bkc Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 2002 St. Louis 7-6 220-144 1,431 .655 3 11 67.4 2003 St. Louis 2-1 65-38 365 .585 1 1 72.9 2004 NYG 10-9 277-174 2,054 .628 6 4 86.5 2005 Arizona 10-10 375-242 2,713 .645 11 9 85.8 2006 Arizona 6-5 168-108 1,377 .643 6 5 89.3 So he was hurt in '03 and played on run oriented teams in the other years. I notice the last 3 of those years he had a QB rating equal to or better than Favre's career rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 So he was hurt in '03 and played on run oriented teams in the other years. I notice the last 3 of those years he had a QB rating equal to or better than Favre's career rating. He was actually hurt pretty much that whole time period - shoulder/thumb/concussions. Once he got his shoulder/thumb stuff worked out medically and started wearing the compression gloves to help his grip, he went back to being one of the top guys in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 It has to be asked...is he really retiring, or just Favreing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 HOF, yes......first ballot, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 While most of the sportswriting world has already speculated that Kurt Warner's press conference, set for 3 p.m. ET Friday, will serve as his official retirement announcement, our own inside source informs me that Warner is definitely walking away. I've learned not to question his judgment. Which begs the question of Warner's legacy, of course. If you'd asked me about his Hall of Fame chances a year ago, I would have hemmed and hawed before saying that yes, he "probably" had a good chance to get in "someday." (Okay, so I hedge my bets.) Looking back, I wonder what I was thinking, because the two-time MVP looks like a first-ballot lock. Since The Associated Press started handing out Most Valuable Player honors in 1957, only six players have won the award more than once: Peyton Manning (4), Brett Favre (3), Jim Brown (3), Johnny Unitas (3), Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Warner. Brown, Unitas, Montana, and Young were each elected in their first year of eligibility. Manning and Favre certainly will be. Is there any valid reason to keep Warner out of that group? If there is, let's hear it. He's abso-friggin-lutely a hall of famer in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Does he get extra points for being the opposing QB when the Pats *allegedly* had their worst cheating episode (i.e., sneaking in and filming the Rams' walk through prior to the SB in 2002)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 It has to be asked...is he really retiring, or just Favreing? He's actually announcing that he just saved 15% by switching to Geico! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Undoubtedly a firtst ballet HOfer. One of the best pure passers I've seen. I always liked him and found it easy to root for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Absolutely. If I had to pick a QB to win one game today I'd take Warner over anyone other than Manning. I second the notion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide_right Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 for me he just doesnt pass the "smell" test when i watch him play. he always looks awkward and gets really frazzled with the slightest amount of pressure. and oh yes, those horrible fumble turnovers. he was replaced in saint louis by bulgar, and in ny by manning. i know some stats may say otherwise, but for me at least id never consider starting him over any HOF QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Most accurate & HOF for sure. Great career for a man many scouts overlooked. I wonder how many good QB's are lost in the politics of the scouting game. Just makes me wonder??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishouldbegm Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 his defenses blew 2 superbowls, he should have 3 rings right now imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 his defenses blew 2 superbowls, he should have 3 rings right now imo Did the Rams defense blow it against the Pats or did the Pats cheat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide_right Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 his defenses blew 2 superbowls, he should have 3 rings right now imo his offense didnt score enough points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 for me he just doesnt pass the "smell" test when i watch him play. he always looks awkward and gets really frazzled with the slightest amount of pressure. and oh yes, those horrible fumble turnovers. he was replaced in saint louis by bulgar, and in ny by manning. i know some stats may say otherwise, but for me at least id never consider starting him over any HOF QBs Actually, Warner can be knocked for certain things, but by any account there's no guy in recent NFL history who has been more willing to accept the blow that comes with intense pressure in order to deliver the ball at the last possible moment. "Frazzled by pressure" gets it backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I missed the opportunity to reply with stats and such, so let me simply say this, it would be crazy if Warner wasn't in the HOF. He should be a first ballot depending upon whether he and Brett will be eligible at the same time. Since I fully expect Favre to retire at 70 and pass away at 74, that shouldn't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 his defenses blew 2 superbowls, he should have 3 rings right now imo Martz blew the 2nd SB by not running Faulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 It has to be asked...is he really retiring, or just Favreing? Valid question ... but I don't think he was kidding when he spoke about the impact Anquan Boldin's injury against the Jets last year had on him. Add his own concussion issues and the killshot he took in the playoff game, and I have no problem believing that he's done for good. Speaking of the other guy, loved the column one of my favorite writers filed after the Vikes-Saints game: Favre de La Mancha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide_right Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Actually, Warner can be knocked for certain things, but by any account there's no guy in recent NFL history who has been more willing to accept the blow that comes with intense pressure in order to deliver the ball at the last possible moment. "Frazzled by pressure" gets it backwards. and coughing up the untimely pick or fumble. the guy had the best WRs in Saint Louis and the best WR Fitzgerald in AZ. when he was with Giants and the WRs were good but not great he struggled mightily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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