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I met David Paterson, then Lt Governor of NY, through a friend. I did some work for him, and in my travels, sat with him in his family room and talked for about an hour about our upbringing and political views. I shared that I skew conservative, which lead him to tell a story about his Dad and how he taught him to get along with people. Later, when he became Governor, I had to meet his wife, Michele for something and I dropped by the Governor mansion. She was kind enough to offer a tour, which I declined due to her busy schedule, but I did get to see the FDR swimming pool on the mansion grounds. To be honest, it was a little overwhelming and quite awesome to be treading on the tile floor in the room FDR used to go to for exercise. Very nice and decent people.

It was just the word on the street, Ferrigno. Don’t ignore the leg work.

The word on the street is Frenkle is a portly fellow. I’m all about the inclusion, Doc.

Frenkle, somewhere in America.

All right, you got two likes on the “Mrs. Robinson, y’all” post so there must be something to it. I haven’t seen any widespread reporting or study on married Southern women having secret back room abortions. People are people, of course, but is this a wide-ranging and far flung thing in the south? Is the number 50%, 60%, 90%? Second question. Why would you propose a woman need a doctor to intervene on her behalf of the ultimate goal is unrestricted access to an abortion? Why not just solve the problem if, as you suggest, R women are conflicted on the abortion issue? Btw, I think you’re a thoughtful poster, but lost in the 1950s with the “r women don’t understand pregnancy complications” angle.

This question comes up a lot these days, on all sides of these debates. It’s a fair question, just about always.

A lot of people forgave your people for Mussolini, probably because of the delicious pasta and Sophia Loren. This goes beyond the pale.

Excellent write up, except maybe for the part about NPR, I listen to various shows from time to time—rather, should say I listened—and there were times I wanted to throw myself out the car with the pompously pompous $&@& they were pitching. They were collectively the most depressing sad sacks of people I’ve listened to in my years of listening. To answer your question—yes, I think the hot button issues of our time are manipulated to keep us in conflict. That applies to both parties and pretty much every person who’s gone through Washington the past 100 years. Side bar—it’s one of the reasons people with conservatistic (I made that up) tendencies gravitated to Trump. I have no desire to argue whether that was good or bad, smart or silly, or anything else—but it’s important to remember that R Washington insiders were clearly and firmly against Trump until he won. The abortion issue couldn’t be fixed in the last decade? Of course it could have been. The illegal immigration crisis on both sides of the border couldn’t be addressed by either party over the past 50 or 60 years? Heck, I have to wait in line to be screened and to show my papers when I fly anywhere, and I’ve lived in the same house for nearly 35 years. To get an enhanced license, I have to show my papers, my passport, utility bills and a W2 and I’ve lived in NY for 60 straight years. Anyway, we agree here. Again, welcome to the team. New guy buys the first round.

You're advocating for a system that doesn't exist in the country regardless as to whether or not you're a D, an R, or an I. If he's innocent, he has nothing to explain. Zero. Zed. Nada. Nothing. Meanwhile, he has shared his thoughts on what the lady said, and there have been a number of credible responses that suggest she's mistaken, wrong, lying, vindictive, or mentally unstable. In the meantime, as you surely know, no sensible representative would recommend going before a hostile tribunal of political adversaries with a stated goal to destroy you personally, financially and politically and allow them to dictate terms of the inquisition, especially in light of the problems with the testimony of their key witness. So, he simply responds...Nah, not interested.

Oh no, sir, I’m not talking about something controversial. I think we would all agree that energy policy, for example, can be controversial depending on who is offering the analysis. I’m talking specifically about a politician you mentioned by name, and your inability to recall allegations of “conspiring with a small group of aides”, in this case with respect to creating a false narrative of WMDs that lead to a war and the deaths of thousands of Americans and between 150,000-1,000,000 + Iraqis and others. Though, in fairness, the allegations related to “war for oil” had nothing to do with contesting an election. For that type of allegation, you have to go back to Gore contesting his election loss in 2000 and allegations of disenfranchised voters and serious irregularities in the process. I’m surprised you’d take issue with this sort of thing, but maybe you’re a Bush man.

You must have a short memory. Wasn’t W Bush the President accused of manufacturing evidence of WMDS to propel the country into a needless war, where young men and women died needlessly in pursuit of profit from oil? It’s hard to remember because not long after the D leadership accused him and a small group of aides of doing just that, and the election decided, we got these images of him not being investigated by a bi-partisan committee looking to flush out the facts. It’s weird how all this works.

Based on his ability to close, relative to mine back in the day, I so could have been a Playboy! 🤣

It’s interesting that one of the main issues mentioned was lack of leadership during the pandemic, especially as it related to partying during COVID while the rest of his country ate gruel and huddled in darkness. In the US, we had all sort of politicians sending that very same message, and an entire party specifically devoted to encouraging citizens by the tens of thousands to take to the streets, huddle together in a most COVID-spready-fashion and not a word during a pandemic that killed millions.

I remember when Trump was going to jail, too. That was back when the Dems claimed he was part of an elite KGB incursion team, born in Leningrad, whelped at the feet of Leonid Ilyich Brehznev, and secreted into this country as part of a collection of priceless Matryoshka dolls shipped to the home of Frederick Koch, bought and paid for by the greedy Big Oil barons of days past.

Paying tax in my opinion is the patriotic duty of a citizen. However, when the working slogan from the government is “Look how gracious and benevolent we are—we’ll even let you keep some what you earned after May 15th!” it’s fair to complain.

I actually agree with ChiG on the fact that a prosecutor would likely move slowly and cautiously on an issue like this, but note the continued hedging of bets on criminal charges being filed as well. It would not surprise me in the least to see a prosecutor attempt to score political points and take on DJT even in a losing game. Still, look at BillSy’s entry above. This time, they claim to be getting DJT and the pelt of Lindsey Graham to boot. 🤡

I have to acknowledge your grace and class in this scenario, Mup. That said, have you ever reimagined your life had you decided to have a tasteful evening of flirtation, fun, and boundaries at the Batavia Holiday Inn way back when? Who knows, you could have been Mrs. Muppy Lewis-Playboy had you played your cards right! Based on his Wiki page, you and Mr. Playboy would currently make your home in Rush, NY. (Disclaimer: I briefly flirted with the idea of editing his Wiki page to include a spousal entry as noted above. However, as you know, I’m technologically ambivalent and haven’t yet added an avatar in spite of your kind offer to assist. It all looked very complicated.)

I had to refresh my memory, but his story is apparently as follows: Started as a D, switched to an R; As Comptroller, he ratf*cked Erie county with his budget antics in the early 2000s, and quit in anticipation of losing a reelection bid; He ran for governor in 2018 and tapped out early, before he was shown the curb; He attempted to start his own political party, the Fusion GPS party, but had to quit that deal when he fell about 1,000 signatures short on a 3,000 signature requirement; Decided to run for State Senate, then decided he wasn't going to be marketable and tapped out as well; I don't see any word of any criminal charges being filed, but other than that his resume suggests he would be awesome as a pivotal player in NYS politics. Oh, and btw, he referred to his bid as a 'kamikaze mission', which in context, is a pretty dumb ---perhaps indicative of why he failed to garner support he needed to be successful.

I think BillSy wants to include the number after the decimal point in his three digit swing.

This is why trust in the media is so low, Frenkle. These videos make the rounds...one time it's a liberal slant, the next time it's Foxy Roxy. The point, of course, is as the thread suggests: The American Media should not be trusted. I might tweak that a little bit, and say "The mainstream media outlets in the country should not be trusted implicitly.', but that's drilling down deeper than we need to go here. Glad to have you on the team, soldier.

Lindsey G says "...Politics..." and seems not at all fazed by the latest breaking news. I'm sure the others will follow suit. https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3547213-graham-plans-to-challenge-subpoena-this-is-all-politics/

What’s the magic of the Saturday only plan? Good recap of the past week with an eye on what’s to come next? I’m not judging, just wondering. I keep thinking I’ll get a subscription and never get around to it.

Here they go and put it right in their band name, trying to be completely transparent and this is the response they get. Batavia Girl 1977: What do you guys like to do when you’re not playing? GL: We’re playboys, we like to score chicks. BG 1977: No, seriously, do you like to talk about your feelings? GL: We feel like we want to score chicks. We’re playboys. BG 1977: But isn’t there more to life, settling down, sunsets and love? GL: Probably, but for now, it’s pretty much about the chicks. I respect the hell out of the bravery it took to be so honest.

It was, and has been, your declaration that a crime was clearly committed that caught my eye here. I still am uncertain why a prosecutor would have any concerns about a conviction if it was so painfully obvious for all the world to see. On the other hand, in a legitimate criminal investigation you’re obviously correct. I guess it’s up to each individual to consider the legitimacy of each of these investigations. It’s funny that you mention not missing when the king is targeted. While that may have been true, or may be true for the Washington insider crowd, the reality is it doesn’t apply in this case. The dem Russia play reveals all you need is a good story and a hostile crowd of spectators to kill the king piece by piece by piece. We’ll see, I guess.

If he’s on tape breaking the law, why would any additional testimony be required for success?