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They loooooooove the kicking game over there. This is what the people are crying out for over there.

I was like 14 years old living in Sacramento when I signed up and I used it for all my screen names back in the day.

Yeah I never said any of that or even alluded to any of that. So, save your "deduction" lessons for after you learn to read and understand what you're reading.

Lol ok. The entire point of the argument was why Josh didn't dominate in college, and I would argue he was easily the most talented player in the Mountain West his JR and SR year and clearly stood out when you actually watched his game. He didn't dominate statistically for a litany of reasons, but he was inaccurate, and a lot of that was because he lacked touch, and, as others have mentioned, never had high level coaching. Of course, Comp% isn't a be all end all statistic when it comes to accuracy, I haven't argued that, but when it comes to "dominating in college" his touch and mechanics are why, which lead to lower completion rates than one would expect of a future NFL star. The fact the Bills deduced that his inaccuracy came from reasons that weren't just from "this guy can't throw the ball where he wants" is why we get to watch a future NFL MVP on our favorite football team.

Yeah this argument is going nowhere because you're not making any sense. The entire sport, on both sides of the ball is a completely different game. Also, because you're just throwing out random strawman arguments, Josh Rosen had accuracy issues in college too, and was a turnover machine.

This is so so true. You realize you're not making any sense, correct? Either that, or you have severe reading comprehension problems.

And my entire point was that Josh Allen defied those statistics, making him a statistical outlier and a total unicorn in my opinion. But, throwing out historical data, especially as the college game and NFL game get more and more alike, is foolish and no NFL scouting department would do that. Literally everything about the QB position and the sport of football has changed since Troy Aikman or Terry Bradshaw played.

Aikman had a 63% completion percentage in college, and it was a completely different sport when he played, let alone when Terry Bradshaw played. Those two examples have absolutely no statistical value to scouting QBs today but it's an excellent try.

I've stated multiple times why I feel Josh has defied past statistical markers. If you don't think teams look at historical data to project a player's future, I don't know what to tell you, but I can also tell you the draft nerds on the internet that only box score scout, could never have predicted this outcome for him, because all they do is use stats to predict future results. That is also why many of these same internet "scouts" refuse to admit they were completely wrong. The reason the Bills hit a homerun by picking him and completely altering the trajectory of the franchise is because the FO got to know Josh Allen as a person and competitor, which can't be measured. You combine his clear desire to improve with a freaky tool box of physical gifts and you get the odds on favorite for MVP in 2022.

Uh what? Aikman had a 63% completion percentage in college. I was asked for a statistical example of Josh Allen being an outlier, and provided one.

I do find it funny that dratfniks are now actively looking for the "next Josh Allen" which is why people are mocking Will Levis in the top 5.

If the majority of the teams felt that way he would've never made it to 7 as the 3rd QB selected. Josh is a product of a GREAT job of scouting and getting to know the player by the Bills, and more importantly, a dude who refuses to be second best.

Josh had a 56% completion percentage in college, the largest outlier for improving completion percentage, before Josh, was Kyle Boller, who went from 47.8% (lol) to 56.7% in the NFL. Overall Josh has improved from 56.2% to 62.2% and that's including his rookie year. If you just use Josh's years as a fulltime starter he's completing 64.4% of his passes which is an 8.2% improvement over his college stats. That, by definition, makes him a statistical outlier.

What he's done is absolutely unprecedented. He defied statistics in every conceivable way, but statistics cannot quantify a player's work ethic. Josh is a physical freak but that pales in comparison to his desire to improve and win and I think it's why he'll age incredibly well.

So as a degenerate, I watched a ton of Mountain West football and I became a fan of Josh at Wyoming during his sophomore year, I never missed a game. Now, I was not someone saying grab this dude at 7, in fact, I think I was kind of mad about it because I didn't like any of the QBs in that draft as 1st round picks, so uh whoops. Anyway, Josh was incredibly inaccurate in college. Yes his WRs had some drops and the team around him wasn't very good, but the two things that jumped off the screen were his rocket arm and his struggle to control it. I'm not sure we comprehend just how unprecedented it is for someone to go from what Josh was in college to what he is now. It's a real credit to his work ethic imo.

I mean, drafting would be easy if they could do it over after 6 weeks. Elam will be far more valuable than Hall could ever dream of being.

I don't think it will really matter in terms of a win or loss for the Bills, I'm only talking about the gambling angle and getting a tick down in the spread.

So much of it is the rush 3 drop 8 that defense are employing now. It requires perfection in so many aspects of an offense and there just aren't many QBs that can do it.

Part of the reason the guys who have played the Bills are at the bottom are because they played the Bills in 16.7% of their games.

Books don't hedge on possible injuries, they just keep the limits lower on their look ahead lines. It might re-open a little lower if the Pack can get right a little bit against Washington, but it won't be by much. I'm hoping it re-opens at 7.5 and a bunch of pros that grab numbers on the other side of key numbers early in the week get it down to 7.

Bills -3 on a neutral.

The Bills under McDermott have been stellar post bye week. 5-0, and scoring 4.82 more points than their average and allowing 1.11 points fewer than their average. Bake those numbers into the Ralph in a prime time spot, I make it more Bills -9, but if the Packers can manage to win convincingly this week that might come down to 7 and then I'll hit it.

In years past I would agree with you, but this year, not only are the results bad, but all of their underlying metrics are bad. I won't be on the spread but I already grabbed some under 47.5 in this one.

Part of this is Lombardi really sucks. He's running the same short pass offense he called for Drew Brees when Brees was completely broken. When he was forced to change it up last year they and Herbert took off. He's back to calling his short crap again and this is the result.

If the Bills win the Super Bowl that clip will mean less than it already does. Zac Taylor basically washed McVay's clothes for 2 years and got a HC job, someone is always willing to take a shot on a play caller.