Bill from NYC

To be fair, the Bills have also wasted countless first round picks on running backs, not just the secondary.

Do you think that they would be strangers? You must hate the RICO laws too, no? Let's can agree to disagree, shall we? I dislike murderers. I have seen enough of their work and don't view these darlings from an abstract, lofty, sanctimonious perch.

I totally don't understand your logic. Are you concerned or angered that the gang banger is still sitting in jail? If so, why?

I have to step back because I'm getting choked up. Oh the horror, to inconvenience gang bangers!!! Let's simply agree to disagree. We might as well because I am just not so fond of gangsters and other killers.

Yeah, damn those state attorneys for trying to keep a gangster in jail, right?

So what? He is making it harder for a gangster to be sprung from jail. Does this really bother you?

I don't know....Ducasse might be the worst player in the NFL.

An article in Sports Illustrated claims that Jim Kiick has "holes in his brain." I am not going to pretend that I know what this means but it sure sounds bad.

I respectfully disagree. We drafted a defensive back instead of a possible franchise quarterback in round 1. I think that the real question is whether or not doing so will result in the Bills winning football games. If White is good or even very good, it won't matter if we continue to lose.

I had the same reaction. I would strongly suggest that anybody who has not yet seen this movie should watch it asap. And I strongly agree with you last sentence. It also changed the way I look at the game but I'm not even sure how, or what can be done about it. These guys are lightening fast genetic mutants and they are going to continue to get injured. And you know, Jim Kiick should not be living in squalor.

Thanks, your answer makes sense. Having a quarterback in place also makes drafting early defensive backs more palatable. Would you happen to know if they invested much in free agent DBs during the time period that you mention? Also, what was their record both before and after the 2016 draft? It makes me wonder if it was productive to virtually dedicate a draft to the secondary. Yes, it does concern me that McDermott used his first pick in Buffalo on a corner because of the number of times I have seen it fail. It was great that he picked up a 2018 first round pick. I am thrilled by this and hope he doesn't waste it on a DB. We will need to solidify the QB position, the OL, and probably the pass rush by the next draft. Perhaps even WR, who knows? This is true, and the best DB who ever played the game can only cover 1 at a time. And while I fully agree that the secondary should not be ignored, I for one believe that the best way stop opposing offenses is with pressure and sacks.

He traded up to get health club membership.

I don't follow the Panthers, but would you mind explaining their 2016 draft to me? Why did they use 3 of their first 4 picks on defensive backs? Also, how did doing so translate in terms of wins/losses? Thanks.

Agreed. I never had any issues with him and he did know his football.

OK, you make some sense here but let me ask you this: Would it ever have been OK to be critical or cynical. Maybe at year 9? Or year 14? Or any other random season? It is virtually impossible to not make the playoffs for 17 years. This league has a salary cap, and bad teams draft first. Like you said, in last 17 years we have had numerous GMs and Head Coaches. Could it be different now? Perhaps but there would seem to be lots of work to do. I suggesting rooting for Kansas City to lose games, and for a sane draft in 2018. This would be a healthy start.

I struggle with this post K-9. I don't think that being critical of obvious mistakes made by the Bills is "investing in negative outcomes." I like to come here and talk Bills Football with posters who are informed about both football and the Bills. It is much more fun to do so when the Bills win. It is not the fault of fans that the Bills are not a good football team. Bills Fans are not to blame for the terrible drafts, year after year. Bills Fans didn't hire Whaley or Rex Ryan. I have SOME faith in the Bills because they fired the above losing duo. And while the draft wasn't quite as bad as usual because of the 2018 pick, I find little reason to be thrilled, but I'm not hoping for bad news, ya know?

Well said. In terms of roster building, what many don't seem to grasp is that a draft isn't successful just because one or two are "good." Plenty of players are good but winning is the goal. That's why it usually takes time to really be able to evaluate a draft. For instance, Gilmore was good. A case could be made that Whitner was good as well but neither translated into winning football games. The absolute best way to build a winning team is through the draft, but it is a process. The Bills historically waste high (often very high) picks on defensive backs and running backs, and they lose football games. Now, Clay and Shady (free agent signings) are the highest paid players and the Bills are losing football games. Whether or not they are 'good" is not the issue. Like I said, Whaley was a rank amateur and had to go. Hopefully Brandon is next. We really do need a new system.

OK e-man, but those numbers are a concern by any stretch. Those two would not, and should not be the highest paid players on virtually any team in the NFL. I am just so glad that they got rid of Whaley!!!

Maybe he won't bother selling it. He can just trade up.

I must admit, having the extra pick really gives Bills Fans something extra to cheer for. And as much as I never want to see injuries, the injury rate in the NFL is 100%. A team can look great, have a few key starters go down, and finish in the bottom 10. McDermott knows this very well, right?

I hear ya John! It would have been a stupid move to draft him at 10 no matter how healthy he was.

What is your point here? Is this your way of telling us that you know a lot more than other posters here? Or, do you think it was a stroke of genius to grab a corner in round 1?

No, in 06 he stayed put and drafted a so-so, smallish defensive back at #8. Then, he traded up, went back into round 1 for a DT that sucked. Not finished, he then spent early 3rd and 4th round picks on defensive backs that were awful. I truly do hope that McDermott is a giant step up from Jauron, or else we could be looking at a 20-25 year playoff drought. I am not thrilled by this draft but it is way to early to condemn or even overly praise it imo.

Do you really consider the above only a slight edge? It looks pretty substantial to me.

No. Look, now that we have an extra 1st round pick we as fans can now root against the Chiefs. This is fun for a Bills Fan, right? If the Bills trade Tyrod they will probably lose every game. Do any of you really want to spend a season like this?