BuffaloRebound

I think Spiller plus our 1st this year and 2nd next year to Houston is more plausible than the Cleveland trade. Wouldn't be surprised if Stevie is traded on draft day, but think Spiller is more likely to be traded. Houston has a lot of pieces already. Spiller and Fitzpatrick would be an upgrade over last year and give them a chance to compete for a playoff spot while Bortles sits for a year.

I can believe Stevie will get traded, but I think if we make this trade it's for Robinson and not Watkins. I think Stevie is worth a 3rd rounder. 3 years and $16m left on his contract for a good #2 WR. So Bills would be trading a 2nd rounder and 3rd rounder to move up 5 spots. That's a lot.

Spiller or Stevie will be traded during the draft.

I'm not. Not crazy to think Mayock, Kiper, Brandt, and other draft experts know more than you and me if for no other reason than who they talk to and interact with on a daily basis.

Us drafting EJ at #16 would be close to the equivalent of Browns taking Carr at #4. Carr is almost universally thought of as a 1st round talent in a very deep draft. EJ was not viewed as a consensus 1st round pick. There was very little risk Manuel was gonna get picked before pick #16. Jets were only team we had to worry about. If Cleveland trades down from #4, decent chance one of Oakland or Minnesota takes him.

I think Carr's gonna be really good. Good chance that we're gonna wish we had a shot at Manziel, Bortles, and Carr come next year.

Doubt the Browns would let anyone know this, but this is why I think it's BS that people think no QB's are going in the top 10. When you like a QB who generally has a 1st round grade, you don't get cute and hope he's there at the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd round. My guess is that Manziel and Bortles are gone by pick #9, with a good shot that Carr is too. I can understand the Texans taking Clowney, but it would be ridiculous for teams like Jax, Cleveland, Oakland, and even Tampa and Minnesota to pass on Manziel, Bortles, and Carr. Bridgewater is also an upgrade over any QB on their rosters.

I think all the top 5 teams interested in a QB (Houston, Jax, Cleveland, Oakland) would prefer trading to bottom of the top 10 to take Manziel, Bortles, or Carr. If Bills want to trade up, there will be opportunities.

Count me in the 'Mack is the true target' camp. Clowney talk is a nice smokescreen, but we aren't giving up next year's 1st rounder. If Mack makes it to Raiders pick, I think Bills trade up.

This is why I'm not buying this. Could see Bills trading up for Clowney if it didn't include next year's 1st rounder but don't see how they'd get up to #1 otherwise. More likely that Whaley trying to lure someone like Atlanta to trade up to #1 with Houston taking a QB at #6, pushing one of the top non-QB's closer to #9.

Highly touted? Manuel wasn't even considered the best QB in a horrible QB draft class. Charlie Casserly, former Redskins and Texans GM, said he would rank Manuel 8th best QB in this draft class. Former Bears GM and long-time scout Greg Gabriel ranks Carr as his #1 QB in this draft. Do you think anyone would give Bills a 1st round draft pick for Manuel? I think we'd be lucky to get a 3rd for our highly touted player who can't stay on the field.

Excellent post, but not sure why we shouldn't consider QB in 1st. Stuff rarely happens the way you plan it will in NFL. If EJ is smart enough to step out of bounds in Cleveland game, maybe we win that game, EJ shows more promise, and we finish with .500 or better record or maybe even make playoffs. But he didn't and we are almost back to Square 1 at QB position. If Carr is available at #9, pull the trigger. Get a 3rd rounder for EJ and move on instead of most likely wasting another year. Carr is a much better prospect than Manuel. Not even close who the better passer is.

Super high on Carr. Wouldn't have any problem with Carr at #9. Trade EJ for 2nd or 3rd rounder. Have a feeling we will be kicking ourselves next year that we passed on Carr and are stuck looking at prospects of drafting an inferior QB next year after EJ struggles again. There's no cookie cutter template for getting your franchise QB. Gotta grab opportunity when it presents itself.

Admittedly didn't see him play that much, but did see the UNC game. Multiple occasions they blitzed him up the middle and his feet looked like they were stuck in concrete and he curled up in the fetal position. Flashbacks to Bledsoe.

Anybody not named Clowney, Mack, Watkins, Evans, Robinson, or Matthews. Since probability of that happening is less than 50%, try like hell to trade down. Start creating a buzz around the QB's. Bring in Bridgewater and Carr for visits. Make teams like Cleveland start sweating that they can wait to take a QB.

Reluctantly agree. Manuel didn't show much last year, but he showed enough where you gotta give him another year. It's not like any of the QB's in this year's draft don't have a lot of questions. I actually think Carr will be the best QB in this draft.

Looks a bit like the Penn State "we fulfilled all our legal obligations" Sandusky response. Interesting that FSU doesn't refute the Assistant AD calling TPD about the matter in January 2013.

If Clowney, Robinson, Matthews, Mack, Watkins, and Evans are all gone, I'd take Cleveland's early 2nd rounder to move down to #26. Someone like Beckham, Mosley, or Roby could still be there at #26. Seferian-Jenkins could be there at #35. Draft has 1st round talent through mid 2nd round. All drafts are not equal. Trade value chart more a guide than anything else.

Would love if Bills traded down with Cleveland picking up Cleveland's early 2nd rounder. Cleveland assures themselves of getting Carr and Bills can collect another quality starter at pick #35. If the top 6 non-QB's all go before pick #9, difference in quality of player at #26 won't be that large.

Great that he's saying he'd keep team in buffalo, but can't see how this would end well. Doesn't have any attachment to area or anything in common with the fan base. After brief honeymoon stage, could see things go south quickly. Meddling, loudmouth, glitzy owner in a blue collar town.

I'd rather trade up for Watkins, Evans, or Mack than either of the tackles. Give raiders our 1st and 3rd round picks for pick #5. Odds of any of the top 6 non-QB prospects dropping to 9th pick are slim. If we get Evans or Watkins, trade Stevie to Carolina for a 3rd round pick.

+1. Not sure why they'd tinker with the timing of draft but I guess if NFL had no problems moving Super Bowl into February, moving draft back 2 weeks isn't a big deal to them.

If Clowney, Mack, Watkins, Evans, Robinson and Matthews are all gone, gotta hope someone wants to trade up for one of the QB's.

More and more things pointing to a Spiller trade. Bills supposedly interested in Chris Johnson. Bills bringing in most of top RB's for draft visits. Now this news about Philly inquiring about Spiller. If Bills aren't gonna be able to re-sign him, I'd take a 2nd round pick for him.

Agreed. Slow feet in pocket and not a fast release. Has a good arm (not as good as Carr's), but don't think he'd hold up to an NFL pass rush.