colin

im a big roman fan, but with the titans game we saw more of the limits of his system than necessarily of the QB (there is that too though). the reason why a pro set standard O and a balanced 4-3 is the standard NFL scheme is because it is less interdependent on everything else compared to these more "gimmick" systems. i do think with a more well rounded QB/roster (maybe LJax grows his skill set into his 3rd year like we hope allen does) roman has it in him to create more advantages for his O. also, the rock paper scissors nature of the NFL just never ends. titans run a 1960s O and even sick modern Ds aren't able to defend against it. while i wish we beat Hou and KC and had a home AFC chip game, i'd be worried sick about us stopping that running attack.

i'd laugh so hard if a conviction vacates some bonus he's due in his contract when the browns cut him.

he sucks. he is physically weak. not built for the nfl. his attitude was something i figured could be forgiven if he could ball, but now that he can't it doesn't exactly help things.

going top to bottom on skill talent, Motor would be a sick back up to lynch, knox would get some burn but obv not start, brown would get a good number of snaps and if they could figure out what to do w him bease would get in as the 4th or 5th wr. even tho we made sick strides from last season, it is kinda shocking how much of a skill position deficit we run.

that's quite the comparison. difference on the pitch: russ will extended plays leading to long arcing bombs to a bevy of wideouts (wasn't harvin on their team that year or the next?). Seattle also had a kinda monster O line and a better run game, much better skill talent. allen seems to either hit surgical mid range ropes, or bides time to find them, and struggles with the deeper stuff (some of that is WR talent, but some of that is a result of his shortcomings). pretty similar production tho. also, russ will was 25 and had time a pretty solid big10 program ahead of that. good example!

i voted both because the poll wasn't done with radio buttons and im sorry but im basically a monster and an agent of chaos.

assuming we could have built our exact team otherwise the same way, but kept gilmore and watkins (two top ten draft picks recently!!) we'd have smoked houston and i think woulda beat KC. i think we are really close TBH. cooper and a passrusher would put us over the top. i can't wait for free agency, the draft, and then opening day. hate this part of the year.

over all we are in solid shape, but what we are missing is GLARING. we just have no weapons on O. We could use an OT upgrade, we need an RB2 but there are plenty of those, and dropping a wad of cash on a pass rusher would really help the team, but we ABSOLUTELY need weapons. bean was looking at AB, OBJ, so im pretty certain he will be riding hard to drop like 20 a year on a star WR. that single addition alone would have had us facing KC after spanking the texans, and maybe we even win there.

throwing the candy and saying eat a bag of richards was honestly hilarious and a move i think others will use to fun gag joke effect. so -- does AB have a drug problem anyone knows about? richie has/had mental issues and drug problems, if AB doesn't do drugs it's honestly impressive that he can be that crazy and have been that successful. if he doesn't blow through all his money he will be bucking the odds in shocking fashion.

i think the point is they only put in a minimum standard for athletes in 2011 (a shockingly low standard at that).

he gets pushed around bad, and basically freelances to get up the field. this got him a bunch of tfl and sacks, but cost as well.

sick work MAJB! given that bean was involved in AB and OBJ trade talks, i think it's clear he knows he needs a monster WR, and is willing to pay. if green or cooper are available to us, i think he's 100% in the running. i also think we can two or three of top flight WR sick TE (hoops) top flight DE solid/sick RT in free agency, or get a top one of one of them, and decent upgrade in the other three. we could do this by front loading contracts by having first year salary guaranteed so it hits now while we have lots of cap room, clearing up room later for us to sign Tre, milano, dawkins, and then later on Edmunds and allen. i could see bean trading up to get the WR he really wants (or perhaps DE, but i don't think there are any who would be available) in the draft, but im always concerned about a WR coming in and making an impact as a rookie, and that's the single position which would change our team the most. RB and CB tend to be good out the box.

im torn because he was productive and keeping our guys makes the team better, but big dollars on a guy who is just not good vs the run ain't it. i kinda think the nfl is less obsessed with the super duper DT like they were 10 or so years ago. Suh, marcel, guys like that had teams drooling and guys who were not even as good as them were taken with top 10 or 20 picks regularly, but lately it seems like there is less emphasis on paying a big chubby dude on D top dollars because there is the question of how long that pace can be kept up. darnold, cox, those guys are the exception, but they are every down monsters who have never shown any true weakness in their game.

he may be a jerk, and he is injury prone, but his (admittedly dumb sounding statements) came at a heated moment after a loss and just shows where his head is at. he wants to win. one thing about him, yes his lack of huge sacks is a concern, is that of all the top flight guys (i figure there are 4 of them, maybe five hitting FA this season if they don't get tagged) he most fits into and most shows being happy with being 1/11. he's gonna want around 20MM per year of course, but he seems pretty happy to do the dirty work, take on lead blockers, drop, keep a controlled edge, as well as chase the qb and stick with it. his speed and slightly below jumbo size doesn't seem to hit him in the run game. he also plays hard and dirty and injured, which is exactly what we need. i'm still not saying he's our best guy, or even who they want or would be willing to sign with us, but McBean have shown they want size speed aggressive athletes in the front 7, look at who they had in carolina and how they are building up buffalo. give me hooper, cooper, clowney, get another WR in the draft (maybe even trade up) and either sign or draft an RT to compete and draft an RB2 and SAM and all the things that let us down vs houston are gone. no more 3rd and long converts, no more qb's running past the edge, and we have talent on the outside on O to actually match up and we don't go turtle when our RB1 is on the pine. ya, that's a disgusting front 4 and while i think it would lead to more sacks what it would really do is lead to more turnovers

he's not the only one i'd target, but this guy on our D in place of shak or murph would be like throwing a turbo charger on it. harrison coming back to make the DT position better, and Edmunds growing up more in the NFL would be awesome. also, houghs isn't going to be around for too much longer, clowney could fill the gap after say 2 years there.

a top notch pass rusher and an off season installing a tackle focused approach (just a small difference, i think it can be done) and we are looking at a 2001 tampa bay type D

Our wrs really are cheeks. End of the season playoff game and they don't have it in them to make plays

Titans are beasts up front on both sides, but they can't cover jack. Kinda not getting enough pass rush too

MR8, great work! i don't think we will or should spend that kind of money on a RT tho -- one good T seems to be enough for the teams in the playoffs, but pass rush and skill position impact players is an absolute requirement. i think we will draft a T, maybe sign another cheaper guy to compete and hopefully kick ford inside and let spain walk. i like your plan, but i'd want a free agent WR as well as a drafted one, and the one thread on here has me wanting Hooper for 10MM and cutting smith and kroft to cover it (leaving hooper, sweeney and knox). green/cooper, brown, bease w motor and hooper is a nasty base. cooper and brown w hooper and knox and motor for 12 packages is also a scary sight.

so two things 1. while a couple of great O's run real high tech schemes (KC comes to mind, but fat andy is a wizard at this) if you look at teams like NE, Baltimore, and even Houston, you see really really similar plays run out of several formations, and different plays run out of the exact same formation. the exact same formation lets you make the D pick their poison (OBV) but running the exact same play out of different formations gives you free reps (without the D knowing) at your bread and butter. we just MAKE ME CRAZY seeing all these goofy mish mash mix ups without any results. we go max protect w smith and the fullback, but we have yet to run effectively out of it, so we ain't fooling anyone. the fact that we waited until the post season to figure out ways to get the RB the ball on screens and allen the ball on sweeps was sad. the biggest issue we have on O is that when we have success, it isn't repeatable because we are simply not consistent. 2. i watch a lot of analytic videos and all 22 stuff. i like what these guys do and it's interesting, but something has always bothered me about them, and i couldn't quite figure it out. they tend to be coach's pets. i remember guys (often related to the coach, or a coach anyhow) on the team would say "if we ran it right how it was drawn up we'd have made that first". this is when the whole friggen team know the opposition had a drop on that play and it wouldn't work. these analytic guys just sort of take for granted execution at every level, and then key in one or two things which they say made the difference. that's fine, but they miss the plot when you have a TE blocking a pro bowl rusher on 3rd and long, or you don't have an outside WR who can get open or whatever. PFF are the biggest squad of never played and just make up nerdery dorks ever.

every opening drive would be a run heavy score, followed by garbage on O i think dabol is similar, except we didn't do that opening drive until the playoff game, where we do weird and wacky stuff that surprises the d, but stink otherwise due to lack of talent and also the o doesn't run any plays well because we have no identity. i need to stop, i'm on a dabol crusade!

sadly very very true. knox was going too fast/too far upfield and missed dude, but morse literally just didn't see him. i'm a broken record on this, but i'm convinced our overwrought goofy O has guys trying to learn and thus do too much, without any bread and butter plays everyone on the team can execute perfectly. on D, our tackling issues give me pause at times, but frazier has them in the position to win the vast majority of the time. the soft cover on 3rd and 18 (simple enough call) woulda had everyone stopped short, and that blitz prior to the RB pass which killed us was blitzed perfectly and woulda stopped them COLD. how many times a game do we have our O in a position to make a great play like that where it looks like our players understand their assignments and are in a position to make them?

allen lost the plot for a bit late in the game, you could see a crazed look on his face. he was putting the world on his back, partly because his teammates were letting him down save motor (brown and duke each dropping two huge balls both early and late in the game, bad line play, etc), and partly because his coaches were putting it all on him (empty set on first down in overtime? that goofy package of lee smith, the full back, and our rb all going out in routes w max protect, did we run out of that effectively at all? the d knew what was happening the whole time). most of the players on O were worse tho, especially down the stretch. the blocking was terrible and i don't think it's just our players being trash, missing the RDE totally on 3rd down by the OG, OT, and RB leading to the total disaster is on coaching as well. being predictable and not practicing consistency is the problem. most complicated O ever, and we can't execute a sweep with a 3 to 1 advantage on blockers. teams like new england don't have that happen.

so why would you not take the median of coaches? this is just asinine. like, the top player on every team makes more than the head coach. the top several players on ever team makes more than the head coach. if you take the average player and compare to the average coach (which is not the head coach, but is taken from all of the coaches on the team including guys making like 40k a year) you see the player is way way ahead. honest question: are you being disingenuous or do you not understand this?

LOL, wrong. lol you dork. why not compare average to average? also -- is that coach, or head coach? you know there are quality control coaches, position coaches, etc etc, right? i have you trying to obfuscate to cover up your trash, and your roommate (the other guy from the birdcage movie) saying i'm the one moving the goal posts! no you didn't you SJW footwasher, you just whined about "the work force" vs "the management" like this is some kind of "of mice and men" dust bowl industry. what % of head coaches should be black and why? that was the simple question in my post, and you didn't answer it because your weepy fem spot got all hot and bothered so you had to virtue signal.