or better. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=0610&type=team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Here is our entire draft history. I dare someone to find a draft that they would grade at a B+ or better. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=0610&type=team 1985, 1987 and 1995 were very good, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 1985, 1987 and 1995 were very good, no? You're right-- 1985 and 1987 were solid B+ or A's. 1995..eh, maybe a B. 2004 to the present...that pretty much explains why we've been so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I didnt like the McKelvin pick simply because of the position he played but thought at the time he would be better then he has been hated the Hardy pick and got ripped for it on this board for saying so...my guess is he never suits up in the NFL again that is one awful draft even with Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Here is our entire draft history. I dare someone to find a draft that they would grade at a B+ or better. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=0610&type=team 1985 and I don't even have to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) Hardy was a flavor of the month pick when the league and many on this board were clamoring for a tall wr in the wake of plaxico's super bowl winning Td grab.Steelers got sweed and panthers got jarrett on the same rationale. Really none of them has worked out. DeShaun Jackson looks pretty good and he was avaiable with that pick! Three starters out of ten picks. I don't care where they were drafted. Is that better, worse, or equal to the league average? Three starters on this team does not mean they start for most other teams. My guess is only McKelvin starts for another team with a decent front 7 and Stevie is 4th WR since he doesn't play the slot WR. Edited May 3, 2011 by Dadonkadonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloha22 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 1 11 (11) Leodis McKelvin CB Troy University....B+ 2 10 (41) James Hardy WR Indiana................D- 3 9 (72) Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech...........D 4 15 (114) Reggie Corner DB Akron...............C+ 4* 33 (132) Derek Fine TE Kansas................D 5 12 (147) Alvin Bowen OLB Iowa State...........F 6 13 (179) Xavier Omon RB NW Missouri St........D- 7 12 (219) Demetrius Bell T NW State (La).......B- 7 17 (224) Steve Johnson WR Kentucky............A 7* 44 (251) Kennard Cox DB Pittsburgh...........F Overall: C- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Slightly off topic but 2008 was an interesting draft year…especially in the 2nd round. There were no wideouts selected in the first round. 1. (32) Miami - Phillip Merling, DE Clemson 2. (33) St. Louis - Donnie Avery, WR Houston 3. (34) Washington (From Raiders through Falcons) - Devin Thomas, WR Michigan State 4. (35) Kansas City - Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech5. (36) Green Bay (From Jets) - Jordy Nelson, WR Kansas State6. (37) Atlanta - Curtis Lofton, LB Oklahoma 7. (38) Seattle (From Ravens) - John Carlson, TE Notre Dame8. (39) San Francisco - Chilo Rachal, OG Southern Cal 9. (40) New Orleans - Tracy Porter, CB Indiana 10. (41) Buffalo - James Hardy, WR Indiana 11. (42) Denver - Eddie Royal, WR Virginia Tech12. (43) Minnesota (From Panthers through Eagles) - Tyrell Johnson, FS Arkansas State 13. (44) Chicago - Matt Forte, RB Tulane 14. (45) Detroit - Jordon Dizon, OLB Colorado15. (46) Cincinnati - Jerome Simpson, WR Coastal Carolina16. (47) Philadelphia (From Vikings) - Trevor Laws, DT Notre Dame17. (48) Washington (From Texans through Falcons) - Fred Davis, TE USC 18. (49) Philadelphia - DeSean Jackson, WR California 19. (50) Arizona - Calais Campbell, DE Miami 20. (51) Washington - Malcolm Kelly, WR Oklahoma 21. (52) Jacksonville (From Buccaneers) - Quentin Groves, DE Auburn22. (53) Pittsburgh - Limas Sweed, WR Texas23. (54) Tennessee - Jason Jones, DE Eastern Michigan24. (55) Baltimore (From Seahawks) - Ray Rice, RB Rutgers25. (56) Green Bay (From Browns) - Brian Brohm, QB Louisville26. (57) Miami (From Chargers) - Chad Henne, QB Michigan BTW, for you fantasy footballers, Jerome Simpson had 18 receptions for 248 yards and 3 TDs against San Diego and Baltimore to end the season. Those games were his 2nd and 3rd career starts and he played only because of injuries to T.O. and Ochocinco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I'll go pick-by-pick: This assessment rings true. Adding up the grades, it comes out approximately a D-, which sounds pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 DeShaun Jackson looks pretty good and he was avaiable with that pick! That's true, but like Joe the 6 pack mentioned earlier in this thread, there was a huge clamor for the Bills to get a a big physical receiver. Desean Jackson was seen as another Smurf, of which we were loaded at the time. Obviously, he turned out better than Lee, Roscoe (whom I really like, especially his role in the offense in 2010) or Peerless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 If Mckelvin can be a starting corner the draft is decent but if not its a bad draft if you get late round finds plus hit on your first rounder. But if you miss on all picks rounds 1-3 it van't be a good draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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