shoveldog

Look, I'm not a Jauron fan, but you absolutely CANNOT blame this one on coaching. The penalties were a result of a young guy learning his new position after being elevated to a starter 10 days ago and the fumble by McKelvin was just another young guy trying to do too much at the wrong time. Be proud that we have a young team with loads of talent that appears poised to compete. But to use this loss to knock the coaching staff is ridiculous. The coaches can prepare them for the game, and have no doubt, they were well prepared. But, in the end, it's the players who have to play the game. D. Bell and L. Mckelvin lost this game, not the coaches. The good news is that each played relatively well asside from their brief moments of idiocy. They are young and will get better with experience. The future looks brighter, even after this heart wrenching loss, than it did just a few days ago. Shovel

Yeah, what he said!

You won't have to worry... Dickie will be gone after the bye week.

Don't set asside that hatred so quickly... he's still DICK.

Good points, but when your players are not producing, is it the players or the way they are coached? Our defense was decent under Dick Lebeau, yet went straight down hill under Fewell. Offense has been a cluster F for a long time, but a good QB makes all the difference and we've been without a true NFL calibre QB for a long time.

You're kidding right? This is a joke? Have you watched any of these games? We have ZERO positives to pull from any of the games for the first string offense. The O-line is struggling, but Trent looks lost out there... and Yes, he has had time to throw on many plays and yet still earns the title "Captain Checkdown." Mark my words: TO is gonna blow a cork by about the 3rd week, calling out Edwards and Turk. DJ will be fired after the bye week. Bank on it.

Ok, maybe I'm getting old and my memory is starting to fail me... but I seem to see things differently than most of you. I thought our O-Line was really coming together nicely last year in pre-season. Walker looked GOOD at LT. Then, Peters ended his holdout, esentially destroying any cohesiveness we established in the pre-season. I know some will say, "Yeah, that was pre-season." But, I personally think a lot of people are going to be pleasantly surprised at how well Walker holds down the LT position this year. He won't be a stud, but he is going to be a servicable LT. Shovel

Just say NO to Vick! He's not a QB... he's a running back who throws from time to time.

Seems about right.

The blind ignorance of "fans" never ceases to amaze me. Folks, this is a business. Like any other business, you weight the cost and benefit of every spending decision very carefully. If the asking price was right, he would have been signed already. The fact that he hasn't been signed tells you that he's looking for more scratch than we believe he's worth. Nobody said we didn't make him an offer. He and his agent will shop his services and see if any better offers come about. They will use our offer as leverage and try to up the stakes. I'd be very surprised if we got him at our original offer, but if the bills left some wiggle room and can counter an offer by the Bears or the next team he visits after the Bears, you may still see him signed. Ask yourselves this... why did he suddenly become expendable with the Rams? It's a business! Clearly they felt his production wasn't worth the money they were paying. So, why do some fans insist on the "get him at all costs" mentality?

No, not a good find. The article was from 2007... yeah, he sure has sucked since it was printed: Receiving Year Team G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st 2007 St. Louis Rams 16 16 93 1189 12.8 40 7 16 1 63 2008 St. Louis Rams 16 14 64 796 12.4 45 3 9 1 40

no offense mark, but you and all the others who are dissing on the g-man need to do a little research and get a clue.

Clueless part deux

Clueless.

Was Butkus great in his first season? I dunno, just asking.

Ok, so you are either a Cards fan, a Steeler hater or you lost money on the game... Either way, you're on crack if you think that ball came out as a spiral. That ball was knocked loose by the contact and momentum of Warner trying in despiration to get it out pushed the ball forward. But, he NEVER had control of the ball as the arm started forward.

I'll take one of each... to go please.

I wouldn't go that far... however, a good QB can make a weak coach look like a star and a poor QB can ruin a good coach's career... Just ask Andy Reid how things are going for him in Philly.

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I'm not picking on you, but I've seen this on the board in several places. Does nobody understand that we play a 4-3 defense? Your OLB's in a 4-3 are not supposed to be pass rushing stars. When teams play a 3-4, they rely on that pass rushing OLB (i.e. why Joey Porter is "suddenly" effective again playing in Miami.) He was stuck in a 4-3 scheme and it didn' suit his strengths. A 4-3 relys on the DE's to get the up field push on the outside to sack the QB. Our problem isn't at OLB, it's at DE. Our DE's are average to slightly above average but none are game changers. The same goes for all the "Whitner Sucks" folks here. They see a player not standing out like insert productive player name here from XYZ team, but they don't understand our scheme and how it relates to a player's duties.

None of us know the conversations that have been going on behind closed doors. Based on some of the interviews with the D-Line Coach, it sounds like they have openly questioned his desire and he has not responded. I'm guessing that was the reason for the trade. Here's to hoping that the trade and subsequent dismissal by the Colts will make him realize that this is his last chance to step up and prove his worth.

Yeah... gone are the days when guys like Ronnie Lott said "So, Doc, if you cut the tip of my finger off, I can play on Sunday? OK, cut it off!" Today, we've got a world full of Tim Connolly's.

I don't blame this on JP, he did an average job as a backup... But he confirmed why he's not our starter. Same old JP, holding the ball too long waiting for the long ball or waiting for what he perceived as an open receiver. Funny how TE doesn't need to wait that long to get the ball out of his hands. Bottom line, JP doesn't read defenses or see the field like a starting QB in the NFL. He certainly didn't lose us this game, but he didn't win it for us either.

Ok, my brain hurts... can't we just keep it to stuff that average folk like me understand. "Hey, these dudes ain't playin"