bisonbrigade Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 He is going to be an outstanding NFL QB. Clausen sucks, McCoy is medicore at best. Everyone else in the draft is a joke. Campbell from Washington is garbage also. So you can look forward to another year of Trent Edwards and another decade of 7-9 football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 He is going to be an outstanding NFL QB. Clausen sucks, McCoy is medicore at best. Everyone else in the draft is a joke. Campbell from Washington is garbage also. So you can look forward to another year of Trent Edwards and another decade of 7-9 football. you're an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 He is going to be an outstanding NFL QB. Clausen sucks, McCoy is medicore at best. Everyone else in the draft is a joke. Campbell from Washington is garbage also. agreed with this first part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 He is going to be an outstanding NFL QB. Clausen sucks, McCoy is medicore at best. Everyone else in the draft is a joke. Campbell from Washington is garbage also. So you can look forward to another year of Trent Edwards and another decade of 7-9 football. Do you really believe that Tebow would be a starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 you're an idiot +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Do you really believe that Tebow would be a starter? Why did the Broncos trade almost their entire draft for a QB when they already dealt for Brady Quinn? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin1119 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 you're an idiot +2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin1119 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I think its a very stupid move by denver to draft an QB. when they already have 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Do you really believe that Tebow would be a starter? do you mean WILL be a starter? yes i do. maybe not right away. in an ideal situation, not for a year or two. but i think he will be a good qb. only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 read this, OP: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/1...t_photo_content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I think its a very stupid move by denver to draft an QB. when they already have 2 Nothing Denver has done his offseason has made any sense to me. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in CA Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 He is going to be an outstanding NFL QB. Clausen sucks, McCoy is medicore at best. Everyone else in the draft is a joke. Campbell from Washington is garbage also. So you can look forward to another year of Trent Edwards and another decade of 7-9 football. Why do you give a **** at this point? Good for Tebow, he was a first round pick. It's not like the Bills slighted him by not drafting him #9 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 read this, OP: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/1...t_photo_content what is that "article"? other than another pissy post on a message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 read this, OP: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/1...t_photo_content Gotta agree with Prisco on this one....Idiotic move by McDaniels....He saved the Bills butt on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 read this, OP: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/1...t_photo_content To bad this guy is going to eat his words in two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Gotta agree with Prisco on this one....Idiotic move by McDaniels....He saved the Bills butt on this one. i DO agree it was a stupid move by the Broncos considering they have 2 young QBs. No team that has 2 decent players at a position should pick a 3rd when they have so many other needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 He is going to be an outstanding NFL QB. Clausen sucks, McCoy is medicore at best. Everyone else in the draft is a joke. Campbell from Washington is garbage also. So you can look forward to another year of Trent Edwards and another decade of 7-9 football. Sounds like you have a man-crush on St. Timbo. From my chair, Denver's FO is going crackerdogs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 i DO agree it was a stupid move by the Broncos considering they have 2 young QBs. No team that has 2 decent players at a position should pick a 3rd when they have so many other needs. Ummm, hold on, that could be the Bills your talking about.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Ummm, hold on, that could be the Bills your talking about.......... thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 This is just McDaniels wanting to put HIS stamp on HIS team. He has been making a lot of "my way or the highway" type deals and while I admire his guts, I don't think they are heading in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 i DO agree it was a stupid move by the Broncos considering they have 2 young QBs. No team that has 2 decent players at a position should pick a 3rd when they have so many other needs. Would you have been ok with the Bills taking Tebow over Spiller at 9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLflutie7 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Nothing Denver has done his offseason has made any sense to me. PTR Me neither and I don't like the pick of Tebow but I'll support it for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Ummm, hold on, that could be the Bills your talking about.......... The major difference is that Denver paid a very heavy price for a real REACH in Tebow and the Bills did not with the BPA. Spiller will make an immediate contribution this season and Tebow may never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 He is going to be an outstanding NFL QB. Clausen sucks, McCoy is medicore at best. Everyone else in the draft is a joke. Campbell from Washington is garbage also. So you can look forward to another year of Trent Edwards and another decade of 7-9 football. I know Tebow's a leader and a winner,but there are SERIOUS doubts about whether this guy can be an effective NFL QB. Have you watched any of his college career???? The offense he ran at Florida in no way resembles an NFL offense,and the guy has mechanical flaws in his throwing motion that may make him totally ineffective in the NFL. He's FAR from a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Would you have been ok with the Bills taking Tebow over Spiller at 9? ive said that before in discussions about the draft. but after it's said and done, i do like the spiller pick. and i DO think the Broncos made a ridiculous pick. but not because i think Tebow sucks. i just think that Spiller is more of a sure thing, RB is obviously easier to come in and make an immediate impact. Tebow is a project that I think will succeed, but in time. The Bills are in a situation where they need to add a top talent right away. especially when you are picking at 9 vs 25. to answer your question, i may have been "OK" with it. but i probably wouldnt have given the Spiller alternative much thought then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawchukBills Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 you're an idiot Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic_soulja Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Spiller's TD throws had more spiral than Tebow...we could put Spiller at QB and we'd have a better raw QB than Tebow heheheh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 i DO agree it was a stupid move by the Broncos considering they have 2 young QBs. No team that has 2 decent players at a position should pick a 3rd when they have so many other needs. Jackson Lynch Spiller oh my!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 He is going to be an outstanding NFL QB. Clausen sucks, McCoy is medicore at best. Everyone else in the draft is a joke. Campbell from Washington is garbage also. So you can look forward to another year of Trent Edwards and another decade of 7-9 football. I guess you are right and most talent evaluators are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Ummm, hold on, that could be the Bills your talking about.......... The major difference there is that you have 3 or 4 plays to get 10 yards. One QB is designated to take all of these snaps. However, you can go change of pace with your backs and play three of them in one set of downs. If I am a Broncos fan, I am wondering why they bothered going in the direction of Tebow when they have Orton and Brady, both relatively young QB's with upsides themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Jackson Lynch Spiller oh my!!! no kidding, my first post was just a setup to the Bills comparison. glad you guys got it. but we do need a playmaker and Spiller is a much more sure thing. big difference between picking at 9 and picking at 25 too. see my last post in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I guess you are right and most talent evaluators are wrong not most, just a bunch of talking head "experts" that arent even good enough to get a real job in the NFL. the PROFESSIONALS picked him as a first round talent. so much so that two teams were fighting for him. and everyone on the ESPN panel who has played or coached as a PROFESSIONAL, agrees. the only one who didnt like it was Kiper, who had him in the 3rd round. guess what? KIPER was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 you're an idiot +3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 not most, just a bunch of talking head "experts" that arent even good enough to get a real job in the NFL. the PROFESSIONALS picked him as a first round talent. so much so that two teams were fighting for him. and everyone on the ESPN panel who has played or coached as a PROFESSIONAL, agrees. the only one who didnt like it was Kiper, who had him in the 3rd round. guess what? KIPER was wrong. That has yet to be proven. One thing that is proven is that no athlete in any draft that I can remember has been as polarizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 That has yet to be proven. One thing that is proven is that no athlete in any draft that I can remember has been as polarizing. what has yet to be proven? im not arguing that he is DEFINITELY going to be a hall of famer. we were talking about evaluating the value of someone's talent. obviously, those evaluators that actually matter rated him as first round talent. that is all we know now. but at least we know something. all of the opinions previous to the draft dont matter. he was picked in the first. whether he can live up to it is another story. but that is the case for every player picked in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 I guess you are right and most talent evaluators are wrong Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 what has yet to be proven? im not arguing that he is DEFINITELY going to be a hall of famer. we were talking about evaluating the value of someone's talent. obviously, those evaluators that actually matter rated him as first round talent. that is all we know now. but at least we know something. all of the opinions previous to the draft dont matter. he was picked in the first. whether he can live up to it is another story. but that is the case for every player picked in the first round. What has yet to be proven is that he is a first round talent. Ryan Leaf was picked first overall, but I wouldn't consider him a first round talent. First round pick, but UDFA talent. Kiper was wrong in saying he would get picked in the third, but he may have been right stating that he was most worth the risk in the third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 What has yet to be proven is that he is a first round talent. Ryan Leaf was picked first overall, but I wouldn't consider him a first round talent. First round pick, but UDFA talent. Kiper was wrong in saying he would get picked in the third, but he may have been right stating that he was most worth the risk in the third round. right, he needs to prove himself, just like every other draft pick. we're all just guessing at this point. except the evaluators (guessers) whose opinions matter, happen to agree that Tebow should be a first round talent. it doesnt mean anything really, except that the professionals have a much higher opinion of him than the talking heads. the problem is that people take the opinions (guesses) of the talking heads to be gospel, instead of just letting it all play out. it's like having a strong opinion of what the weather is going to be like next week. you can agree with some people you saw talking about weather. while the weathermen with all the fancy equipment agree with us. maybe we'll all be wrong. but you cant say for sure the kid ISNT a first round talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Man Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I don't hate the man. I see quite a bit of potential in him, probably more than most. I just wouldn't spend a 1st on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I think its a very stupid move by denver to draft an QB. when they already have 2 oh the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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