Astrobot Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I have been working overtime with DraftTek's Simulator using different philosophies I've read about on TSW. 1. Newton Mock With 4 Ensuing Defensive Selections 1 3 Buffalo Cameron Newton QB Auburn 2 34 Buffalo Justin Houston OLB34 Georgia 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Lawrence Guy DE34 Arizona State 4 121 Buffalo Marc. Gilchrist CB Clemson 5 130 Buffalo Orla. Franklin RT Miami 6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State 7 195 Buffalo Lee Smith TE Marshall COMMENT: If you are going to take Newton, make 4 defensive picks then an O-Line pick. Taking 2 TE's late. 2. Miller Mock With Huge Run Defense Emphasis, Take a Smart, Midround QB 1 3 Buffalo Von Miller OLB34 Texas A&M 2 34 Buffalo Stephen Paea DT43 Oregon State 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Pernell McPhee DE34 Mississippi State 4 121 Buffalo Kenrick Ellis DT34 Hampton 5 130 Buffalo Greg McElroy QB Alabama 6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State 7 195 Buffalo Derek Hall RT Stanford COMMENT: This would IMHO be an 'A' draft for us. You take two kinds of DT's and a DE who wreaked havoc at the Senior Bowl. McElroy isn't flashy but he's smart and with winning teams since HS. 3. Fairley Mock, Take Early QB 1 3 Buffalo Nick Fairley DT34 Auburn 2 34 Buffalo Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Lawrence Guy DE34 Arizona State 4 121 Buffalo Steven Friday OLB34 Virginia Tech 5 130 Buffalo Chykie Brown CB Texas 6 164 Buffalo Jo. Barksdale RT LSU 7 195 Buffalo R. Bartholomew OC Syracuse COMMENT: This is a risk-reward draft; I don't see Nix taking risks like this. Like local boy Bartholomew. 4. TradeDown Mock With ARIZ (for RD2 and RD4), Ariz Wants QB Choice 1 5 Buffalo Von Miller OLB34 Texas A&M 2 34 Buffalo Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas 2 38 Buffalo Mason Foster ILB Washington 3 68 Buffalo Jarvis Jenkins DE34 Clemson 4 99 Buffalo Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 4 102 Buffalo Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin 4 121 Buffalo Pierre Allen DE34 Nebraska 5 130 Buffalo Orl. Franklin RT Miami 6 164 Buffalo Ryan Winterswyk OLB34 Boise State 7 195 Buffalo Martin Parker DT43 Richmond COMMENT: Lot of players who I think will be stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Three out of four simulations have us taking K.J. Wright in the 3rd. Two out of four have us nabbing Mallet in the 2nd. My grandmother's maiden name was McElroy. Wonder if I'm related to the "smart, midround QB" in simulation #2. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) I have been working overtime with DraftTek's Simulator using different philosophies I've read about on TSW. 1. Newton Mock With 4 Ensuing Defensive Selections 1 3 Buffalo Cameron Newton QB Auburn 2 34 Buffalo Justin Houston OLB34 Georgia 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Lawrence Guy DE34 Arizona State 4 121 Buffalo Marc. Gilchrist CB Clemson 5 130 Buffalo Orla. Franklin RT Miami 6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State 7 195 Buffalo Lee Smith TE Marshall COMMENT: If you are going to take Newton, make 4 defensive picks then an O-Line pick. Taking 2 TE's late. I don't understand why so many people get enraged with the thought that taking a qb in the first round doesn't necessarily mean that some of our other defensive needs can't also be addressed with the remaining picks. Your first draft scenario demonstrates outherwise. If there is enough time left with a CBA agreement a functional TE and RT can be added to help this team move up to being respectable. The Bills are in a position to draft Gabbert/Newton. Let's do it and continue to move forward. I get the sense that Gailey prefers a mobile qb. If that is the case then if the Bills look for a qb in the second round Locker, Ponder and Kaepernick are more likely to be considered. Mallett is a special passer. He can makes throws that no other prospect can make, and that would include Luck if he came out. The problem is that you can't throw the ball very well when you are laid out on the ground writhing in pain. Edited March 20, 2011 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 i would be most pleased with draft #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I reallay like scenarios 3 and 4. To be hinest I would be happy with a strong D pick in Round 1 aand Mallet in round 2 anything else would be icing on the cake. Astrobot ... as always thanks for your analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 For the life of me, I just don't get this whole Bills drafting Von Miller thing over a true NFL stud sack crazy player in waiting Robert Quinn...Lawrence Taylor, Julius Peppers, Robert Quinn Not only does he sack the quarterback, he removes the ball from the QB's possession a lot! Please Astrobot, tell me why Von Miller is going to be better than Robert Quinn. IMO Quinn's game transitions, Miller's doesn't. Quinn Quote... “I don't really compare,” he said. “But people always tell me I'm ready to be the next Julius Peppers or DeMarcus Ware(notes). I always tell them, 'Why do I need to be the second of somebody else? Why can't I be the first Robert Quinn?' But I guess being compared to them two ain't so bad.” Sounds like a guy who's confident he's going to be something special. It doesn't sound boastful, it sounds inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Any scenario with a trade down within the top 10 should be best case scenario. I'm not a fan of mallet, solely due to his lack of manuverability in the pocket, and our not so great oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 For the life of me, I just don't get this whole Bills drafting Von Miller thing over a true NFL stud sack crazy player in waiting Robert Quinn...Lawrence Taylor, Julius Peppers, Robert Quinn Not only does he sack the quarterback, he removes the ball from the QB's possession a lot! Please Astrobot, tell me why Von Miller is going to be better than Robert Quinn. IMO Quinn's game transitions, Miller's doesn't. Quinn Quote... “I don't really compare,” he said. “But people always tell me I'm ready to be the next Julius Peppers or DeMarcus Ware(notes). I always tell them, 'Why do I need to be the second of somebody else? Why can't I be the first Robert Quinn?' But I guess being compared to them two ain't so bad.” Sounds like a guy who's confident he's going to be something special. It doesn't sound boastful, it sounds inevitable. Quinn will be amazing, if he plays Duke every Sunday. Ba-dum-tish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 For the life of me, I just don't get this whole Bills drafting Von Miller thing over a true NFL stud sack crazy player in waiting Robert Quinn...Lawrence Taylor, Julius Peppers, Robert Quinn Not only does he sack the quarterback, he removes the ball from the QB's possession a lot! Please Astrobot, tell me why Von Miller is going to be better than Robert Quinn. IMO Quinn's game transitions, Miller's doesn't. Quinn Quote... “I don't really compare,” he said. “But people always tell me I'm ready to be the next Julius Peppers or DeMarcus Ware(notes). I always tell them, 'Why do I need to be the second of somebody else? Why can't I be the first Robert Quinn?' But I guess being compared to them two ain't so bad.” Sounds like a guy who's confident he's going to be something special. It doesn't sound boastful, it sounds inevitable. No one knows anything til they play in the nfl. It's all speculation at this point. Miller haters say he's too small. Quinn haters say he's only produces against bad teams. Will millers size and speed hold up? Will Quinn be able to be effective against NFL o lineman? Hopefully we make the right choice, but right now, no one knows jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 4. TradeDown Mock With ARIZ (for RD2 and RD4), Ariz Wants QB Choice- get serious defense draft. 1. Car, Newton 2. Den, Bowers 3. ARI Gabbert 4. Cin, Peterson 5. BUF Dareus 7. Buf, Dareus Bills draft 1. Dareus DE/NT/DT 2a Cameron Heyward DE 2b Brooks Reed OLB 3. K.J. Wright ILB 4a Edmund Gates WR 4b Chimdi Chekwa CB 4c Mario Harvey ILB 5. Joseph Barksdale ROT 6. Mario Fannin RB/FB 7. Da'Rel Scott RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I have been working overtime with DraftTek's Simulator using different philosophies I've read about on TSW. 1. Newton Mock With 4 Ensuing Defensive Selections 1 3 Buffalo Cameron Newton QB Auburn 2 34 Buffalo Justin Houston OLB34 Georgia 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Lawrence Guy DE34 Arizona State 4 121 Buffalo Marc. Gilchrist CB Clemson 5 130 Buffalo Orla. Franklin RT Miami 6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State 7 195 Buffalo Lee Smith TE Marshall COMMENT: If you are going to take Newton, make 4 defensive picks then an O-Line pick. Taking 2 TE's late. 2. Miller Mock With Huge Run Defense Emphasis, Take a Smart, Midround QB 1 3 Buffalo Von Miller OLB34 Texas A&M 2 34 Buffalo Stephen Paea DT43 Oregon State 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Pernell McPhee DE34 Mississippi State 4 121 Buffalo Kenrick Ellis DT34 Hampton 5 130 Buffalo Greg McElroy QB Alabama 6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State 7 195 Buffalo Derek Hall RT Stanford COMMENT: This would IMHO be an 'A' draft for us. You take two kinds of DT's and a DE who wreaked havoc at the Senior Bowl. McElroy isn't flashy but he's smart and with winning teams since HS. 3. Fairley Mock, Take Early QB 1 3 Buffalo Nick Fairley DT34 Auburn 2 34 Buffalo Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Lawrence Guy DE34 Arizona State 4 121 Buffalo Steven Friday OLB34 Virginia Tech 5 130 Buffalo Chykie Brown CB Texas 6 164 Buffalo Jo. Barksdale RT LSU 7 195 Buffalo R. Bartholomew OC Syracuse COMMENT: This is a risk-reward draft; I don't see Nix taking risks like this. Like local boy Bartholomew. 4. TradeDown Mock With ARIZ (for RD2 and RD4), Ariz Wants QB Choice 1 5 Buffalo Von Miller OLB34 Texas A&M 2 34 Buffalo Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas 2 38 Buffalo Mason Foster ILB Washington 3 68 Buffalo Jarvis Jenkins DE34 Clemson 4 99 Buffalo Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 4 102 Buffalo Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin 4 121 Buffalo Pierre Allen DE34 Nebraska 5 130 Buffalo Orl. Franklin RT Miami 6 164 Buffalo Ryan Winterswyk OLB34 Boise State 7 195 Buffalo Martin Parker DT43 Richmond COMMENT: Lot of players who I think will be stars. I am not a Von Miller guy. I love the Von Miller draft, I think it's mostly for the trade down part. Mason Foster is a Buddy Nix kinda guy, 4 year player that was a team captain and Lance Kendrick's is a Possible fix for the TE. Von Miller and Poz on the inside with A healthy Merriman and Moats on the outside is a nice LB grouping. Then Mason Foster Coming in for the inevitable broken arm and Andre Davis. Or if somehow Miller can keep on the weight. A healthy merman Poz mason foster Miller. Then Moats and Andre Davis for rotation and reserve. Or if Merriman is most likely not healthy and if somehow Miller can play outside. Miller Foster Poz Moats And Davis For reserve and rotation. Either way a 3-4 team with LB depth is what we need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 4 99 Buffalo Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State Anyone else feel a chill when they read that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Quinn will be amazing, if he plays Duke every Sunday. Ba-dum-tish Oh please... Quinn vs Castonzo Crushes QB and forces a fumble on the second play, breaks up and almost intercepts a screen pass, on the last play he gets double teamed and still gets to the QB who throws a desperate pass which gets interception and returned to the 1 yard line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqJrjwjf55c Ba-dum-tish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Three out of four simulations have us taking K.J. Wright in the 3rd. Two out of four have us nabbing Mallet in the 2nd. My grandmother's maiden name was McElroy. Wonder if I'm related to the "smart, midround QB" in simulation #2. ???? You aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 2. Miller Mock With Huge Run Defense Emphasis, Take a Smart, Midround QB 1 3 Buffalo Von Miller OLB34 Texas A&M 2 34 Buffalo Stephen Paea DT43 Oregon State 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Pernell McPhee DE34 Mississippi State 4 121 Buffalo Kenrick Ellis DT34 Hampton 5 130 Buffalo Greg McElroy QB Alabama 6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State 7 195 Buffalo Derek Hall RT Stanford COMMENT: This would IMHO be an 'A' draft for us. You take two kinds of DT's and a DE who wreaked havoc at the Senior Bowl. McElroy isn't flashy but he's smart and with winning teams since HS. I like this draft the best. Not a huge fan of Von Miller (I'd rather have Quinn), but I like the emphasis on run defense. Given that we are likely to use multiple defensive fronts, I like the diversity of D-Line talent in this draft. I think Kendrick Ellis is going to be a beastly NT. McElroy does not upgrade our QB position, but he provides a decent backup QB who is smart enough to quickly learn the playbook and could be a decent "game managing" QB if Fitz got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I have been working overtime with DraftTek's Simulator using different philosophies I've read about on TSW. 1. Newton Mock With 4 Ensuing Defensive Selections 1 3 Buffalo Cameron Newton QB Auburn 2 34 Buffalo Justin Houston OLB34 Georgia 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Lawrence Guy DE34 Arizona State 4 121 Buffalo Marc. Gilchrist CB Clemson 5 130 Buffalo Orla. Franklin RT Miami 6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State 7 195 Buffalo Lee Smith TE Marshall COMMENT: If you are going to take Newton, make 4 defensive picks then an O-Line pick. Taking 2 TE's late. 2. Miller Mock With Huge Run Defense Emphasis, Take a Smart, Midround QB 1 3 Buffalo Von Miller OLB34 Texas A&M 2 34 Buffalo Stephen Paea DT43 Oregon State 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Pernell McPhee DE34 Mississippi State 4 121 Buffalo Kenrick Ellis DT34 Hampton 5 130 Buffalo Greg McElroy QB Alabama 6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State 7 195 Buffalo Derek Hall RT Stanford COMMENT: This would IMHO be an 'A' draft for us. You take two kinds of DT's and a DE who wreaked havoc at the Senior Bowl. McElroy isn't flashy but he's smart and with winning teams since HS. 3. Fairley Mock, Take Early QB 1 3 Buffalo Nick Fairley DT34 Auburn 2 34 Buffalo Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Lawrence Guy DE34 Arizona State 4 121 Buffalo Steven Friday OLB34 Virginia Tech 5 130 Buffalo Chykie Brown CB Texas 6 164 Buffalo Jo. Barksdale RT LSU 7 195 Buffalo R. Bartholomew OC Syracuse COMMENT: This is a risk-reward draft; I don't see Nix taking risks like this. Like local boy Bartholomew. 4. TradeDown Mock With ARIZ (for RD2 and RD4), Ariz Wants QB Choice 1 5 Buffalo Von Miller OLB34 Texas A&M 2 34 Buffalo Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas 2 38 Buffalo Mason Foster ILB Washington 3 68 Buffalo Jarvis Jenkins DE34 Clemson 4 99 Buffalo Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 4 102 Buffalo Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin 4 121 Buffalo Pierre Allen DE34 Nebraska 5 130 Buffalo Orl. Franklin RT Miami 6 164 Buffalo Ryan Winterswyk OLB34 Boise State 7 195 Buffalo Martin Parker DT43 Richmond COMMENT: Lot of players who I think will be stars. No Gabbert Mock, what's up Astro?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Just no Quinn, Miller or Newton and I will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 No Gabbert Mock, what's up Astro?! LOL! At your request: 1 3 Buffalo Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri 2 34 Buffalo Justin Houston OLB34 Georgia 3 68 Buffalo K.J. Wright ILB Mississippi State 4 99 Buffalo Lawrence Guy DE34 Arizona State 4 121 Buffalo Marcus Gilchrist CB Clemson 5 130 Buffalo Orlando Franklin OT Miami (FL) 6 164 Buffalo Charlie Gantt TE Michigan State 7 195 Buffalo Kristofer O'Dowd OC USC Pretty much a rehash of the Newton draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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