Senator Offers Bill to End Earmarks, Balance Budget

[Alaska Darin]

South Carolina Senator Offers Real "Change".

 

The President campaigned on ending earmarks, then promptly signed a bill with over 9000 of them.

 

I wonder how may co-sponsors this bill will end up with. I don't wonder if it will pass because the "fiscally conscious" legislators in both the Republican and Democratic parties would NEVER allow it.

[Magox]

South Carolina Senator Offers Real "Change".

 

The President campaigned on ending earmarks, then promptly signed a bill with over 9000 of them.

 

I wonder how may co-sponsors this bill will end up with. I don't wonder if it will pass because the "fiscally conscious" legislators in both the Republican and Democratic parties would NEVER allow it.

Too bad it will never pass.

[IDBillzFan]

I've discussed DeMint before, and I truly like him. His book, "Saving Freedom," was very interesting to me as he documented his wide-eyed naivete going into public office, mistakes he made, and the art of pitting groups against each other, etc. He is the closet thing to a true conservative that I have found, and would love to see him make a run. Unfortunately, he is strict to his Christian beliefs, and America seems to hate Christians these days.

 

His book wasn't exactly a barn-burner, but he really gave an interesting look at how things work in DC (like putting an increase for troop funding in a bill to permit, say, child porn in all libraries, and when Republicans vote against it, the Democrats run around yelling that the GOP hates the military). Probably the equivalent of Highlights magazine to some of you, but I found it pretty interesting.

[keepthefaith]

I've discussed DeMint before, and I truly like him. His book, "Saving Freedom," was very interesting to me as he documented his wide-eyed naivete going into public office, mistakes he made, and the art of pitting groups against each other, etc. He is the closet thing to a true conservative that I have found, and would love to see him make a run. Unfortunately, he is strict to his Christian beliefs, and America seems to hate Christians these days.

 

His book wasn't exactly a barn-burner, but he really gave an interesting look at how things work in DC (like putting an increase for troop funding in a bill to permit, say, child porn in all libraries, and when Republicans vote against it, the Democrats run around yelling that the GOP hates the military). Probably the equivalent of Highlights magazine to some of you, but I found it pretty interesting.

 

Really like DeMint. It's be interesting to see how far this bill goes. If it gets Republican support but not from Dems, it'll be a great campaign piece for Republicans come November.

 

We've reached a time where spending has to be dramatically cut. The numbers are so far out of whack and we simply can't afford the path we're on. I expect some Dems to begin talking the cuts agenda this fall. I really do.

[Gary M]

Too bad it will never pass.

 

because it isn't bipartisan.......... enough!!!

[LaDairis]

"Unfortunately, he is strict to his Christian beliefs, and America seems to hate Christians these days."

 

 

No, Americans just hate pseudo "Christian" traitors like W who dedicate their public lives to selling out our troops to raise cash and get favorable media coverage from the Zionist lobby.

 

The US, under mostly GOP rule (in the House especially), prospered under the fiscal conservatism of Newt Gingrich, with a booming economy and a SURPLUS in the 1990s thanks to SIX STRAIGHT YEARS of NO FEDERAL SPENDING INCREASES.

 

 

Then the pseudo THUMPERS couped Newt and the pork fest was on, led by Tom Delay, Frist, Fat Hastert, and the rest of the pseudo Christian traitors. Ten years later, the difference between what the US Federal government spent in 1998 and what it spent in 2008 was more than the 1.4 trillion deficit W's big spending Bible Thumping Socialist porkfest left us.

 

Then there is the problem of the bigoted invalid traitors who call themselves "conservative Christians" supporting selling out our troops over intentional lies and precisely nothing in our national interest in Iraq while making those who hit us on 911 "not a priority," all to appease the pro gay, pro abortion, pro socialism Zionist lobby, which was cheering on 911 for Al Qaeda and Taliban in their ongoing war at the time with Iranian backed and funded Northern Alliance in Afghan, because Israel hates Iran. Iran, the enemy of our enemy on 911, was offering to help us off AQ under then Prez Rafsanjani, an Ahmadinejad opponent.

 

 

When W flipped off Iran with "Axis of Evil," he flipped off our allies in Afghan, and he put Ahmadinejad in power in Iran.

 

A Prez deploys troops to area A to fight with ally B against enemy C, and then the Prez, with our troops still there, intentionally flips off ally B = THAT is what W did in Afghan to appease the Zionist Lobby = TREASON. But W wasn't through selling out the US to Israel. Israel wanted the US to invade and occupy Iraq, which is why the same Zionist lobby hated Bush 41 so much, and W wanted money and favorable media coverage. Lie after lie after intentional lie was used to justify Iraq.

 

 

Then W sold out

 

The FED

The TREASURY

The DOJ

The CIA

 

 

also to the Zionist Lobby by installing 100% career pro gay pro abortion Dem Zionists to each.

 

 

Finally, when the US economy collapsed because of the Bible Thumping Socialist PORKFEST 98-08, W took our money and handed it once again to Zionists on Wall Street.

 

 

I have no problem with authentic Christians.

 

I have a big problem with traitors, liars, big spending "Republican" sellouts, and those who think the US exists to serve Israel (as long as they get money and favorable media coverage to sell the US out to Israel).

 

 

In fact, I would support a concentration camp for the total extermination of anyone and everyone still defending W while claiming something other than total hatred of the US. Anyone and everyone still supporting W hates the US completely, because nobody in our history ever did more harm to the US than W, and that is what such traitors celebrate when they defend W.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

In fact, I would support a concentration camp for the total extermination of anyone and everyone still defending W while claiming something other than total hatred of the US. Anyone and everyone still supporting W hates the US completely, because nobody in our history ever did more harm to the US than W, and that is what such traitors celebrate when they defend W.

 

He should be kicked off of TSW for this. If he isn't, these boards aren't being run correctly. JMO

[LaDairis]

He should be kicked off of TSW for this. If he isn't, these boards aren't being run correctly. JMO

 

 

 

And there you have it.

 

No rights for Americans at all. No free speech. No telling the truth. Just send our troops to fight and die for a Greater Israel and then shovel our money into Zionist pocked on Wall Street after porking out for a decade.

 

This above traitor supported

 

1. W's massive porkfest, completely with lying to Congress about the cost of Socializing senior drugs

2. intentional lies to dump our troops in Iraq for nothing in US national interest

3. making those who hit us on 911 "not a priority"

 

 

Yes, indeed, traitor, you deserve to be burned alive in public.

[DC Tom]

He should be kicked off of TSW for this. If he isn't, these boards aren't being run correctly. JMO

 

Why? He's entitled to an opinion, and entitled to express it, and entitled to prove he's an idiot. Banning him would just be protecting him from himself.

[DC Tom]

Then there is the problem of the bigoted invalid traitors who call themselves "conservative Christians" supporting selling out our troops over intentional lies and precisely nothing in our national interest in Iraq while making those who hit us on 911 "not a priority," all to appease the pro gay, pro abortion, pro socialism Zionist lobby, which was cheering on 911 for Al Qaeda and Taliban in their ongoing war at the time with Iranian backed and funded Northern Alliance in Afghan, because Israel hates Iran. Iran, the enemy of our enemy on 911, was offering to help us off AQ under then Prez Rafsanjani, an Ahmadinejad opponent.

 

This **** is just comedy gold. All it's missing is "fraud" in capital letters.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

And there you have it.

 

No rights for Americans at all. No free speech. No telling the truth. Just send our troops to fight and die for a Greater Israel and then shovel our money into Zionist pocked on Wall Street after porking out for a decade.

 

This above traitor supported

 

1. W's massive porkfest, completely with lying to Congress about the cost of Socializing senior drugs

2. intentional lies to dump our troops in Iraq for nothing in US national interest

3. making those who hit us on 911 "not a priority"

 

 

Yes, indeed, traitor, you deserve to be burned alive in public.

 

You have your free speech, and so do I, and so do the moderators of this website. I'm using my free speech to call you a disgusting human being. I'm sure the moderators will exercise their free speech to ban you.

 

See? Nobody's free speech is being infringed upon.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Why? He's entitled to an opinion, and entitled to express it, and entitled to prove he's an idiot. Banning him would just be protecting him from himself.

 

You don't think he's crossing a line by saying all W supporters (as deluded as they may have been) should be slaughtered in concentration camps?

 

Oh, then he tells me I should be burned in public.

 

I realize there's a lot of vitriol on this particular board, but legitimate hate speech like that should warrant a ban.

[Alaska Darin]

You don't think he's crossing a line by saying all W supporters (as deluded as they may have been) should be slaughtered in concentration camps?

 

Oh, then he tells me I should be burned in public.

You should take him seriously. Someday he's going to be somebody.

[Magox]

Ladairis is like the original anglo-saxon version of Malcolm X.

[DC Tom]

You don't think he's crossing a line by saying all W supporters (as deluded as they may have been) should be slaughtered in concentration camps?

 

Oh, then he tells me I should be burned in public.

 

I realize there's a lot of vitriol on this particular board, but legitimate hate speech like that should warrant a ban.

 

I personally don't believe people should be banned for being hateful. Just disruptive.

 

And in my opinion, that's a line LaDumbass dances on. But if he wants to advocate putting everyone in concentration camps and burning you alive...I think he not only has the right to say so, but I encourage him to say so, on the principle that idiots are less dangerous when they're out in the open.

[LaDairis]

Why? He's entitled to an opinion, and entitled to express it, and entitled to prove he's an idiot. Banning him would just be protecting him from himself.

 

 

This from a self-proclaimed "science expert" who assured us that Al Gore is 100% right about "Global" "warming."

[LaDairis]

This **** is just comedy gold. All it's missing is "fraud" in capital letters.

 

 

 

The documentation of treason against the US is only funny to those who hate the US, like those pushing The FRAUD of Global non-Warming.

 

 

If you cannot refute it, first try to get the poster banned, and then just shout him down...

 

 

Every word of that is 100% true. Rafsanjani won three straight elections, and only lost in 2005 in a run-off because of "Axis of Evil" and endless Iranian media coverage of Iraqi Sunnis blowing up Shia mosques, all 100% the doing of W. Once W was gone, the Iranian people voted out Ahmadinejad, but it was too late, as he and his nutjobs have taken over.

[LaDairis]

You don't think he's crossing a line by saying all W supporters (as deluded as they may have been) should be slaughtered in concentration camps?

 

Oh, then he tells me I should be burned in public.

 

I realize there's a lot of vitriol on this particular board, but legitimate hate speech like that should warrant a ban.

 

 

 

What do you think should happen to documented traitors and those actively cheering treason against the US and the individual who harmed the US more than anyone in history???

 

 

A: a CHOSEN BAILOUT from Dual Citizen lifelong Dem Fed Chair CHOOSE'EM Ben Bernanke

[LaDairis]

Ladairis is like the original anglo-saxon version of Malcolm X.

 

 

No, much earlier. Try 15th century Romania... where the same thing was happening there: the "nobles" were selling out the people to fight and die for a foreign entity in exchange for money and political power, and then someone named Vlad tried to stop it. W and the THUMPERS are no different than the "nobles" of Romania in the 15th century, and they deserve the same fate Vlad gave the nobles...

[LaDairis]

You should take him seriously. Someday he's going to be somebody.

 

 

 

Perhaps I would have been "somebody" two years ago had W not purged 7 Federal prosecutors for failing to follow W's doctrine that Madoff, the Rabbis in NJ selling Palestinian body parts, and the rest of the Zionists in the US were above the law.

 

 

Hint: Madoff's indictment was Dec 12, 2008, or about three weeks into the DOJ transition. The only thing that kept Madoff from being indicted 2001-2008 was W and his non-stop appeasement of Zionists who hated his daddy.

[Adam]

In fact, I would support a concentration camp for the total extermination of anyone and everyone still defending W while claiming something other than total hatred of the US. Anyone and everyone still supporting W hates the US completely, because nobody in our history ever did more harm to the US than W, and that is what such traitors celebrate when they defend W.

hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmmm hmmmm hmmm

[LaDairis]

hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmmm hmmmm hmmm

 

 

 

Notice that nobody has attempted a serious defense of W, nobody claims Northern Alliance was not funded and armed by Iran (which it was), nobody is claiming that Iran under Rafsanjani wasn't helping us in Afghan before W flipped them off (because they were), nobody is claiming W didn't pork out and spend like a drunk sailor, complete with lying to socialize senior drugs, because he did.

 

Nobody is claiming W didn't send way too few to Afghan for "not a priority" Osama Bin Laden, because the initial W deployment to Afghan was 12k or barely enough to take and hold Kabul and Khandahar.

 

When Cheney went on Meet the Press and told us "we know Iraq is training Al Qaeda in chem weapons," nobody in our "US media" bothered to point out the following:

 

1. Osama lives "the Islamic Lifestyle," and the AQ manual states that "Islamic" leaders who don't live the lifestyle should be "overthrown." Saddam drank and smoked. If Saddam smoked in front of Osama, Osama would hack off his fingers. Osama and Saddam wanted each other DEAD. If Al Qaeda had existed in Iraq, they would have done the world a favor by offing Saddam and his kids, and Saddam knew that.

2. Chem is not a good weapon for Al Qaeda, which is why they don't use it. In fact, chem isn't a good weapon at all, which is why Saddam stopped his program before the Gulf War. Chem requires those expensive suits, expensive storage facilities (and air superiority, less those facilities get hit), is big and bulky, and only useful when your enemy is pinned in a valley (which is exactly the two situations Saddam used it) because the gas "sinks."

 

 

Cheney and Zionist Traitor George Tenet broke our laws and treaties to "waterboard" one Gitmo, not even an AQ, to say "Saddam is training AQ in chem."

 

THAT was Cheney's "evidence."

 

 

TREASON...

[Adam]

Notice that nobody has attempted a serious defense of W, nobody claims Northern Alliance was not funded and armed by Iran (which it was), nobody is claiming that Iran under Rafsanjani wasn't helping us in Afghan before W flipped them off (because they were), nobody is claiming W didn't pork out and spend like a drunk sailor, complete with lying to socialize senior drugs, because he did.

 

Nobody is claiming W didn't send way too few to Afghan for "not a priority" Osama Bin Laden, because the initial W deployment to Afghan was 12k or barely enough to take and hold Kabul and Khandahar.

 

When Cheney went on Meet the Press and told us "we know Iraq is training Al Qaeda in chem weapons," nobody in our "US media" bothered to point out the following:

 

1. Osama lives "the Islamic Lifestyle," and the AQ manual states that "Islamic" leaders who don't live the lifestyle should be "overthrown." Saddam drank and smoked. If Saddam smoked in front of Osama, Osama would hack off his fingers. Osama and Saddam wanted each other DEAD. If Al Qaeda had existed in Iraq, they would have done the world a favor by offing Saddam and his kids, and Saddam knew that.

2. Chem is not a good weapon for Al Qaeda, which is why they don't use it. In fact, chem isn't a good weapon at all, which is why Saddam stopped his program before the Gulf War. Chem requires those expensive suits, expensive storage facilities (and air superiority, less those facilities get hit), is big and bulky, and only useful when your enemy is pinned in a valley (which is exactly the two situations Saddam used it) because the gas "sinks."

 

 

Cheney and Zionist Traitor George Tenet broke our laws and treaties to "waterboard" one Gitmo, not even an AQ, to say "Saddam is training AQ in chem."

 

THAT was Cheney's "evidence."

 

 

TREASON...

You told people they should be burned alive for having an opinion. There are plenty of people like that in history.

 

Again....

 

hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmmm hmmmm hmmm

[Alaska Darin]

This from a self-proclaimed "science expert" who assured us that Al Gore is 100% right about "Global" "warming."

No, he didn't. Not that your credibility matters or anything. Ladumbass is in the hizzle.

[Alaska Darin]

Perhaps I would have been "somebody" two years ago had W not purged 7 Federal prosecutors for failing to follow W's doctrine that Madoff, the Rabbis in NJ selling Palestinian body parts, and the rest of the Zionists in the US were above the law.

Sure. There are a whole bunch of somebodies running around the internet advocating concentration camps and burning people who disagree with them.

Hint: Madoff's indictment was Dec 12, 2008, or about three weeks into the DOJ transition. The only thing that kept Madoff from being indicted 2001-2008 was W and his non-stop appeasement of Zionists who hated his daddy.

So?

[DC Tom]

This from a self-proclaimed "science expert" who assured us that Al Gore is 100% right about "Global" "warming."

 

 

Where do you get that from? You're managing to out-stupid conner now - and that's no mean feat.

[DC Tom]

The documentation of treason against the US is only funny to those who hate the US, like those pushing The FRAUD of Global non-Warming.

 

And there's "fraud" in caps.

[keepthefaith]

Notice that nobody has attempted a serious defense of W, nobody claims Northern Alliance was not funded and armed by Iran (which it was), nobody is claiming that Iran under Rafsanjani wasn't helping us in Afghan before W flipped them off (because they were), nobody is claiming W didn't pork out and spend like a drunk sailor, complete with lying to socialize senior drugs, because he did.

 

Nobody is claiming W didn't send way too few to Afghan for "not a priority" Osama Bin Laden, because the initial W deployment to Afghan was 12k or barely enough to take and hold Kabul and Khandahar.

 

When Cheney went on Meet the Press and told us "we know Iraq is training Al Qaeda in chem weapons," nobody in our "US media" bothered to point out the following:

 

1. Osama lives "the Islamic Lifestyle," and the AQ manual states that "Islamic" leaders who don't live the lifestyle should be "overthrown." Saddam drank and smoked. If Saddam smoked in front of Osama, Osama would hack off his fingers. Osama and Saddam wanted each other DEAD. If Al Qaeda had existed in Iraq, they would have done the world a favor by offing Saddam and his kids, and Saddam knew that.

2. Chem is not a good weapon for Al Qaeda, which is why they don't use it. In fact, chem isn't a good weapon at all, which is why Saddam stopped his program before the Gulf War. Chem requires those expensive suits, expensive storage facilities (and air superiority, less those facilities get hit), is big and bulky, and only useful when your enemy is pinned in a valley (which is exactly the two situations Saddam used it) because the gas "sinks."

 

 

Cheney and Zionist Traitor George Tenet broke our laws and treaties to "waterboard" one Gitmo, not even an AQ, to say "Saddam is training AQ in chem."

 

THAT was Cheney's "evidence."

 

 

TREASON...

 

You're not going to get much support for Bush here or anywhere. Old news. What's the point? This thread is about a balanced budget bill. Common sense. I'm sure you support it.

[Jim in Anchorage]

This is a absolutely epic. He has gone from calling Sage "a a traitor who should be burned alive" for supporting the "lies" that justified a war that started when he was what, sixteen? all the way to apparently endorsing Dracula. And to think I almost missed it. Do NOT ban him.

[bills_fan]

Yeah, AD sorry about your thread being shot (I really do love the ideas DeMint is proposing), but LaDarius melting down is pretty comical.

[Alaska Darin]

Yeah, AD sorry about your thread being shot (I really do love the ideas DeMint is proposing), but LaDarius melting down is pretty comical.

The funniest thing is it's not really a meltdown. He's that big a tool.

[IDBillzFan]

The funniest thing is it's not really a meltdown. He's that big a tool.

I'm reminded of an insult I read at some blog recently where a guy posted some nonsense about global warming and a poster commented that "It's obvious the smartest part of you dripped down your mother's leg."

[Nanker]

He seems to be a hybrid Lyndon LaRouche / John Birch Society ideologue - with a 'tude.

[EC-Bills]

I've discussed DeMint before, and I truly like him. His book, "Saving Freedom," was very interesting to me as he documented his wide-eyed naivete going into public office, mistakes he made, and the art of pitting groups against each other, etc. He is the closet thing to a true conservative that I have found, and would love to see him make a run.

 

It's nice to see that someone in office is actually refelctive and tries to learn from it. The only time any reflection is done by a politician in my state (IL) is trying to figure out where they screwed up which led to them getting caught.

 

Unfortunately, he is strict to his Christian beliefs, and America seems to hate Christians these days.

 

For me, that would be a deal breaker. I do not hate Christians. I feel people are free to believe whatever they want to believe. The issue I have with social conservatives (whom I differentiate from regular Christians, whom in my experiences, are open/tolerant of other view points) is the need to use religion as a means to butt into the lives of people they do not agree with. I grew up in the bible belt so I had my fill of this stuff and then some.

 

I find it ironic he talks about on his website upholding the Constitution, the freedoms it provides, and yet turns around and wants to deny people basic freedoms by ammending the Constitution declaring marriage shall only consist of a legal union between a man and a woman.

 

All of which frustrates me as I agree with him on a lot of other issues. Ideally I would like to find someone running for office that is a fiscal conservative, smaller govt, etc. and most importantly actually understands and respects the Constitution.

[LaDairis]

This is a absolutely epic. He has gone from calling Sage "a a traitor who should be burned alive" for supporting the "lies" that justified a war that started when he was what, sixteen? all the way to apparently endorsing Dracula. And to think I almost missed it. Do NOT ban him.

 

 

 

You seem to think that lies used to get US troops killed for nothing in US national interest are just fine.

 

 

This is because you don't care one bit about the United States. Rather, you care about Israel, and your contempt for the US and the fate of those in the US military is only matched by your Zionist heroes at FIXED, who still insist Saddam and Osama were pals.

 

 

If someone lies and gets US troops killed for nothing in US national interest, I think that someone is a traitor who should be executed. You disagree. You love that individual. You worship him. You don't want him executed. You want him worshipped...

[LaDairis]

No, he didn't. Not that your credibility matters or anything. Ladumbass is in the hizzle.

 

 

 

It is fascinating to watch all of the Wall's resident Zionists act like levites and all lie at once.

 

 

Perhaps you will now tell us that Dr. Michael Mann is really a christian and not an Israelite Zionist Traitor too??

 

 

The thing Judaism hates the most = TRUTH... and those who publicize it over Zionist media lies...

[Alaska Darin]

It is fascinating to watch all of the Wall's resident Zionists act like levites and all lie at once.

 

 

Perhaps you will now tell us that Dr. Michael Mann is really a christian and not an Israelite Zionist Traitor too??

 

 

The thing Judaism hates the most = TRUTH... and those who publicize it over Zionist media lies...

And now you get to do it without commenting.

[IDBillzFan]

It's nice to see that someone in office is actually refelctive and tries to learn from it. The only time any reflection is done by a politician in my state (IL) is trying to figure out where they screwed up which led to them getting caught.

 

 

 

For me, that would be a deal breaker. I do not hate Christians. I feel people are free to believe whatever they want to believe. The issue I have with social conservatives (whom I differentiate from regular Christians, whom in my experiences, are open/tolerant of other view points) is the need to use religion as a means to butt into the lives of people they do not agree with. I grew up in the bible belt so I had my fill of this stuff and then some.

 

I find it ironic he talks about on his website upholding the Constitution, the freedoms it provides, and yet turns around and wants to deny people basic freedoms by ammending the Constitution declaring marriage shall only consist of a legal union between a man and a woman.

 

All of which frustrates me as I agree with him on a lot of other issues. Ideally I would like to find someone running for office that is a fiscal conservative, smaller govt, etc. and most importantly actually understands and respects the Constitution.

His social beliefs don't bother me that much because in this manner, the only difference between DeMint and Obama is DeMint is more open about it. For example, Obama doesn't belief gays should be allowed to marry. And based on an article I read this morning here, he really doesn't care about "don't ask, don't tell" beyond pandering to his base. So if both sides have the same belief on key social issues, I'll take the guy who at least believes in a balanced budget, fiscal restraint and an end to earmarks. Still, being vocal about his Christian beliefs will get him hammered by the left. That's the ad

 

Reports on the meat of the new "Jobs Bill" are coming out, and if they are to be believed, DeMint's efforts could get more airtime because it looks to be another bloated bill that does little to address jobs and does more to hand out cash to friends.

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[John Adams]

And now you get to do it without commenting.

 

Ah, so you're another tool of the Zionist plot.