Doc

True, but if there had been any evidence she was forced into having sex, he'd have been charged with rape. And despite her age, she was held responsible for her actions in trying to portray herself as being legal. She couldn't hide behind "I'm just a child, I don't know any better and am therefore not responsible." Sure the law accounts for my doubts. If a 15 year old doesn't look like an 18 year old, the "mistake in age" wouldn't apply now, would it?

Like they did last night.

FIFY

That was almost 3 hours before the Capitol was breached. And 45 minutes before Trump even gave his speech.

Reid did take McNabb and the Eagles to the SB.

Yes BUT WHAT ABOUT their lies.

They worried their war stocks won't carry them through retirement?

Do they still think Hunter's laptop is Russian disinfo?

And I'm just saying you could say the same about anyone on TV.

So they can call down for that but not other things.

No. The answer is: showering with your daughter.

Who is the arbiter of this? We have numerous celebrities who have platforms spewing their political views who probably have even less of a correct or coherent philosophy...

They know. They just like to lie about things.

Hall fumbles.

Consensual meaning it was mutually agreed upon and no one was forced. What got him off the roster was the public outcry because of the way it was framed and the timing of it, all of which was intentional. Six months later the accuser and her lawyer and everyone who vilified him has egg on their faces. And I doubt any 15 year old would pass for 18. That's the point: she looked like she could be 18.

QB rating is a joke to begin with. It also doesn't take into account what he can do with his legs.

Going for the FG was the right decision. The Cardinals hadn't scored a TD on offense since 2-1/2 minutes left in the 1st half. If it had been only a yard, maybe go for it.

You said "his side of the story" like it was just his word and nothing else. When the truth is they investigated fully and found the story (his, hers and everyone else's) to be that she lied about her age in order to have sex consensual with college guys. I don't think her original motive was to get them into legal trouble and I doubt any of them knew she was 17. It was basically kids looking to hook up. Then she went and fabricated at least Araiza's part in the whole thing, likely because she got caught by her parents and Araiza was an NFL prospect and had deep pockets when they went public since he had just made the team. And if she had been 15 or 16 and still did what she did, no, she still shouldn't be protected. Again being young shouldn't excuse you from the consequences of your bad decisions. The only thing I'll say is that if she had been 15 or 16 years old, I think it would be easier to spot. But if you say you can tell the difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old, especially at a college party where they're saying they're 18, you're lying.

It was never really alive.

He hasn't been able to in over 2 years. And they've had 3 drafts to get players they want. And if it's just heckling, Jones should consider himself lucky. He can use some of the $108M he's made to stuff his ears...

Doubtful. In 40 states in the country, like NYS, 17 is legal and we never would have even known about this incident. In several of the states where the age of consent is 18, there exist exceptions for mistake in age or close in age ("Romeo and Juliet"), likely because the age of consent is so high. He was in (his home state of) California where mistake in age is a valid defense, so... Bottom line, the law wasn't mean to protect someone like her. Just because she's 17 doesn't mean she gets excused for her actions.

Daboll will be gone mid-season. Schoen should also be shown the door for giving Jones $40M/year.

There was no crime. Hence no charges, much less conviction. No one "tricked" her into going to a college party, lying about her age and demanding sex from guys. It was just another 5 guys to add to her "body count."

Did someone (Josh) say what part of the play he hurt his hand? He hit the defender's helmet with it and then the ground.

He didn't. It's his interpretation of Araiza's defense.