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Maybe. But the text didn’t read that way. In any event, I point to an earlier comment in this thread in which it was noted that an obese, bald, middle-aged man bailed on work early the night before Schoen was hired to enjoy himself. Read into that what you will.

I couldn’t agree with this more. I’d add only that there’s great benefit in making the D-lineman run side to side early in the game to dilute a pass rush later in the game. Andy Reid gets this. We didn’t for awhile this year. Pin and pull maybe helped that cause a bit. I don’t know. But things changed for us dramatically when the run game had even a marginal improvement.

Principle. And probably revenge. But principle is high on the list.

A couple of things: 1. Brian Flores has HUGE balls. I don’t know that I agree with all of the allegations in the complaint, but if I was the victim of the sham nonsense that he describes, I’d be pretty torqued about it, too. 2. I think there’s something to the Daboll stuff that going around here and in that complaint. He struck me as . . . very unhappy as the season progressed. 3. The night before Schoen was announced as the NYG GM a middle aged, obese bald man bailed on work early and was celebrating. Take it for what it’s worth.

This bell can’t be unrung.

Apparently HCQ doesn’t work on incompetent doctors. So we’ve learned in the past 18 months. Sad.

Could be. But those who know him rave about his intelligence. So there’s that. Another option would be to bring in a guy like David Culley, who was here before, has been all over the place, and apparently did nothing to help Josh. “Terrific guy” was the quote an anonymous Bills staffer gave when asked to describe his performance here. (I’d bet $100 that was Daboll, for what it’s worth.)

It’s been trending this way for awhile. He’d get a nice bump, be the OC in waiting, and maybe even get on the fast track to a HC position.

The same place as the intelligent conservatives, apparently.

Now I’ve seen it all. Doc harping on competency. Have you convinced anyone of your HCQ/flintstones vitamins cure for COVID-19 yet?

And josh couldn’t work with him as much in the off-season if he was on staff. That’s important, too.

Yes. In the same way your zinc/HCQ/Flintstone vitamin/heaping side of bologna concoction can be considered an effective treatment for COVID.

It’s too bad that he lost another dream job. Normally I take no delight in someone getting fired. But this guy is a jerk. Not because he quit on us. For sins committed prior to that point.

I’m hopeful that there’s mutual destruction in that division next year.

I’m sorry for your loss. It is for people like you and your dad that I am sick about last week. I am sorry that you never were able to see him enjoy a Bills Super Bowl win. He will be with you in spirit when our time finally arrives.

Believe it or not, yes, I do. But what their GC’s office does is up to Russ Brandon’s brother and his staff. Also, you can save your condescension for the other board. I’m sorry that you’re out of your element on this particular issue. But it’s not a reason to be rude. I don’t know if pederson fits the culture here for a variety of reasons. PSE has had enough problems with sexual misconduct, and isn’t Peterson a guy who had an affair with a subordinate at a previous stop? not sure I want to get away from EP, either. But if he can run EP, and if they can live with a guy of pederson’s background, I am all for a hire like this one.

You give way, way too much credit to the lawyers these teams hire. The people the bills have have are far from the cream of the crop. And, re the first paragraph, this isn’t about making anyone sign. It’s about making sure that, when someone does sign (like Dorsey did several yards ago, when he had little leverage), that the team is protected in a situation such as this one. bottom line here: some rando on an internet message board came up with a plan to avoid the mess in which the bills now find themselves. They’d be wise to try to implement the tool in the future.

Actually I do think someone could mess this up. Remember the jags canning their assistant coaches several years ago, then discovering they had to pay an extra year of salary because of how the contract was written, and then firing their GC? I do. Your view on the NFL rejecting the contract out of hand is similarly misguided. Ever hear of a savings clause? What about a clause that allows for promotion as of right upon Rooney satisfaction ? And, because the Bills seek the right to promote against one’s will doesn’t mean they would exercise that right. Ergo, your Rooney problem is feigned. Frankly, in my view, the whole idea of insulating against a situation like this makes perfect sense. Wanna be Josh’s QB coach? Gotta potentially sacrifice some marketability as insulation in case the guy above you leaves and we then wish to explore continuity.

Again, you’re missing the point. The bills and Dorsey can contract for whatever they want. It’s private law between the parties. So what should have happened here is that the Bills put language in the contract that gave them the right to make Dorsey the OC, whether he wants to be or not. As soon as he’s the OC, he and the giants (in this instance) can’t do this dance. your point about Rooney is separate. That’s between the bills and the NFL. If the bills, say, promoted Dorsey without Rooney compliance, then the bills have to answer to the NFL. So what easily could and should have happened is that daboll left, the bills interview Kelly skipper or whomever to meet Rooney, and THEN they exercise what should have been the “promotion ad of right” clause in dorsey’s contract. It’s not that complicated.

I think you’re missing the point. The contract should have given the Bills the right to promote, irrespective of Dorsey’s consent, Dorsey to OC. The Rooney issue is separate. Of course the bills would have to satisfy that rule prior to promotion. But under my approach, they could have satisfied Rooney by now, promoted Dorsey afterwards, and blocked Dorsey from considering the giants based on the NFLs lateral move preclusion. It’s kind of simple, really, and it’s a shame that nobody thought of doing this with a guy who needed us more than we needed him when he came here.

Depends on how it’s structured. An automatic promotion would (for Dorsey). A right to promote vested with the team would not (so long as team first met Rooney). You’re right about belichick. He didn’t want it. But the jets, if IIRC, could do it. Hence his resignation (as opposed to a declination). That’s the concept that I think should have been built in for Dorsey here. General counsel dropped the ball.

That’s the point. That’s what the contract should have said. Like the Jets did with Belichick. Also, on the BOB thing. I’m all for considering the idea. But I wonder what Brian Gaine has to say about BOB.

Gotta wonder why the contract w Dorsey wasn’t written to give the Bills the right to promote upon vacancy. Maybe it’s against league rules. But it’s one way to handle a situation like this one. Quickly satisfy Rooney, promote, and block.

I’m getting to the point where if Dorsey doesn’t want to be here or if he has cold feet that we cal Josh see how he feels about option #2 and move in with our lives. I don’t like getting jerked around on this by a guy who has never been a coordinator. Everyone is replaceable. I suspect the bills will match the money if they like him enough. The “scared” thing makes sense to me, too. I keep coming back to the idea that, as a Cali/Miami guy, he doesn’t want to live in Buffalo in February and March.

I wonder if Dorsey hates living in Buffalo. It might be that simple. Because, football wise, his departure makes sense only if he thinks he can’t match what Daboll did and will be stained by a year over year drop in production.