Andy1

So I presume you are opposed to the extension of the Trump tax cuts which will add 5.8 trillion to the deficit. Correct?

I agree with your assessment. If China is the target, it makes no sense to tariff the rest of the world too. There is no logic behind these tariffs. So then the reason for them moves to other realms. Interesting read in the link but I have no idea who the author is or what his credibility is.

So if the tariffs are about fixing the national deficit, why did the Republican senate pass this budget proposal?

Uncertainty Index = Lack of trust. Trump has even beaten the global pandemic - can you say WINNING?

No public policy, based upon goals to achieve for the betterment of America, to determine exemptions from tariffs going forward - just whatever he wants to do. Smells like corruption to me.

If Obama, Biden or Harris had pulled this stunt, tweeting it’s a great time to buy, before announcing the 90 day pause, MAGA media and the Republican Party would be screaming for impeachment due to market manipulation. They would be launching immediate investigations to find the insider trading. With Trump, the cult members are all happy with it….nothing to see here.

New trade agreements = 0 Proof of concept = 0 Probability of recession = increased to 45% Collective wealth lost = 6-10 trillion $ and counting. Damage to trust in USA economy = long term Damage to international relations = long term How it all ends = hopes and prayers

Of everyone is dying to make a deal, then where are the deals?

Zimbabwe caved…. Now we are really winning!

Other countries start to take their money out when they lose trust in America. That is very hard to recover from.

That’s a great example. The only way tariffs could work is if they are targeted to a specific country and industry. Then domestic businesses could find alternate suppliers to support their move to more American made manufacturing. This idea of tariffs on everything from everywhere is a perfect recipe to tank the economy. Long term damage will be done to American brands, world leadership and trade relationships. Trust is hard to rebuild, but Trump cares nothing about that.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I agree with Rand Paul above. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Trump has weakened the cybersecurity capacity of the federal government and has plans to further weaken our capacity to protect power grids, water systems, elections, etc from attacks by Russia, Iran or China. This is exactly what Putin would want. What is the rationale for cutting cybersecurity jobs when that is the number one security threat we face daily? If it is an illogical act, then the explanation leads to your conclusion. https://www.cybersecuritydive.com/news/trump-scrutiny-cisa-cuts/744619/ The Trump administration is facing renewed scrutiny from Congress and other officials following reports that massive job cuts are coming to the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency as early as this week. CISA is expected to slash up to 1,300 jobs through a combination of terminations and other incentives, according to a report by CBS News. The agency is expected to initially offer buyouts, according to Axios, but later expand the list to send out “reduction in force” notices depending on how many workers accept buyouts. The administration has come under heavy criticism by national security and cyber industry analysts in recent months, who warned additional cuts at CISA will severely weaken the U.S. at a time of heightened nation-state threats from China and Russia. “The proposed reductions to CISA will weaken U.S. cybersecurity at a time when cyber threats are only increasing,” Michael Daniel, president and CEO of the Cyber Threat Alliance, said via email.

China will be the big winner from all this stupidity. Japan and S Korea are already negotiating a trade deal with them. Europe is turning to China. As Trump alienates us from every country except Russia, China has ambassadors reaching out everywhere telling those nations - “If you don’t like the unpredictable USA, we have whatever you need and we can get it to you, let’s make a deal”. This is a lifeline saving Chinas economy. Xi is smiling.

Tariffs working in reverse.

Here is a new one coming. Shipping madness.See thread.

The one constant factor is why the old orange man does what he does is that it is always consistent with the interests of daddy Putin. What are the odds of that happening randomly?

Look at the stupidity of trade imbalance being Trumps concern. USA imports lots of cheap oil from Canada, a nation with small population. With their small population, trade will never be equal between us and them. Yet in Yrumps feeble little brain, he thinks that means USA is losing. He is a psychopath with no restraints this time and this is just the beginning.

No republican can explain it. No economist can explain it. Trump and his cast of clowns give bogus “rebuild American manufacturing” answer. MAGA believes the Great Deal is coming to fix America. In the end, it’s a senile old man who wants to feel powerful. He can’t be powerful unless he make others feel pain. More pain the better he feels.

Are we in the 25th Amendment territory? That’s a serious question as any sane president would not be celebrating the beauty of the loss of trillions of dollars of wealth from millions of Americans. He seems to be completely detached from reality.

For those interested in the math behind the Trump tax, they didn’t even do the math right. I guess that par for the course with this clown show. https://www.axios.com/2025/04/06/trump-tariffs-error-aei The formula used by the Trump administration to levy reciprocal tariffs contains a serious math error that over-inflates the impact by about a factor of four, economists at the American Enterprise Institute said. Why it matters: The conservative think tank says the error led to tariff rates massively higher than they should have been to achieve the goals the administration sought.