dave mcbride

They also were apparently all in on Mason Rudolph if they hadn't been able to get Allen ...

Question for you - when Daboll was here, the emphasis was on "windows" throwing to personnel with a demonstrated ability to separate -- i.e., to guys able to create big windows for Allen. Diggs was and is a phenomenal separator, and Beasley was excellent too. The year before they signed Sanders, he had the highest separation rate in the NFL (at NO) and historically had been great at it over the course of his career. Indeed, Beane had been trying to get him for a couple of years and wanted him in 2020. That system worked pretty well for the Bills. Outside of Shakir, the big slows they're rolling out now all struggle to separate, although I still can't explain Samuel in this system because he HAS been a separator in his career and is both fast and quick. MVS is fast but not a good receiver overall. Would you go back to that type of system if you could?

Without knowing anything, it does seem like the tea leaves are reading that way.

Oh, don't get me wrong -- it'd suck. My maybe baseless fear is that the Bills are way past due for a reversion to the mean on turnovers. The offense only has two and lead the league in that category, yet they have a qb who has a history of turning the ball over (especially vs the Jets D). From 2019-2023, Allen has thrown 8 INTs and fumbled it 7 times (losing it 4 times) at Met Life. That's 2.4 turnovers a game for him there. It's a pattern. EDIT: The Bills have only two turnovers in their last seven games including the playoffs last year. That's great, but it also strikes me as unsustainable.

The Jets D is currently 5th in points allowed, 2nd in yards allowed, 1st in net yards per passing attempt allowed, and second in yards per drive. They're not the problem.

https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/jets-fire-robert-salah.100460/page-8#post-4417871

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/robert-saleh-was-escorted-out-of-building-by-director-of-security

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/robert-saleh-says-he-was-blindsided-by-woody-johnson-firing-him

Thanks, but you're kinda missing the most important one! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202312230sdg.htm

The Jets defense is for real and Rodgers has had stretches this season where he has looked like Rodgers. They could easily be 4-1. The Bills have struggled at Met Life the last couple of seasons too. This isn't like facing the Chargers last year, who didn't have a qb. And if the Jets get Adams, who is healthy, he can come in right away and play because he knows the offense like the back of his hand. And he's arguably the best route runner in the NFL. A loss would completely suck, but I think it's quite possible they can lose because the Jets have the sort of defense -- corners who can man up well outside -- that can smother the Bills anemic receiving corps.

The Raiders made the playoffs in 2021 after firing their head coach after five games. To be fair, Gruden wasn't fired for performance related issues, and the Raiders were 3-2 at the time.

The announcers were clearly unaware of the rule. Seriously.

I kinda think it makes the opposite outcome more likely.

And one of those seven losses is a completely decimated Chargers team almost beating the Bills last year - a team that gave up 63 points the week before.

The Bills barely beat a terrible Chargers team without a qb the week after the coach got fired last year. This worries me.

Maybe too minor of a thing, but maybe this lessens the chances of NO getting him? https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/derek-carr-will-have-an-mri-on-tuesday-unsure-if-he-can-play-sunday-vs-buccaneers

I hate that I’m thinking this, but it makes too much sense given that Davis is not going to want to eat salary. The Jets have the space to avoid this outcome, and the Bills currently don’t.

Pretty sure he forced his way off that team, which is currently in disarray and with a historically bad offense (the o line is probably the worst in the league).

The ball moved from his grip right after he hit the ground out of bounds — i.e., he lost control even though it didn’t hit the ground. He regained control of the ball but did so while clearly out of bounds. By rule, it is not a catch and it was clear as day. “Going to the Ground: If a player is falling to the ground while catching the ball, they must maintain control of the ball after they land for it to be considered a catch.”

Oh, I agree. My point was simply that it wasn’t just about the timeouts.

You make it conditional - offer them the better of the two picks depending on how the season shakes out. It's very simple.

It's not about throwing timeouts away; it's about throwing challenges. They would have lost the Kincaid challenge (there was no chance it would have been overturned), which means they only would have had one left. You don't know if you'll need that challenge later on.

And they were wrong because they don't understand the rule. There was zero chance that would have been overturned.

There was actually 32 seconds when they got the ball ... and 50 yards would have resulted in a 65 yard FG attempt. So yeah, it was a pretty freaking stupid decision.

The fact that the Bills didn't turn it over yesterday despite the overall miserableness on offense was the sole reason they stayed in that game. A pick or a fumble and Houston probably wins by two scores. It's an underrated stat, although Allen had a couple of throws that were pick-able.