WotAGuy

Happy Easter! Happy Easter Einstein!

Hey, if you’re not part of the solution you you’re part of the problem. You only sell to Bills fans?

So….you usually sell most of your tickets and are wondering why there aren’t many STH around you? Think about that for a minute and get back to us. 😝 There is definitely a sunk cost, but people can bail on them if need be. But don’t PSLs also have diminishing returns? They have a fixed lifespan, so as the years go by, wouldn’t you expect the value to decrease as their usable life decreases? Also, the fortunes of the team will probably play a big role in the market value of PSLs; if the team goes on a championship run, wouldn’t you expect the value to be affected positively by that?

Weak. You’re running on fumes Einstein. I expected better from you.

And as we have read from @Mr Info some PSL purchasers are not NYS residents and are not taxpayers. Also, it’s not the most well-written or current article on the topic, but it is noteworthy that this construction project is benefitting the local job market and economy. Pegula isn’t the only one seeing benefits of the taxpayers’ “investment”. https://ublawsportsforum.com/2022/11/18/bills-stadium-project-labor-agreement-burden-or-benefit/amp/?fbclid=IwAR1-6aCTpcXY7ZIWFvnDpXYrcb2EkdKdDuJMxWOeRFRWd0YVkevmFiUZF4k_aem_ATbY3oelUT8FPLOSahB9uONzBhaKuEnCFL4StN6zgA_lyQWrIO9WASey-kknWGKD4z0

How are the Bills gouging the taxpayers? Taxpayers have no obligation or need to purchase a PSL. It’s a voluntary choice to pay for entertainment. The only taxpayers being offered the opportunity to purchase PSLs are apparently buying them up at a fairly high rate. And that’s just a very small percentage of the relatively few taxpayers that will have an opportunity to purchase a PSL. PSLs are only being offered to current customers. And the large percentage of those customers haven’t even been told what their PSL will cost, so how can it be “gouging”? Why do you conflate “gouging the taxpayers” with the Bills offering existing customers to remain customers at a similar or better amenity level in an entirely new and improved venue? In fact, many of the Bills’ existing customers who will be offered PSLs aren’t even NYS taxpayers, being from Canada and other states. With regard to your item 2 above, I think it shows growth and maturity on your part to concur that PSLs are a fee, just as Ticketmaster charges a fee. We are finding common ground.

Your original Taco Bell example that started this whole discussion is not consistent with the reality of the Bills’ PSL and ticket process. Your example has a step that does not occur in the Bills’ situation. So you were wrong from the start, despite changing your wording now to make it sound like “that’s what I meant”. Maybe if you posted a link to that article Yahoo written about you we could see where your “about faces” originate from. By the way, I also have had articles written about me; you’ll find them in the police blotter of some well-established, highly circulated newspapers. 😆

Nice deflection. You conveniently left out the part about your example not matching the reality of the Bills’ stadium/ticket/PSL scenario. Your Taco Bell example is just as full of holes, no matter how much you change it now. 🤣

Your analogy isn’t consistent with the stadium situation: 1) Taxpayers are only paying a portion of the stadium and in return there will be county sales and state income taxes collected from the games/teams that play there. So there is some return on the “investment”. I believe this is one way that the state and county justify the “investment “ in the stadium. 2) Some consumers are choosing to pay a PSL that will be used to finance the rest of the construction cost as part of their “investment” in attending the games. And contrary to your analogy, a PSL will not get you through the door. Only a game ticket will get you through the door. The PSL and ticket cost are effectively one cost because you cannot own one without the other. So your three-part example does not exist in the NFL or anywhere that I can think of. Basically taxpayers fund part of the venue construction for a financial return and your PSL/ticket combo get you in the door to watch the show. This is very similar to the example I provided previously where the state and county paid to build the amphitheater in Syracuse and your ticket/Ticketmaster fee combo get you in the door to watch the show. You keep dismissing everyone’s examples while reciting your example which does not reflect the reality of the stadium situation.

Calling @Kirby Jackson

But they will be under cover! It sounds like the seats not under cover will be the lower bowl, about halfway from top of that section down to field level. If it plays out the way the Bills have suggested, the cheapest seats will have cover.

Mine get stuck on #69 which is a guy in a Bills hat and Ed Wang jersey doing unspeakable things to a ketchup bottle.

Using toilet paper because their argument is sh!t. 🤣🤣

Costco?? Ha! So you pay a PSL to shop for groceries?? Sucker!! Hope my tax dollars didn’t pay to build that ***** store!

Trading next year’s high picks sounds like a good idea until next year when you realize it wasn’t worth it and you need that pick back. The draft, even the first round, is too much of a crap shoot to trade future picks. The idea is to keep finding Matt Milanos and Terrel Bernards and make the best of your high picks each year. The Bills might try to get back into the third this year, but I don’t see them using next year’s picks to do it.

If anything, it will be third or lower. Their trade ammo is all lower rounds picks.

Well, in Syracuse, the county (and maybe/probably NYS) paid to build the Lakeside Amphitheater. We pay Ticketmaster a fee to be able to buy tickets, and then buy the tickets to the show.

It was all fun and games until you said “shop at Tops”. Don’t judge me and my coupons you *****.

First day on the internet? Welcome. You’ll find a wide selection of things to B word about. Take your pick, but hurry the ***** up. I swear someone else has taken over Einstein’s account after they posted their tax return. They used to be highly intelligent and rich. Now they sound like a deranged homeless person.

My wife wants to know if the smoking hot bartenders and servers are male or female. Might affect “our” decision to buy.

Any info leaking about the cost for the Takeo Spikes-level club seats?

$20k loan for 10 years at 10% interest is 11k in interest. So a 20k PSL will cost 31k. Ouch.

Punxsutawney Phil just revealed there will be 6 more months of bitchin’ about Peacock.

I believe this is why the Bills are so secretive about PSLs in the rest of the stadium. It’s tougher to sell a $50k PSL when people know they are only $5k a level up or in the end zones. Maybe businesses won’t care, but some individuals might.

Those people are dead to me.