bartshan-83 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings?year=2010&week=0 The Bills ranking is unimportant (#31, need a new QB blah blah blah), but what is this mess: Jets - #7- With 12 Pro Bowl position players, the Jets are loaded to challenge the Pats. (Clayton) Patriots - #9 - Who keeps the Patriots ahead of every other AFC East team? Tom Brady. (Clayton) Clayton, your whole assignment here is to write 1 sentence each about 8 teams. And the only rule is don't contradict yourself. Good work, ESPN. Get back to giving LeBron an hour to talk about himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Maybe he had the cheaters at #6 but because they still have Tom Terrific he dropped them 3 places. Or ... he has them at #9 and thinks they will cheat themselves to #6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebe's Kid Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 !@#$ Gazoo! We have nowhere to go but up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightClub Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 These rankings are just flat out silly this year. The Bills have been a near .500 team for years, and have a new coaching staff that is worth a game or two extra. So, 7-9, 8-8 is most likely. I know we're not a playoff team, but all of these pundits putting us at 30 or below in a 32 team league?? Boy, the hate is really out there. The unfortunate thing is these guys never have to admit how wrong they are on this kind of stuff. I was talking to a Packers fan this morning and even he thought the Bills would be a middle of the pack team, and he cares nothing about them, so to me this is not a hometown opinion, the media just has some big-time hate for the Bills going on right now. I don't really care, but boy, it's eye-opening to see this kind of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Three words: locker room material. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Why that fat over officious jerk aughta be publicly flogged. oh, wait, wrong thread Why that pencil necked pony tailed bird beak freak aughta be publicly flogged. (that was bad even for Clayton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The good news is that IF the Bills are this bad, St. Louis, Tampa, and Detroit already have QBs of the future so maybe we can finally get one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Pile it on, guys. 31 out of 32 teams? Great. A drop of 7 spots from the end of last season? I like it. None of this will matter when the games begin. It will be a pleasure to see the Bills surprise some teams and their fans. Assuming they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 if youre ranked 31 of 32 arent you by definition likely to surprise some teams? woe be to those four teams that get surprised this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings?year=2010&week=0 The Bills ranking is unimportant (#31, need a new QB blah blah blah), but what is this mess: Clayton, your whole assignment here is to write 1 sentence each about 8 teams. And the only rule is don't contradict yourself. Good work, ESPN. Get back to giving LeBron an hour to talk about himself. Actually it looks like Clayton wrote the one liners for the Jets and Pats (and thought the Jets would challenge the Pats for the division) but he alone did not rank the teams. In other words, the one-liners are Clayton's, the ranking is not. EDIT: At the bottom of that page: The rankings were determined by a poll of four voters on ESPN.com's NFL staff: writers John Clayton (AFC East, NFC East), James Walker (AFC North, NFC North), Paul Kuharsky (AFC South, AFC West), and Mike Sando (NFC South, NFC West). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 These rankings are just flat out silly this year. The Bills have been a near .500 team for years, and have a new coaching staff that is worth a game or two extra. So, 7-9, 8-8 is most likely. I know we're not a playoff team, but all of these pundits putting us at 30 or below in a 32 team league?? Boy, the hate is really out there. The unfortunate thing is these guys never have to admit how wrong they are on this kind of stuff. I was talking to a Packers fan this morning and even he thought the Bills would be a middle of the pack team, and he cares nothing about them, so to me this is not a hometown opinion, the media just has some big-time hate for the Bills going on right now. I don't really care, but boy, it's eye-opening to see this kind of crap. I couldn't agree more. I love how we are this year's whipping boy. We are a team that needed a perfect storm to fall from 7-9 to 6-10. Now somehow getting to 6-10 would be a miracle? But the reality is none of these guys can really follow and understand all the teams, and it is easy to focus on "no QB, no LT, no playoffs in a decade" rather than actual analysis. So somehow they place us in a position to win 2-3 games for the season and despite our young players, positive new coaching staff, etc., we should be the worst Bills team since we drafted Bruce Smith if not worse. If John Clayton will put some cash on the table I will take the over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWearPajamas Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Three words: locker room material. PTR Too bad the Bills are powerless to do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Actually it looks like Clayton wrote the one liners for the Jets and Pats (and thought the Jets would challenge the Pats for the division) but he alone did not rank the teams. In other words, the one-liners are Clayton's, the ranking is not. EDIT: At the bottom of that page: we still hates him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatpantsjoe Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 personally I think they ranked the Bills too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theranter Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Why that fat over officious jerk aughta be publicly flogged. oh, wait, wrong thread Why that pencil necked pony tailed bird beak freak aughta be publicly flogged. (that was bad even for Clayton) pretty-funny, I laughed reading that the 1st time on the other thread..... GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 These rankings are just flat out silly this year. The Bills have been a near .500 team for years, and have a new coaching staff that is worth a game or two extra. So, 7-9, 8-8 is most likely. I know we're not a playoff team, but all of these pundits putting us at 30 or below in a 32 team league?? Boy, the hate is really out there. The unfortunate thing is these guys never have to admit how wrong they are on this kind of stuff. I was talking to a Packers fan this morning and even he thought the Bills would be a middle of the pack team, and he cares nothing about them, so to me this is not a hometown opinion, the media just has some big-time hate for the Bills going on right now. I don't really care, but boy, it's eye-opening to see this kind of crap. Near .500? That's rich. 32-48 in their past 5 seasons and 27-37 since DJ was hired isn't near .500 Besides, anecdotal evidence does not support where teams will fall, Every year, a team or two surprise and some fall off the table. Teams in their first year of a rebuild typically do not win much, especially those that don't have a strong starter at QB, are weak at OT, have no proven pass rushers, are implementing new offensive and defensive schemes (the latter of which does not have the right personnel), and play in a very tough division where their opponents are better on paper. This is a 5-11 team from a year ago, and one that will be led by a HC who hasn't done the job in 11 years. That's why people are picking them to be near the bottom of the NFL. No one's saying some things won't work out, just that there about 10 things that must go right to even be a .500 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Actually it looks like Clayton wrote the one liners for the Jets and Pats (and thought the Jets would challenge the Pats for the division) but he alone did not rank the teams. In other words, the one-liners are Clayton's, the ranking is not. EDIT: At the bottom of that page: Shhhhh too much facts for the OP. I saw the original post and link, and just had to laugh my ass off at the generally stupidity of the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Too bad the Bills are powerless to do anything about it. They are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Near .500? That's rich. 32-48 in their past 5 seasons and 27-37 since DJ was hired isn't near .500 Besides, anecdotal evidence does not support where teams will fall, Every year, a team or two surprise and some fall off the table. Teams in their first year of a rebuild typically do not win much, especially those that don't have a strong starter at QB, are weak at OT, have no proven pass rushers, are implementing new offensive and defensive schemes (the latter of which does not have the right personnel), and play in a very tough division where their opponents are better on paper. This is a 5-11 team from a year ago, and one that will be led by a HC who hasn't done the job in 11 years. That's why people are picking them to be near the bottom of the NFL. No one's saying some things won't work out, just that there about 10 things that must go right to even be a .500 team. Come on BillsVet... if the Bills won 5 more games over the last 4 years (that's 1.25 games a year), they would have been .500 for 4 years straight. So, don't make it sound like FightClub is crazy. 7-9 IS close to .500. It's depressing that we are talking about being close to .500, but nevertheless it's not an outrageous statement. And you make it sound like Chan has not been around football at all for 11 years. Sure it's been that long since he was a head coach in the NFL, but he has been an offensive coordinator since then in the NFL and he was a head coach as recently as 2007 (at Georgia). Plus, we were 6-10 last year, not 5-11. I'm not denying the questions that you and we have all raised (QB, LT, OLB, new schemes, pass rush), but don't try to purposely paint the picture darker than it is. And as far as ESPN and anyone who agrees with that ranking, over the last 10 years the 31st place teams have averaged 2.9 wins a season. I just can't see how we will fall to only 3 wins with basically the same players now healthy and with more experience (+ rookies and FAs) but better coaching. Yes, we have a lot of question marks including the coaching (because we haven't seen any games yet), but are we really going to lose 3 or 4 more games than last year with that mess of a season we had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPhan Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings?year=2010&week=0 The Bills ranking is unimportant (#31, need a new QB blah blah blah), but what is this mess: Clayton, your whole assignment here is to write 1 sentence each about 8 teams. And the only rule is don't contradict yourself. Good work, ESPN. Get back to giving LeBron an hour to talk about himself. Preseason Power Rankings are nothing more then guesses based almost exclusively on the previous seasons' results. I found a preseason Power Rankings printed in August of 2009, and of the top 12 teams listed, every one of them had made the playoffs in '08 except New England, who finished out of the playoffs amazingly with an 11-5-0 record. The poll thought very highly of the Pats despite that bad luck, and had them ranked number 2 heading into the 2009 preseason. Actual '09 results: Only 5 of the top 12 teams were able to finish higher then their "Power Rankings" had them rated in the '09 preseason, and another 5 of the top 12 teams did not even make the playoffs altogether. Take a closer look at ESPN's preseason Power Rankings in the link of this thread. This year, 10 of the top 12 ranked teams made the playoffs last season, in '09. Atlanta and San Francisco are the two teams ESPN thinks will finish in the tournament this season after missing last year, while Arizona and Philly are predicted to miss out. Odds are, up to 5 or more teams ranked in the top 12 won't make the playoffs again, with more then just 2 surprises making it back into the playoffs. And of course we all "hope" the biggest surprise will be their #31 ranked team sneaking in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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