colin

i reserve my right to be a negative nacy. i also am quite happy to admit when im wrong to the upside.

ya, you make a great point. it's unknowable, so therefor it's the fault of all elements equally. that's as much as an assumption as the one i'm making, except i'm basing my opinion on what i'm seeing, not what can't be seen. we have the biggest or second biggest investment on the D in the nfl, 111mm cap as well as the lion's share of our high picks. our HC is a Defensive guru. our d has been utter cheeks, and our d lead to us getting trucked out of the playoffs ever time we exited with josh allen as our qb. our O moves the ball like a hot knife through butter, and then they stop doing what worked and fail miserably, calling awful shotgun runs that the d has down pat and baffling redzone plays. the coaches can't explain why we stopped doing what worked at the presser after. the same squad that had the team fall totally flat vs cinci at home in the playoffs, and the same squad who gave us the 13 second abortion, like, what extra evidence do you need to tell you that our coaching is doing poorly? do you need a signed notarized affidavit from the coaches saying they don't know what they are doing and feel underqualified? the vast majority of our teams' success is because josh allen is an insane talent at the most important position. diggs is a bonafide super star at wr as well. dropping a game to the mac jones pats and not looking any better vs tb and nyg is pretty plain evidence that something is rotten in denmark, but you are too paralyzed with uncertainty to come up with a conclusion that's pretty well a common narrative around the nfl.

I remember thinking daboll sucked at times, I was kinda right but more wrong. I also thought Dorsey was pretty close to dabs in his first year, I suppose I was correct. I did not realize how not bad our o has been, nor how absolutely trash our d has been. I know alpha thinks it's all Dorsey, but clearly it is mcd. He built the team d heavy, he calls the d, and they suck balls. Maybe a better oc makes us greatest show on turf level, but an extra punt forced by the d, and two extra possessions for the o (meaning the d gets off the field sooner across all drives) and wed have zero to two total losses, as bad as it has been overall. That's crazy

we don't seem to run any pre nap read quick plays targeting kincaid, diggs, and cook. well, we do, and we score, and then we shun them to the netherworld. if d's will just play deep zone to take away the allen run and deep pass from us, then we can run some of the stuff that new england ran for ever. technically we have the same offensive system they used when they were great, but we refuse to run effectively and hate uptempo fast plays because it scores too fast or something. instead of having this constant attack the whole field and pray that the protection holds up and josh doesn't take the bait stuff, we can just run more deterministic stuff at least some times.

we spend 111MM cap on our d, highest in the nfl outside of pittz (thanks the athletic for the data). we also have more high picks on d than on O. if our defensive HC can't make something worthwhile out of what we have given the above, then both he and the gm are cheeks and need to go. they have every chance to right the ship, and did some some improve vs cinci, but we can lose 2, maybe 3 more games all season, and i think we need at least one win in the post season, for them to not get ridden out of town on a rail.

you make a strong point here, and anything is possible especially w allen at qb, so i will continue watching! that said, im now of the opinion that daboll was a problem, just less of one than the rest of our staff. dorsey was under dabloll the whole time anyhow, not like a sea change happened.

sure, but it's more a comment about how trash the players we added in the offseaon are. hines and harty and ford combine to make what hopkins makes. even if hines was playing, we aren't getting jack out of these guys. i bet if we had hopkins we'd have at least two more wins. instead we have gadget guys who aren't good and we don't use anyhow.

our low dollar guys seem to perform at the same level as our expensive guys. rookie DK is way better than 10++ non catching tight end DKnox, rookie shakir is better than anyone at wr not on a rook contract with a name other than diggs, late additin vet joeseph is better than settle, or ford. it's a joke what we do w our picks and cap.

crazy how he was just sitting out there and is better than more or less any other line man we have in that game. what the hell is the FO doing?

i hate watching what this team does in losses so much that it kills the joy of being a fan. for that reason alone, i want the front office gone. in reality, i think if we miss the playoffs, or if we are one and done in the playoffs, the whole squad gets sent packing. the biggest knock on rex was his silly d required one of like 3 vets at each of 7 positions or else his precious scheme falls apart. well, we decided to pony up long dollars for two older injured safeties, highly drafted rookies can't get burn, and we dropped picks and dollars galore into our d line where most of the talent is on the bench because we rotate so heavy, yet linval joeseph coming off the couch at age 36 was our best lineman. this situation kinda reminds me of the aaron rogers GB packers. everyone said aaron's attitude or whatever is why they never won more than 1 chip in spite of hitting crazy reg season wins and making the nfc chip game so often, but im starting to think aaron just saw how his FO couldn't pull their heads out of their butts and he carried them (in a weak division/conference mind you) further than they should have gone. im starting to suspect we are seeing the same situation w allen on our team.

nonsense. having such high EPA per drive means the tools are there for success, but the coaching is not delivering. having predictable play calls is a coaching problem. having players make the same preventable mistakes in the same situations is a coaching issue -- either coach the player to not make the mistake, or change what you are doing so that tendency isn't as glaring. spacing on routes is a scheme coaching issue. i'll make it simple if it wasn't before -- if you have capable players and get bad results, you have bad coaching. if you have less capable players and get good results, you have good coaching. we have plenty of capability on O, same roster even with more talent (Dalton) than the prior season. our results are much worse, so either all the players forgot how to play, or the coaches are being lame and predictable. the data points are quite obvious, high epa, same players killed it on o before, current o sucks, even vs weak ds. on d it's maybe even worse.

i saw the RB open by a mile underneath, say 5 yards up the field. no shot he doesn't gain a first, and likely more on that. the conceit of this is, allen ignores the flat, and we have bad spacing, so the d just has to play zone vs the deeper routes and wait for a mistake. we make it too easy for them.

we are just too stupid as a team. our offense is not run any any way that sets things up. we have a bunch of different player groupings and formations, but they just tip off what we want to do. we destroy people out of under center formations, but much prefer to use shotgun. we give up on the run as soon as we get stopped on two poorly run shotgun sprint draws. we have goofy spacing, guys literally tripping over each other near the line, and it seems like harty, davis, and sherf just don't get open or catch the ball well. the biggest fixable issue to me tho, is josh keeps making the same mistakes. partly that because our spacing and such aren't good, but his pick was a horrible decision and he could have just avoided it. it should be really easy for a coach who's worked w allen his entire career to point this out and get him to stop, but we just don't want to do that it seems.

dude, this. collinsworthless was saying "they keep calling that the safety is coming, or (whatever else the cue they kept saying was). im not sure how they can always tell" which means they scouted the bills and saw how OBVIOUS what we are doing is. on the flip side, we seemed to have tremendous issues figuring out protections and and not having guys run into each other on O. mcd get the d a bit better after the first two drives, and they even had some solid outings, but we scored two flipping tds all day, so allowing them to have 2 lay ups to start the game is just not on. both our o and d are playing way below their abilities, but when our d has a weak player (dodson) or some kind of other issue (rushing 6 on 3rd and 10 with no one touching the qb at all) and can be read presnap like an open book, it's clear we don't have our head on straight as a defensive football team and that is what mcd makes millions for.

EVERY TIME

while i find what you say initially offputting and pollyanna, as a fellow NJ bills fan, i must consider it. you are, mathematically, correct. as bad as we ahve looked, these are all one score losses where we left a ton on the table. if allen, for example, just pulls his head out and throws to the under guy instead of the guaranteed pick guy, we have a strong chance of winning this game. i doubt we get there, but boy would it be great to have a 2021 phoenix like rise form where we are

the first contract was 3y 51mm, 17 a year, same as chandy jones got. the cap moves since really messed us up. so, we had a thread about how montez sweat cost a second and got 24mm per year. in all honestly, that was a much much better contract than what we did for von.

von they stay with until they don't ahve to tre is gone knox has a chance to earn his spot back

he cares and tries crazy hard on game day. im not sure what his off season and week to week stuff looks like, but ill bet he is not as dialed in as brady was, for exmpale. he keeps making the same friggen mistakes, and in the same situations. he makes terrible decisions leading to turnovers at least once a game. and i'm not talking about forcing the ball to win, i mean another guy was open and he just forces it out of frustration. at the end of the day, i blame coaches for that, but it isn't possible that josh is doing absolutely everything he can to prepare and these things keep happening.

this is all coaching. if you want a player to make better pre snap reads, you coach him on that and call plays that support that. for some reason, our offense thinks we should throw deep balls. short, not fast, not strong handed guys running around with little separation is not a great recipe for low % throws. what really makes me want to run the front office out of town on rails is how just stupid this is. we spend money on harty, hines, sherf, a full back, knox, and aging vets on D, but we insist on running this o that has our qb dropping low % bombs on 3rd and long while trailing. if we are gonna do that, why did we not put some of the harty/hines/whatever money for players we might actually use? hopkins coulda been signed for some of these losers' salary, and him streaking outside the numbers is a scary sight for opponents. instead it's pizza finger davis and harty, the fastest kid in 4th grade, streaking while covered getting the bombs. there is no organization or reasoning to how this team is constructed, now how the plays are called or how the players are coached.

We went heavy jumbo in the first half in 2nd and 2, cook took the ball quickly (no delay) to the left side and converted easily and honestly had a shot at gainer if he broke another tackle. Our runs after that were delays vs zone so the entire d had their eyes on the ball. Our problem is we are a stupid team

Now we are laughing at that prediction because it sounds Pollyanna. Sad

Coming into this game, they showed Allen lead the NFL in TDS, had the highest completion percentage, and top 5 passing yards and rating. After the game, we lead the NFL in epa per offensive drive, and point differential. The bad results and our barely 500 record points to coaching and coaching alone. This team lacks confidence, has no consistency, and makes the same predictable mistakes over and over. 3rd and 10 option routes outside the numbers to midget wrs is insane. We see our d get smoked by tempo and quick passing vs our zone, so we attack another team playing soft zone with delayed handoffs out of shotgun and slow developing plays. If we miss the playoffs, the whole front office has to go. If we are one and done in the playoffs, they whole front office has to go, Frankly, walking papers should have been mass printed after 13 seconds.

This organization is just packed full of losers

The holes on this team and the coaching is cheeks. Time for a new front office