first_and_ten Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Total times he has proclaimed his obsession with prepubescent actress Dakota Fanning: 300. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJ91 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Are you sure about this? I've seen two QBs picked in the first round last year this season. We all know what "Sanchize" did against us. And on Sunday I saw Stafford (1st pick in last year's draft) throw 5 interceptions against the 2-5 Seahawks. I want no part of a first round QB. Too risky. Get a vet and let's get better now. I'm tired of baby sitting snot nose rookie QBs while they "develop" or not. Let's take a look at the first round QB's taken in the last 6 drafts, since the Bills rolled the dice on Lost-man: 2009: Stafford, Sanchez and Freeman. 2008: Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco were the two QB's taken in 2008's first round. The third QB taken in '08 was Chad Henne in the 2nd round 2007: JaMacus Russell and Brady Quinn. 2006: Vince Young, Matt Leinert & Jay Cutler. 2005: Alex Smith, Aaron Rogers, & Jason Campbell. 2004: Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Rothlesberger and J.P. Lost-man. So you a Bills fan, "wants no part of a first round QB - too risky." It is understandable. Of all the QB's drafted in round one in the past 6 NFL drafts, Lost-man is the only one playing in the UFL today. But we as fans cannot do anything about Donahoe and his guys making that idiotic pick, trading back into the first round no less, back in '04. But look at the teams that have settled their QB position from those drafts the past 6 years: 1) Steelers - 2 SB wins under Big Ben. 2) Giants - 1 SB win under Eli. 3) Chargers - Pro Bowl QB in Rivers, got them into last years' AFC Championship game. 4) Packers - took a couple years, but Rogers is now the man in GB. 5) Bears - traded for Pro Bowl QB Cutler from Denver. 6) Falcons - Matt Ryan has easily made everyone forget the dog killer in Atlanta. 7) Ravens - After never having a real QB, even when the won the SB (Trent Dilfer??) Baltimore seems pretty set with Flacco. 8) Broncos - Came away with Kyle Orton in the Cutler trade, and he seems to be a perfect fit for McDanials offense. Teams that still may benefit from their picks: 1) Titans - Vince Young is back starting again, and maybe he has grown up enough to continue what he started a couple years ago. 2) Cardinals - Matt Leinert is still backing up Warner, who can't play forever. 3) Jets - Sanchez looks like he will be a star in a year or two. 4) Bucs - Josh Freeman had a great first game and may grow into the QB of the future for Tampa. 5) Lions - Stafford is really struggling this season, but the Lions need a lot around him to give him a real chance. 6) Browns - Brady Quinn can still win the job there and grow into an NFL starter. Teams That Busted Out With Their First Round Picks: 1) Buffalo - Lost-mans out of the NFL already. 2) Oakland - Man Russell really sucks, doesn't he?? 3) Washington - Campbell doesn't look like he can remain a starter in the NFL. Here's my final point. Look at the overall records of the top 8 teams above, who ended up with quality QB's out of those 6 drafts, compared to the overall records of the other 9 teams that ended up with unproven QB's or busts. I think it tells us that the the best organizations, including team GM and all scouts, seem to find the best rookie QB's trade for the best veteran QB's year in and year out, and it is always the lousy teams that draft the lousy QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Trent was very good in 3-5 games last year. Maybe thats what he wanted to get back to? If he played like that week in week out we would have no QB issue.... other than the injury issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 That' sad. From a guy that usually spews the company line, that actually says a lot. He can't talk to the O-linemen when he's the starter? No wonder they aren't on the same page, he should be talking to everyone. The RB's, WR's, OL and even the defense for suggestions. Yet game after game, you see him on the sideline by himself when not on the field. He's just not a leader, very sad... Maybe he was a Bills fan last year and wants to be one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I like a good O-line myself personally, behind one, Rodgers could be an elite QB in this league. Exactly...Rodgers would go from very good to an elite QB with a good O-line. The problem is that Trent would go from bad to not as bad with a good O-line. A good QB is still good with a bad line. It's not like the pass blocking breaks down on every single play for the Bills, Trent has had time to throw at times. There should be a huge difference in his decisions when he has time as opposed to when he is blitzed, but there isn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF88Bills Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I dunno I somehow feel like Rivers,Roethlisburger,Brees,Rodgers, guys like that would still find a way to have success behind our O line. You know guys who are actually ahhh talented. I heard being talented really helps at this whole football thing. OK...now couple our Oline with an unimaginative offensive scheme...and a conservative headcoach... Nope. i don't think any of those guys would have success on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Maybe it's because it's late in the day, but I'm having a hard time finding the sarcasm in this post. Please tell me it's dripping with sarcasm and that I'm just missing it. And while you're at it, let us all know which team Trent Edwards led to wins. I was referring to the team that went 5-1 early in the season...that's all, nothing else. He was clearly bad after that, so I don't think he would have been talking about the 2-8 finish. Sorry I didn't spell it out in great detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 OK...now couple our Oline with an unimaginative offensive scheme...and a conservative headcoach... Nope. i don't think any of those guys would have success on this team. Or concievably maybe our Offensive scheme is unimaginitive because our QB's suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 OK...now couple our Oline with an unimaginative offensive scheme...and a conservative headcoach... Nope. i don't think any of those guys would have success on this team. And a new OC every year. None of them any good. I don't know if TE has any potential. He may very well be useless but I'm not sure it's fair to compare him to Rogers. Every person is different and some can handle situations better than others. I just think that any qb in Buffalo the last few seasons would start out with a 0-2 count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Fans blow everything players say out of proportion. That's why we end up with stupid threads just like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 What? Allow me to enlighten you... This is Trent's Stanford bio scroll down to "Getting to know Trent Edwards". There you will see this... Favorite Actresses: Dakota Fanning Trent was 23 years old at the time. Dakota Fanning was... wait for it... 12. How the !@#$ is a 23 year old Division 1 starting quarterback even aware of a 12 year old actress ? How is it that a college senior has seen not only 1 but enough of her movies to name her as his favorite actress ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Trent thinks he was good last year ... ummm, no. "It's just a matter of taking everything in that you can," he said. "Seeing what Ryan is doing well and trying to learn from him and talking to O-linemen on the side and seeing what calls they like to make. You don't normally get to do that when you're the starter. You see a lot more things when you're sitting on the sidelines. So there are some things I picked up that will hopefully allow me to get back to where I was last season." i would say i am not a trent supporter, but i think he has the ability to be a solid NFL qb still.. that said - i looked at his college stats - only 1 300yd passing game. blew my mind. granted he was hurt a ton behind that o-line, but thats nutz. BUT.... he had a TON more long TD throws. even if half of them were check downs, he was throwing a lot more down field. either our line or this coaching staff or his concussions is causing him to not take shots anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Allow me to enlighten you... This is Trent's Stanford bio scroll down to "Getting to know Trent Edwards". There you will see this... Favorite Actresses: Dakota Fanning Trent was 23 years old at the time. Dakota Fanning was... wait for it... 12. How the !@#$ is a 23 year old Division 1 starting quarterback even aware of a 12 year old actress ? How is it that a college senior has seen not only 1 but enough of her movies to name her as his favorite actress ?? she's a family friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 she's a family friend Oh. Tell her I said "Hi" and stay away from Trent Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakPop Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yup, last stand, whatever, Any starting QB in the league will struggle behind our O-line, does that simple fact just not register with some of you. Dude, you just need to stop posting. You have got to be the most incompetent people posting on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dude, you just need to stop posting. You have got to be the most incompetent people posting on this board. It seems like personal insults are at the top of your agenda, something typical of the most incompetent fools on this board. I don't care what you think about me and I don't imagine other folks care so why don't you post something useful or don't post at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Its been obvious the Bills Rookie O-line has been a work in progress. The goings been tough, but with every game our O-line gains in experience and confidence. The Buffalo Bills also have another work in progress, a young rookie by the name of Shawn Nelson. At 6-5 the 240 lbs play making TE out of Southern Mississippi is big, he's fast and he's dangerous. Part of the solution comes to light in Shawn Nelson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Let's take a look at the first round QB's taken in the last 6 drafts, since the Bills rolled the dice on Lost-man: . . . Here's my final point. Look at the overall records of the top 8 teams above, who ended up with quality QB's out of those 6 drafts, compared to the overall records of the other 9 teams that ended up with unproven QB's or busts. I think it tells us that the the best organizations, including team GM and all scouts, seem to find the best rookie QB's trade for the best veteran QB's year in and year out, and it is always the lousy teams that draft the lousy QB's. Great post! Just to add to what you've written: first-rate QBs in their primes almost never hit free agency. Yeah, there's always the Drew Brees example. But that was a few years ago. What quarterbacks since then have a) hit free agency, b) have been in their primes, c) have performed at the level of the nine success stories you found? Unless your defense is as good as that of the Ravens of 2000, you're going to need a real QB to win the Super Bowl. Getting a real QB generally means drafting one--usually in the first round. That said, this may not be a very good draft for quarterbacks. From a purely tactical perspective, the Bills might be better served by using their first round pick on a LT, and waiting until the first round of 2011 to draft the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Oh. Tell her I said "Hi" and stay away from Trent Edwards. That is very odd. Short eyes muthafu**a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 That' sad. From a guy that usually spews the company line, that actually says a lot. He can't talk to the O-linemen when he's the starter? No wonder they aren't on the same page, he should be talking to everyone. The RB's, WR's, OL and even the defense for suggestions. Yet game after game, you see him on the sideline by himself when not on the field. He's just not a leader, very sad... He's just talking about having more time. Usually now when he's on the sidelines, the coaches are talking to him or he's talking to Hamdan. Now, he's got time to get around a bit more and see the big picture. It's all very reasonable, and in fact hopeful that he sees this and is using the chance. Does that mean all will be well? Who knows, but there's always a chance. And I'm sure he meant to how well he was playing at the beginning of the year last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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