Bob in Mich

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilyearlenbaugh/2020/07/06/cannabis-may-reduce-deadly-covid-19-lung-inflammation-researchers-explain-why/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilyearlenbaugh/2020/07/15/cbd-for-coronavirus-new-study-adds-evidence-for-cannabis-as-covid-19-treatment/#3241d70a382d

In the same boat. I have been vacationing (renting) in Canada every summer, save 2 or 3, for my entire life. This one looks in serious jeopardy. I too am looking at possibly getting up in September. If they institute beer delivery In Ontario I would have no problem staying isolated at the cottage. Typically I pretty much stay put once there anyway. Will surely miss it if the border stays closed

This incident in Buffalo demonstrates several of the reasons for widespread anger by the protesters. Protesters claim: -too often excess or careless force is used -the other officers present do not seem to correct the bad behavior -the other police officers then lie in reports to cover for the excess -without the videos the police version of events is assumed true - this all results in a perception of a lack of accountability for bad police behavior. - covering for bad cops then too often results in future bad police behavior leading to undeserved citizen injuries and deaths -in addition, trust in law enforcement overall then suffers -lawsuits then follow, costing the taxpayers actual dollars So, how do we improve the accountability and the trust? How do you empower officers to better control bad behavior in other officers? How do you convince police unions that gains they perceive in covering for bad officers are lost many times over in the long run, as we see in the rioting?

The launch as shown on CNN was screwy. They got the audio and video out of sync. They seemed to have a video version that was about 15 seconds behind live. They then switched to ‘live’ video as the countdown got near but they didn’t switch to live audio. The result was seeing the liftoff for about 5 seconds before the final 10 second countdown on the audio. The rocket was pretty high up before the audio caught up announcing liftoff.

How can that work with so much phone fraud these days? I would not trust someone on the phone claiming to be a contact tracer. How do they prove they are legitimate?

Yeah, love it! How bout we make em wear hats with horns too so we all know who is part of the herd? Or, wait, branding!

You know, if they don't need to accommodate fans, the major leagues could probably rent much less expensive fields/arenas to play in than these traditional venues. Just sayin

Aren’t you defeating the purpose of the mask if it is pushing your breath up and out past your glasses rather than going through the filtering of the mask?

Did you come here for an argument or just for abuse? Twits! Lol

It is so sweet to see the shift in the Bills’ decision making. We have gone from management decisions bringing reactions of ‘What? Why?’ To reactions of ‘Good pick, makes sense’. Even when I disagree, I have faith in today’s management team to make smart decisions

I saw Cohen was sent home to do his time with in-home confinement. How does that differ from all the rest of us? We should all get ‘pay it forward’ credit toward future prison sentences

If any regular poster here made such stupid comments as Trumps disinfecting ideas from yesterday’s press conference, you folks would never let that person live it down. If it were me, there would be at least a dozen posts about cannabis rotting my brain. Go ahead though and keep making excuses for him. If anyone here doubted the Trump cult accusations, these defenses should erase those doubts

So, are the seats in the top row of the upper deck now the best seats? Just imagine all those virus laden ‘Shout’ beer droplets raining down on you in the lower bowl. And, I wanna be upwind. Lol

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/223756-covid-19-facts-and-information-only-thread/?do=findComment&comment=6463111 You have probably seen the other thread on this board being 'moderated' by Hapless. The above link is a posting in that thread that talks about cannabis compounds and this cytokine storm. I linked to the PPP medical cannabis page with some of my personal experiences with a February respiratory flu - obviously anecdotal as well. There have been conflicting studies about the wisdom of using cannabis compounds around viruses and I am not a medical or research scientist, but a cannabis based treatment seems like it may have some future. See the links at the other post if you have not already. Briefly, some cannabinoids are bronchodilators to help breathing, some seem to suppress this cytokine storm issue as described by the doctor in the video, and relatively, it has few side effects. In addition, if found to be effective, concentrates are already available worldwide today and production of cannabis concentrates has already been scaled up for today's medical and adult use markets. Doing searches on "cannabinoids, 'cytokine storm'" uncovers some studies done with other viruses on the nih.gov site too. Other google searches uncover the typical wide range of sources and validity so look out for that.

Charlotte Figi, the Colorado child that helped rekindle interest in CBD and cannabis medicine, has passed away at age 13. She was the 'star' of Sanjay Gupta's 'Weed' series on CNN. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/health/charlotte-figi-cbd-marijuana-dies/index.html

Hap, feel free to move/delete this if you feel it does not belong here. It was posted in the PPP thread 'Know Anyone with a Disease'. That is a medical cannabis thread here. There I have posted more of my personal experience with recent respiratory problems and cannabis concentrates. https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/169052-know-anyone-with-a-disease-read-this/?do=findComment&comment=6463090 I have been reading a bit more about the 'cytokine storm' that seems to overwhelm the lungs in covid-19 patients. This is essentially an overreaction by our immune system to the virus. It seems that this overreaction is at the heart of the fluid build up in the lungs and so to the shortness of breath issue. With THC being a bronchodilator, there may be a treatment hidden in here somewhere I think. I am no expert in this field, unfortunately. From what I have read, many of the potential pharma treatments try to also quiet this cytokine storm. I am curious if there is any actual current research on using cannabinoids to try to treat covid-19 patients. https://www.projectcbd.org/medicine/cannabis-cbd-covid-19 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2828614/ from the study Executive summary Cannabinoids, the active components of Cannabis sativa, and endogenous cannabinoids mediate their effects through activation of specific cannabinoid receptors known as cannabinoid receptor 1 and 2 (CB1 and CB2). The cannabinoid system has been shown both in vivo and in vitro to be involved in regulating the immune system through its immunomodulatory properties. Cannabinoids suppress inflammatory response and subsequently attenuate disease symptoms. This property of cannabinoids is mediated through multiple pathways such as induction of apoptosis in activated immune cells, suppression of cytokines and chemokines at inflammatory sites and upregulation of FoxP3+ regulatory T cells. Cannabinoids have been tested in several experimental models of autoimmune disorders such as multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, colitis and hepatitis and have been shown to protect the host from the pathogenesis through induction of multiple anti-inflammatory pathways. Cannabinoids may also be beneficial in certain types of cancers that are triggered by chronic inflammation. In such instances, cannabinoids can either directly inhibit tumor growth or suppress inflammation and tumor angiogenesis.

I have been reading a bit more about the 'cytokine storm' that seems to overwhelm the lungs in covid-19 patients. This is essentially an overreaction by our immune system to the virus. It seems that this overreaction is at the heart of the fluid build up in the lungs and so to the shortness of breath issue. With THC being a bronchodilator, there may be a treatment hidden in here somewhere I think. I am no expert in this field, unfortunately. From what I have read, many of the potential pharma treatments try to also quiet this cytokine storm. I am curious if there is any actual current research on using cannabinoids to try to treat covid-19 patients. https://www.projectcbd.org/medicine/cannabis-cbd-covid-19 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2828614/ from the study Executive summary Cannabinoids, the active components of Cannabis sativa, and endogenous cannabinoids mediate their effects through activation of specific cannabinoid receptors known as cannabinoid receptor 1 and 2 (CB1 and CB2). The cannabinoid system has been shown both in vivo and in vitro to be involved in regulating the immune system through its immunomodulatory properties. Cannabinoids suppress inflammatory response and subsequently attenuate disease symptoms. This property of cannabinoids is mediated through multiple pathways such as induction of apoptosis in activated immune cells, suppression of cytokines and chemokines at inflammatory sites and upregulation of FoxP3+ regulatory T cells. Cannabinoids have been tested in several experimental models of autoimmune disorders such as multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, colitis and hepatitis and have been shown to protect the host from the pathogenesis through induction of multiple anti-inflammatory pathways. Cannabinoids may also be beneficial in certain types of cancers that are triggered by chronic inflammation. In such instances, cannabinoids can either directly inhibit tumor growth or suppress inflammation and tumor angiogenesis.

We live and we learn. I have learned your opinions are not well informed and that you are quite stubborn Want to tell us all again how this virus is no big deal?

Trump has been overly concerned with appearances over reality at every turn. He chooses to look like he solves a problem over actually solving it whenever possible. He made a couple of good yet unpopular decisions closing travel from China early on and won't let anyone forget about it. He spends 15-20% of his time self congratulating. OMG if I hear one more time about how smart he was, ..... Yes, he made that decision. He did good. Since then, he has been his typical idiotic self however. If I can post the following post three weeks ago why has he still not realized that is what needs to be done? I also posted about making and using cloth masks weeks before Trump. Why didn't he kick things into gear weeks ago, if not months? Answer: appearances. Ok, the expert opinions were all over for a while but Jesus Christ, if I can post on this board about practical ideas to help weeks ago, why has the administration been so slow? Answer: fear of appearances. And, no one should have to kiss this President's ass in order to get him to do his ***** job. The people of Michigan should not be punished because Governor Whitmer spoke the truth to this highly flawed fool that is in charge. If where I worked I saw a manager taking criticism personally and acting so foolishly, I would go over his/her head to report the behavior. It is not how an organization should operate. Again, Trump should do his ***** job and that surely includes accepting criticism

Now is not really the time to worry about that 2% milk fat. Be bold!! lol

What grade are you in? Who started it? Are you ***** kidding me? Without criticism Trump would not have gotten off his ass for even longer. Nevermind We will never agree. Stay safe

You hit it on the head. You nailed one of Trumps biggest flaws. He is not able to separate personal relationships from the relationships he must have in his role as the president. I am not a psychologist but his ego causes problems quite often in relationships both foreign and domestic. Trump’s dealings with these Governors should be completely separate from any personal feelings. He is so fragile however that he cannot treat criticism as anything but a personal affront. He immediately fires back at the criticism and has implied that those that criticize should get less federal help. That pettiness is dangerous and unacceptable

Some don’t know that you can freeze milk. If you get a chance to get a bit extra on your day out, freeze some. Allow for expansion or expect leakage upon thawing...in the fridge

The problem I see with this is the length of time a patient needs to stay on the machine. Last I heard this averaged 11 days, obviously with some being above that number. If an area’s peak is projected to be in about 2 weeks, how many would you be willing to loan out? How do you return a ventilator if the patient is still on it? Promises for a new one are nice but can those be produced and delivered in time for their peak? I don’t know but it seems like they will take some weeks to build

I have watched this situation develop in other 'western medicine' countries that preceded us, such as Italy and Spain. My views on this crisis have been fact based. I could see when they were overwhelmed that we would get overwhelmed in at least some hot spots in this country. Many here have focused on the differences to proclaim it would be different here. Yes, there are several differences but to focus on those in the face of the major similarities, was/is a mistake. The same is happening here. We are or will be overrun in some areas and the death rates then will climb in those areas. Some of this is inevitable at this point. Like watching a collision of huge ships, there may be time yet before the collision, but the die have been cast in some cities and the crash will happen. I appreciate the wishes for good health. I wish the same for you and your loved ones. Stay smart, keep safe.