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Yeah this is kind of where I'm at. I watched him in college (Alabama fan - they shut him down, but they shut everyone down then) and he was an absolute bruiser who just got stronger as the games went on. No idea if he has that still, but there's no way that he was in an optimal situation in jax playing with bortles and for boney maroney. If he'd take a reasonable contract, i'd bring him in. Wouldnt it be nice to have him on the bench of the #1 guy went down?

You're really stanning for the NFL here. Weird. Any other mega corps you like to run out and defend on the internet? If you go to a crowded noisy bar to watch a game, some portion of your decision, or at least that of normal people, is because they want to be in a crowded noisy bar. The dialog of the game is secondary to the atmosphere of the bar. I get it, and did that for years after I left Buffalo, and before I got DTV, To your last point, if it's a 2 minute bit at halftime, sure. I'll change the channel. If it's a constant badgering, then why bother at all. In that case they're making as clear as they can that if you're not a preening 'anti-racist' then they don't want you as a customer. Lots of companies have bet wrong and gone out of business in the past, dramatically misjudging the market and their customers. The NFL is not immune from this, no matter how much you want it to be. Again, Roger and his merry band of idiots seem much more concerned with what their neighbors on the UES think than what their core audience does. Guess what Roger, those people don't watch the NFL. Their help might, but they don't. You know this has me thinking, some enterprising eastern european streamer could make a nice mark with a service that strips the games down to just plays. I'd pay $5 a game for that or some nominal figure. That way, no BS, less wasted time, and best of all, no virtue signalling. Instead of forming my Sunday around it, I could watch a 30 minute stream at 5p

2 points 1) No, it's just not that important to me. If you make it difficult, i'll route around it and find something else. It's entertainment, not life. If the message is "we hate you, but you should still consume our product" then yeah, I know where i'm not welcome, and will walk away 2) ESPN Magazine committed suicide to please a bunch of people who were never going to read it or subscribe to ESPN.com, or even know where it is on their cable lineup. It's fine, it saves me $60 a year and I can dial back the script blocking in my browser since espn.com is one of the worst big sites on the internet for tracking and nonsense

Easy for me - if the pregame, commentary during the game, halftime, and highlight shows become nothing but social commentary and basically make the actual game a sidebar to the SERIOUS ADULT CONVERSATION that they are having at us, then yeah i'll go for a hike instead. Do you remember ESPN magazine? it used to be great. Slowly, then quickly, it morphed into yelling at white people about racial issues, and barely anything at all about sports. I cancelled my espn.com sub because of it. It has not been missed. ESPN chose the get woke go broke route, but made all the right people pleased with them. A shame those people dont watch ESPN, as reflected in their long term ratings decline. You can only piss on your customers for so long before they decide they would rather not be pissed on.

wait until the struggle sessions start at your place of work HELLO I AM DORQUEMADA. I AM GUILTY OF ORIGINAL SIN FOR I AM WHITE AND THEREFORE A RACIST. I PROMISE TO BE AN ANTI-RACIST, WHICH I UNDERSTAND MEANS WHATEVER YOU TELL ME IT MEANS ON A GIVEN DAY.

This is our Commissioner's attempt to appease both sides. It's going to do 1 thing, it'll unite both sides in pointing at him and laughing, so that's a victory of sorts i guess

Wow great contribution to the discussion. Is it that hard to believe that someone might not care about the NBA anymore? With no sports on TV i've found other things to do with my time. I'm not exactly alone in that. Also, if you have an alternative timeline for the NBA strike than please, share Yeah I work for a very large global telecom and they've been hammering us with this for months yet the leadership (all white males except 1 person, out of like 20+) aren't giving up their seats at the table. I'd take this all a lot more seriously if the people who keep telling me it's a crisis acted themselves like it's a crisis. After all they're the only ones who can actually make changes. Forcing us to watch a bunch of poorly produced videos and having mandatory struggle sessions aren't going to change any hearts or minds

I mean obviously not. A white kid born to educated parents in a wealthy suburb with good schools is starting life on 2nd base compared to a black kid born to a single mom in a crappy urban setting with bad school. That really isnt up for debate. What is though are the policy prescriptions to resolve the issue. We've had the Great Society & Equal Opportunity programs in place for generations now, and have spent trillions trying to move the needle. Spending trillions more (reparations!) is just good money after bad, and is pretty much like treating a heroin addict with more heroin.

Agreed. Also, i find it telling that the NBA 'strike' basically lasted what, 18 hours? None other than Barack Obama told them they were playing a weak hand, and it seems that most of the players understood this. Hell, I didn't even realize the NBA was playing again because i got bored with that garbage a long time ago. We're in a really different world than a year ago, and while there would be all sorts of gnashing of teeth and rending of garments by ESPN and the deep thinkers in other media outlets, i'm not sure average fan would care all that much. I mean i'd miss it, but not enough to have my opinions and beliefs dictated to me by a bunch of primadonnas and their enablers. I do believe if I were in charge of a team or the league i'd just PATCO the players and say you don't want to play? Great, we'll find someone else who will. The extremely bloated egos on these people to think that if a bunch of players and owners DEMAND CHANGE that all of a sudden cops will stop shooting people and/or 'peaceful protesters' will stop burning down minority owned business, it's just crazy. what's happening now is the culmination of a cold civil war that's been going on for some time, not because some guy OD'd while getting choked out by cops

Meh. Tastes change, people find other things to do. Your father probably had a similar thought about network television in the 80s. Now the only time i have network television on is for local news, and only then if there's a weather crisis

The Prodigal Goomba returns!

Where's Dunkirk Don when we need him? Not the hero we need, but certainly the hero we deserve

gross but yeah probably, i need to change my pricing model

What I don't get here is that Snyder, as an extremely wealthy man, could afford to hire the sorts of prostitutes that cater to extremely wealthy men, and make cheerleaders look like yesterday's leftovers. Besides his obvious difficulty in making good decisions, why on earth would he creep on his employees like this? Besides, dude, just go out to the internet and find pictures of women that don't work for you. It's not difficult, but if you're unsure I can act as an IT consultant to help you on your journey for only $7500 an hour

I'll get out over my skis here and suggest that a disproportionate percentage of NFL players are from the States that are just entering the worst of COVID right now, so these guys have family and friends in the middle of it, and might be legitimately concerned about getting sick and/or bringing the 'vid back to gramma in Alabama. I'm in USNY like a lot of you, and we're certainly past the peak now, and certainly over the shock of it. I can tell you, i have family in the deep south and they spent a lot of time mocking New York over this, not so much now

must be a hell of a thanksgiving table

See thats why you're twobillsdrive forums poster Buffalo716 and not Bill Belichick

Bellicheat has seen the future and knows exactly how many games he hast to lose in order to draft Trevor. spoiler: he falls a few spots in the draft so BB can win exactly 6 games and still get him

There's just so much about trading up for TJ Graham and not taking Wilson that is dumb and wrong, it's hard to know where to start

This would have been infinitely preferable to the timeline we're in

There were very few Jewish slave owners, and very few Jews at all in the US, particularly in the South in the Civil War era. Most Jewish immigration happened in the late 19th, early 20th century, and was concentrated in the big NE cities like NYC & Philly. My own ancestors came from Russia in 1899. Besides that, Jewish immigrants were generally dirt poor and almost none of them would have been farmers as Jews were largely prohibited from owning land in Europe. It's also important to remember that Jews weren't even considered 'white' in the US until post WW2, and would not have been welcome in the antebellum South. There were a couple small enclaves of jews in Mobile and New Orleans, but that has more to do with their history as French colonial outposts where France was for the most part more tolerant of Jews than England. Jewish emmigrants were also dirt poor and lived in terrible conditions. The highest population density ever recorded in the US was in the Lower East Side of Manhattan in the early 1900s. My grandfather lived in a 1 room 'studio' there with 12 others, all his family. They all worked in sweatshops and several of them didnt make it to adulthood. It wasn't slavery per se but it wasn't the 1% existence that bigots like to ascribe to Jews either.

I'd put Sojourner Truth on the $20 bill if it were up to me, preferably holding a pistol

Perhaps some statues across the South to the men who didn't secede and fought for the Union. "Tories of The Hills" is a book about some of those people. I dont really see it being available on Amazon but if you're interested it's in some libraries

There was a big fight during the constitutional convention over Slavery. Lots of abolitionists wanted Slavery outlawed immediately, and obviously the southern states (though there were plenty of slaves in Northern states too, just not to the degree or of the type in the South) refused, and said they would not join the new nation. There are other factors that caused the Civil war besides Slavery. That was the obvious proximate cause and the moral rallying cry, but there were substantial economic reasons as well, including that the North was rapidly industrializing and competing directly with England, while the South was continuing to act more like a resource colony of England pitting the regions against eachother economically. None of this, of course, should be construed as a defense of the Confederacy but the actual story is a little more complicated

Not disagreeing with anything you're saying Doc, except for that well under 10% of people living in the Confederacy States owned slaves. The average white family in the South didn't own slaves, and some (look up Winston County, Alabama) did not secede from the Union at all because they didn't want to go to war to prop up the 1% of that day, and they were right regardless of any retrograde beliefs they may have held otherwise