Aaron Maybin - What do we know so far his rookie year

[San-O]

Let me start by saying I have been an advocate of drafting D-linemen, either DT or DE, for I don't remember how many years now. Let's just say a lot.

 

Just for clarification:

 

1. I have never been much of a Schobel guy. He never seems to have much of an impact on

a game, and will seemingly disappear all together.

 

2. I still don't understand why the Bills felt it necessary to dump Pat Williams.

 

3. Moving up to get linemen ala. Ryan Denny and John McCargo: not good.

 

4. If you can't draft, develop, acquire or keep good D-line talent, you're in trouble.

 

 

The questions now about Maybin are pretty straight forward.

 

1. I still don't know why they took him where they did.

2. He has appeared in all 9 games, but has not started: why?

3. His size at 6' 4" 240 - 250 is much too small for a DE as I see it, so is he a "tweener"?

4. The depth chart has him at DE, although has he lined up at OLB at all?

5. With the injuries and general poor play at LB, he can't be used there? Anywhere?

6. Before the season some speculated he would be used as a pass-rushing specialist. Has this happened?

7. He has 6 total tackles and 0 sacks: Why 0 sacks?

8. Given the age at DL, see Denney, Schobel, Stroud, who can he replace?

9. Is it too early too call this pick a bust? Nothing against the player, but where he was taken, how he is being used,

and results so far, how can you come to any other conclusion.

 

 

Where do the Bills go now with Maybin? They have to keep him, they need to rebuild the D-line or WILL rebuild it anyway

with a new coach and G.M. coming in. Is he destined to be another Ryan Denney, someone you can throw in there that doesn't produce, so don't expect too much?

 

http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronmaybin/gamelogs?id=MAY287870

 

Seems like a good college player that so far, isn't suited to the Pro game.

 

Flame away.

 

 

P.S. Happy Holidays, support the troop!

[BADOLBILZ]

Let me start by saying I have been an advocate of drafting D-linemen, either DT or DE, for I don't remember how many years now. Let's just say a lot.

 

Just for clarification:

 

1. I have never been much of a Schobel guy. He never seems to have much of an impact on

a game, and will seemingly disappear all together.

 

2. I still don't understand why the Bills felt it necessary to dump Pat Williams.

 

3. Moving up to get linemen ala. Ryan Denny and John McCargo: not good.

 

4. If you can't draft, develop, acquire or keep good D-line talent, you're in trouble.

 

 

The questions now about Maybin are pretty straight forward.

 

1. I still don't know why they took him where they did.

2. He has appeared in all 9 games, but has not started: why?

3. His size at 6' 4" 240 - 250 is much too small for a DE as I see it, so is he a "tweener"?

4. The depth chart has him at DE, although has he lined up at OLB at all?

5. With the injuries and general poor play at LB, he can't be used there? Anywhere?

6. Before the season some speculated he would be used as a pass-rushing specialist. Has this happened?

7. He has 6 total tackles and 0 sacks: Why 0 sacks?

8. Given the age at DL, see Denney, Schobel, Stroud, who can he replace?

9. Is it too early too call this pick a bust? Nothing against the player, but where he was taken, how he is being used,

and results so far, how can you come to any other conclusion.

 

 

Where do the Bills go now with Maybin? They have to keep him, they need to rebuild the D-line or WILL rebuild it anyway

with a new coach and G.M. coming in. Is he destined to be another Ryan Denney, someone you can throw in there that doesn't produce, so don't expect too much?

 

http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronmaybin/gamelogs?id=MAY287870

 

Seems like a good college player that so far, isn't suited to the Pro game.

 

Flame away.

 

 

P.S. Happy Holidays, support the troop!

 

Lack of impact was predictable. Maybin was a very young draftee and undersized and even for his size very much a finesse player so the transition to the NFL is going to take some extra time. He's a project with potential to be great. He was the wrong guy if you were needing production right away, which they were. Hopefully, in 2-3 years he will start to look like a young Jason Taylor. The people who were expecting him to start, provide consistent pressure and record 6-8 sacks as a rookie were barking up the wrong tree.

[BillsFan74]

Let me start by saying I have been an advocate of drafting D-linemen, either DT or DE, for I don't remember how many years now. Let's just say a lot.

 

Just for clarification:

 

1. I have never been much of a Schobel guy. He never seems to have much of an impact on

a game, and will seemingly disappear all together.

 

2. I still don't understand why the Bills felt it necessary to dump Pat Williams.

 

3. Moving up to get linemen ala. Ryan Denny and John McCargo: not good.

 

4. If you can't draft, develop, acquire or keep good D-line talent, you're in trouble.

 

 

The questions now about Maybin are pretty straight forward.

 

1. I still don't know why they took him where they did.

2. He has appeared in all 9 games, but has not started: why?

3. His size at 6' 4" 240 - 250 is much too small for a DE as I see it, so is he a "tweener"?

4. The depth chart has him at DE, although has he lined up at OLB at all?

5. With the injuries and general poor play at LB, he can't be used there? Anywhere?

6. Before the season some speculated he would be used as a pass-rushing specialist. Has this happened?

7. He has 6 total tackles and 0 sacks: Why 0 sacks?

8. Given the age at DL, see Denney, Schobel, Stroud, who can he replace?

9. Is it too early too call this pick a bust? Nothing against the player, but where he was taken, how he is being used,

and results so far, how can you come to any other conclusion.

 

 

Where do the Bills go now with Maybin? They have to keep him, they need to rebuild the D-line or WILL rebuild it anyway

with a new coach and G.M. coming in. Is he destined to be another Ryan Denney, someone you can throw in there that doesn't produce, so don't expect too much?

 

http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronmaybin/gamelogs?id=MAY287870

 

Seems like a good college player that so far, isn't suited to the Pro game.

 

Flame away.

 

 

P.S. Happy Holidays, support the troop!

 

 

I think Maybin is a 3-4 OLB if developed properly. It's always easy to play monday morning QB, but I thought the only DE in last years draft that was a first round 4-3 end was Robert Ayers. If the Bills want to compete they need to get bigger upfront.

[Ramius]

Yup, over 70 career sacks, 3 seasons with double digit sacks is someone who "doesn't make an impact".

[BADOLBILZ]

I think Maybin is a 3-4 OLB if developed properly. It's always easy to play monday morning QB, but I thought the only DE in last years draft that was a first round 4-3 end was Robert Ayers. If the Bills want to compete they need to get bigger upfront.

 

 

If the right decisions are made they don't need to be second guessed. Then you don't need a "monday morning QB". Discounting failure as if it were just misfortune is what unaccountability is all about.

 

Your take on Ayers is reminiscent of many opinions from the draft where the Bills took Willis McGahee. You say Ayers was the only top 4-3 DE. All the defenders of the pick claimed that there was no better player available than McGahee. As it turned out they were very wrong. Time will tell. It's very likely that in the next 2-3 years there will be several 4-3 DE's teams will wish they had taken in round 1 and Ayers may not be one of them.

[sharper802]

He should have been played at OLB this year. If he adds weight he can move down to DE. Noone has a problem with tweeners when they get ten sacks a season. I am hoping he turns into Demarcus Ware.

[zazie]

He should have been played at OLB this year. If he adds weight he can move down to DE. Noone has a problem with tweeners when they get ten sacks a season. I am hoping he turns into Demarcus Ware.

Demarcus had a strong Parcells to looks after him the first couple years. We are back to the substandard (putting it mildly) coaching efforts of the departed one. We can only hope new coaches can bring something out of Maybin.

[Max997]

we know now what we knew then, he shouldnt have been drafted by the Bills

[coldstorage5]

He is a bust. Top 10 picks, need tp start by week 4-8 and contribute right away. This is another huge mistake. At the college level his size is fine. not in the NFL. At least we got Byrd later.

[Tcali]

Lack of impact was predictable. Maybin was a very young draftee and undersized and even for his size very much a finesse player so the transition to the NFL is going to take some extra time. He's a project with potential to be great. He was the wrong guy if you were needing production right away, which they were. Hopefully, in 2-3 years he will start to look like a young Jason Taylor. The people who were expecting him to start, provide consistent pressure and record 6-8 sacks as a rookie were barking up the wrong tree.

they barked up the wrong tree when they picked him at eleven if thats all they expected from him

[Hossage]

Maybin has the strength to play safety.

[PushthePile]

Maybin has the strength to play safety.

Perfect, because our first round safety doesn't.

[Lori]

Maybin = redshirt sophomore AND missed all of training camp. Given that combo, why should anyone be surprised that this has turned into a lost season for him?

 

Y'all know by now that I bleed Blue and White, but even I thought he should've stayed in school for another year. Maybe we find out what he's got next August. I doubt it happens before then.

[ganesh]

Lack of impact was predictable. Maybin was a very young draftee and undersized and even for his size very much a finesse player so the transition to the NFL is going to take some extra time. He's a project with potential to be great. He was the wrong guy if you were needing production right away, which they were. Hopefully, in 2-3 years he will start to look like a young Jason Taylor. The people who were expecting him to start, provide consistent pressure and record 6-8 sacks as a rookie were barking up the wrong tree.

 

And his hold out and missing entire training camp really ruined his rookie season.

[zazie]

And his hold out and missing entire training camp really ruined his rookie season.

This is the breakout week!

[Thurman#1]

Yup, over 70 career sacks, 3 seasons with double digit sacks is someone who "doesn't make an impact".

 

 

Oh, I missed that. Schobel has a huge impact. Last year, no Schobel, no pass rush. This year, yes Schobel yes pass rush, with virtually no other DL changes. Schobel has a major impact.

[Thurman#1]

we know now what we knew then, he shouldnt have been drafted by the Bills

 

 

 

We know now what we knew then, virtually NOTHING.

 

Very very few rookie DEs make a big impact. Fewer still small guys who are less than a month past their 21st birthday who get drafted under the assumption that they will put on a lot of weight before being able to fill the job. And yet fewer still who then hold out for a month or so.

[Kettle Creek Football]

We know now what we knew then, virtually NOTHING.

 

Very very few rookie DEs make a big impact. Fewer still small guys who are less than a month past their 21st birthday who get drafted under the assumption that they will put on a lot of weight before being able to fill the job. And yet fewer still who then hold out for a month or so.

I don't think he was drafted to be an immediate impact player, anyway. Give the kid a chance, he's only 21, comes from a solid family and football background. Heck, even Mario Williams took a couple of years to come into his own. For that matter, so did Bruuuuuce.

[iinii]

I think Maybin is a 3-4 OLB if developed properly. It's always easy to play monday morning QB, but I thought the only DE in last years draft that was a first round 4-3 end was Robert Ayers. If the Bills want to compete they need to get bigger upfront.

I liked Ayers myself, he had been used in that role at Tennessee. What little I have seen of him, Ayers seems to playing at outside Backer though. I, as another Monday QB, thought we could use some girth up front to get the line of scrimmage under control and keep the linebackers and safeties from having to make so many tackles. Has Maybin maxed out his frame?

[John Adams]

Maybin = redshirt sophomore AND missed all of training camp. Given that combo, why should anyone be surprised that this has turned into a lost season for him?

 

Y'all know by now that I bleed Blue and White, but even I thought he should've stayed in school for another year. Maybe we find out what he's got next August. I doubt it happens before then.

 

Great...asking Bills fans to once again put off hope another year!

 

It hurts Lori, it hurts.