PromoTheRobot Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Chris Brown Don't forget to vote early and often. I'm surprised Fitz is doing better than Kyle Williams and Steve Johnson but all three deserve consideration. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPicc2114 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 No Kyle Williams in the pro bowl is a travesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 At about game 4 this year I started a topic of potential pro bowlers. I'd like to point that Fitz, Johnson, and Williams were all on my list and most ppl on this board thought I was high on peyote at the time. The year ain't over, there will be some suprises, I'm just putting it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I hate the Bills ! Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I ve been voting for Wood, and Williams for the Pro Bowl ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Well, Fitzpatrick is currently the 10th highest rated QB in the AFC, so it seems pretty cheesy to vote for him. Williams (particularly) and Johnson deserve some attention though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 If 2 of Rivers, Manning, or Brady get hurt, go to the Super Bowl, or just don't feel like playing - we'll have a Pro Bowl QB : How far have the Bills fallen so that us fans are excited about our QB being 2nd alternate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 If 2 of Rivers, Manning, or Brady get hurt, go to the Super Bowl, or just don't feel like playing - we'll have a Pro Bowl QB : How far have the Bills fallen so that us fans are excited about our QB being 2nd alternate Wow you were able to do the "We have a Pro Bowl QB!" and "Being a Pro Bowl QB is not important he was actually #5 not #3 on the Pro Bowl voting so it doesn't count." In the same post. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffmonster Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) Well, Fitzpatrick is currently the 10th highest rated QB in the AFC, so it seems pretty cheesy to vote for him. Williams (particularly) and Johnson deserve some attention though. Yes because statistics are the black and white end all. By your logic Whitner and the Poz should make the probowl because they are sharing the #4 rank in tackles over KW because he is ranked 75. Edited December 9, 2010 by Brimley's Stache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthtobrint Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Yes because statistics are the black and white end all. By your logic Whitner and the Poz should make the probowl because they are sharing the #4 rank in tackles over KW because he is ranked 75. Passer rating is a compilation of every passing statistic. With a large enough sample size, it's an accurate depiction of how well a quarterback has played. Tackling is only one aspect of defense. Accumulating large quantities of tackles is mostly due to opportunity. The tackles statistic should really be changed to tackles per opposing offensive play that doesn't result in a penalty or incomplete pass. Kyle Williams definitely deserves to be in the Pro Bowl. Fitzpatrick and Stevie do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Our record is 2-10, I couldn't care less if we get a player into the Pro-Bowl. I want wins, I want playoffs. Not an exhibition game. But... it is encouraging to see a couple of our guys getting attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I voted for Fitz. He's definitely better than Sanchizzle. How on god's green earth is Sanchez number 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 The truth is, we only have one player on this team that is really playing up to Pro Bowl caliber, and that is Kyle Williams. We do have a good chance of having a few other players go to Hawaii though. My guess is Fitz will end up going since, for one, one of the quarterbacks that are clearly superior to him (Brady, Rothlisberger, Manning, Flacco) will end up in the Super Bowl so he won't play. Same situation goes for receiver, so Stevie "Stone Hands" has a decent chance too. Of course you will always have the several players voted in who have "injuries" and cancel out, which would again give our guys a better shot. I think Williams best shot at starting in the Pro Bowl is if the Ravens make it to the Super Bowl so Ngata can't play in the game. Other than those three, I would say maybe Florence and Jackson might be long shots as replacements, after two or three others have said "no." I voted for Fitz. He's definitely better than Sanchizzle. How on god's green earth is Sanchez number 4? Because he is on a team that is 9-3 not 2-10 for one. Also he has played in prime time and marquee games, where you don't see Fitz play unless you are a Bills fan and have the Sunday Ticket (like myself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) Anyone who would vote for Fitz for pro bowl should be ashamed of themselves. There is nothing unusual about favoring a home town player but when comparing Fitz to legitimate all-pro candidate qbs it is a not only a perversion of the voting process it is also an abuse of the process. Fitz is simply a mediocre starting qb. He is a capable backup qb who can have a long career because of his utility. He fits the Kitna model. There is no doubt that Fitz is a major qb upgrade from the prior qbs. That is not a statement of an endorsement of him so much as a condemnation of the other mediocre qbs he has followed. I have read postings on this board that Fitz should be compared to Drew Brees. That is an absurdity that can develop into lunacy. Let's stop with the juvenile mentality that our players are better than what they really are simply because of the uniforms they wear. The Bills consistenly lose not because they have many good players on the roster, they lose because they hardly have any good andimpactful players on its roster. If you don't understand why the Bills are 2-10 then I have a simple recommendation: Watch the bloody games without the rose tinted glasses. Can we stop with this foolishness. Edited December 9, 2010 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 If you don't understand why the Bills are 2-10 then I have a simple recommendation: Watch the bloody games without the rose tinted glasses. Can we stop with this foolishness. You should follow your own advice then. It's obvious you don't watch, or if you do you're passed-out drunk. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Anyone who would vote for Fitz for pro bowl should be ashamed of themselves. There is nothing unusual about favoring a home town player but when comparing Fitz to legitimate all-pro candidate qbs it is a not only a perversion of the voting process it is also an abuse of the process. Fitz is simply a mediocre starting qb. He is a capable backup qb who can have a long career because of his utility. He fits the Kitna model. There is no doubt that Fitz is a major qb upgrade from the prior qbs. That is not a statement of an endorsement of him so much as a condemnation of the other mediocre qbs he has followed. I have read postings on this board that Fitz should be compared to Drew Brees. That is an absurdity that can develop into lunacy. Let's stop with the juvenile mentality that our players are better than what they really are simply because of the uniforms they wear. The Bills consistenly lose not because they have many good players on the roster, they lose because they hardly have any good andimpactful players on its roster. If you don't understand why the Bills are 2-10 then I have a simple recommendation: Watch the bloody games without the rose tinted glasses. Can we stop with this foolishness. Just because a team isn't good doesn't mean that there aren't good players on the team. Fitz has thrown 20 TD passes in 10 starts. Mediocre QBs don't throw 2 TD passes per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineMoxie Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I voted for a bunch. I mean, what the hell. It's all a popularity contest anyway and I'd rather have the NFL think there are a lot of people out there who are rabid Bills fans willing to vote for mediocre players. So I voted for (and don't necessarily think they're all mediocre): Fitz, Stevie, Williams, Poz, Whitner (I know, I know, what was I thinking?), and Drayton Florence (yes, based on essentially two good games). And I'm voting often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 You should follow your own advice then. It's obvious you don't watch, or if you do you're passed-out drunk. PTR I do watch the games in a very sober state. That is why I am confident in my position. The Bills will be fortunate to win more than 3 games this year. You find that to be very encouraging to their near future prospects. It is obvious my standards and yours vary a great deal. Accepting mediocrity will only get you more mediocrity. Just because a team isn't good doesn't mean that there aren't good players on the team. It certainly means that there aren't enough good players to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjl4sam Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 You can keep quoting the record all you want. Anyone who has watched this team over the last 4 years knows this team is in a much better position heading into next season than it ever was going into an offseason during the Jauron era. I, for one, am encouraged for their near futue prospects by the way they have been competing. For a rebuilding team, that's more important than raw win totals. I do watch the games in a very sober state. That is why I am confident in my position. The Bills will be fortunate to win more than 3 games this year. You find that to be very encouraging to their near future prospects. It is obvious my standards and yours vary a great deal. Accepting mediocrity will only get you more mediocrity. It certainly means that there aren't enough good players to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 as much as i love the team and our players, part of me wants to vote for other players so we dont get stuck with a Peters-esque "I made the ProBowl so Im holding out" situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikef272002 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I voted; Fitz Johnson Levitre Wood Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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