Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

OK that's true, I'm making assumption Pats lose to Bills and Ravens. We'd then be tied and both could end the season with 13 wins. But then Pats would win division, so they'd need to still lose one of last two games to end with a 12-5 record. We could even lose Eagles game and end up 12-5 and be tied with them and win the division. If the Bills do end up 13-4, it is rare that record doesn't win division.

Or maybe it was due to him playing hurt. Eventually he gave up and went on IR and did whatever he should have done back in September. But from the sound of it either way, he'd be out the rest of the year.

Pats need to lose one of their last two also to either Jets or Fish. If we win 3 of last 4 and lose Eagles game, we'd still win division then with 12 wins. If NE gets to 13 wins, we can't win the division.

1 Yeah surprising not more comments on Chase not being able to catch Benford. That was a bit surprising. 3 Not sure I'd call Johnson slipping on a snow covered field a mistake, just somethign that's part of the game. 4 Both teams were playing on the same field so hard to totally excuse it, but I'd think easier for a bigger heavier TE to get better footing on a snow covered field so may have been why Allen didn't really nook to WR much during the game. Bonus I'm guessing the Bills took too much time celebrating after the TD, they would have got called for a delay of game penalty on extra point, so he called TO?? When I was watching I was thinking, come one get out there and kick the point so I do think the clock was running out.

In some cases if the testing required to spell the word "cat", they may never play again.

Maybe? Read an article a month or so ago about how players know what to say when being tested to pass. There's an independent doctor, if he says the right things, hard to argue the player was taken advantage of. Seems the players don't want to sit out so game the system. Maybe the hope for the player is to says the right things, passes keeps playing, next day he comes in and says his head hurts, gets a week off of practice and with a little luck he's ruled eligible to play next week, worse case he sits out next week. But in the heat of the game, they want to keep playing. And yes worst case he's a vegetable in 20 years, but not sure the players worry much about that. Does the league need a better system probably, but likely hard to figure out what that is without having half a team often ruled out of game.

Speaking of injuries, I watched the end of the Steelers Ravens game and they interviewed Rodger, there were still some remnants of his nose plant from last weeks game.

Likely they did, but as was posted someplace else, the players know what to say to pass the test and continue playing. It was strange that Dawkins finished the game, then mid week was in CP. Does that mean on Wednesday he self reported?

As many have already stated, think it's too late, plus in spite of what the biased fan on this site may feel, the 4:25 game is Green Bay at Denver which is a very good game and as popular as the Bills are, I'm willing to bet there are more Green Bay fans . So not happening

Not really! It's just that there's a contingent that want Beane and McD gone and think the team will be better if that happens. Anytime they can find even the slightest thing to pile on and rip either of them, it's a feeding frenzy. Like a couple people posted when was the last time Ingram played, but lets make this into a big deal!

Think the players at the bottom of the roster understand, it's a business and these are the tactics used every week by every team. If it were Sept and some other team wanted him and told him, he'd be active every week and play alot, he'd maybe prefer going there. But at this point in the year, unless it were another team wit ha good chance of going deep into playoffs, my guess is he'll have no problem coming back here. In the case of Slay that could have been Philly, but oh well

So for all the comments regarding how poor Coleman is, from article in todays Athletic regarding #3 overall pick Abdul Carter, article also talked about some of the things LT did back in the day and apparently Parcells allowed. Article states Daboll tended to look the other way with Carter, but the guy who took over for him Carter had to sit out the opening series of the Giants’ Week 11 loss to the Packers, after he was asleep in the team facility at the time of the walk-through, Dan reported. (Carter denied the charge, saying on social media he was undergoing recovery, not sleeping.) Just two weeks later, Carter was again benched, this time for the entire first quarter of Monday’s loss to the Patriots. The reason? He missed a special teams meeting. After the game, Carter said, “S— happens,” before later apologizing for letting his teammates down. Taylor used to miss time for other reasons. One Sunday night, he drove home from playing golf, saw the stadium lights on and realized he was missing his team’s game. “I thought it was a Monday night game,” Taylor told James Brown. “I (told Parcells), don’t blame me. Blame the foursome in front of me. They were so slow.” When his Giants defensive coordinator, Bill Belichick, told head coach Bill Parcells about Taylor’s tardiness, Parcells asked, “Well, why’d you start the meeting before he got there?”

James Harrisons response was even worse. He said Tomlin is a good coach, but not a great coach.

Voted the most boring SB winning team of all time in my book!

Shula did with two back in the early 70's but do agree with your point overall.

Should probably add Montana and Bradshaw to that list, though they are kind of "old school" era. But agree with you overall.

I do agree on the first part. Second part not so sure that Tomlin isn't considered damaged goods at this point. Seems teams all want the new shiny OC innovators and Tomlin (or McD) doesn't fit that mold. The one exception being the Raiders.

So you want another guy that should have been fired years back. As read in a number of places, the game may have passed Tomlin by. Even when he had Big Ben, he only won SB one time. Excluding Allen's rookie year, McD has never had a losing season either when he had a legit QB so why would Tomlin be an upgrade? I'd keep McD forever if my only other choice was Tomlin!

Yeah I saw LA and just thought Rams. As far as I'm concerned Chargers are the San Diego Chargers!

So the only problem with that is Allen likes the scramble plays. Recall when Diggs first arrived, in an interview Allen stated: "I told Diggs 3 things, catch the ball when I throw it to you, and get open, (Don't recall the 3rd thing he told him" Many QB's want the WR to run precise routes, Allen doesn't seem to care about that nearly as much. Maybe as Allen has gotten older he does care more, but don't think he's at the level of Brady, or Burrow in that regard.

I lived in Section V for over 30 years, left around 2008. Can recall many years the regular season games started Labor Day and weekend ended around Columbus Day weekend, then sectionals started and usually the state championship was over Thanksgiving weekend, think they played like 7 regular season games. Live in NC now and the season there starts a week earlier and most years the state championship would end the weekend before Christmas. Same in Florida and I'm sure Texas follows a similar schedule. Sounds like NY has extended their season some from what was played when i left in 2008, but still can't compete wit these other states in length of the season and the more games you play, over time, players improve.

Weren't drives 6 and 7 the fumble and the Int, so not many snaps those two series anyway?

Not likely as that is the one week where both CBS and Fox have a 4:25 game that day and CBS has Green Bay at Denver so would not want to give that up. Fox doesn't have the best choice of 4:25 games, but doubt that CBS would give it up and the Sunday night game involves Dallas who is always a big draw so not likely NBC would want to give that one up. Actually CBS has 3 very good early 1:00 games that day, Bills @ NE, Rams @ Chiefs, and Balt @ Bengals so could just as easily argue in favor of flexing the other two also. Don't know if they flex to Monday night? That's kind of a dud, Steelers at Miami, but even there, Steelers draw well on TV too.

Dec 28th around 11:00 PM near or at the conclusion of the Sunday night game. They used to announce it at halftime, but lately it's been at the end of the game. But if I were to guess, I'd say 1:00 Sunday. The only way it could be later would be if Chargers and Bills are fighting for last playoff spot, the nmay want game to go up against Chargers 4:00 start time. Looking ahead at schedule I wonder if the NE at Balt game will be flexed to 4:25 on Dec 21st? Would think that's a better game than Steelers at Lions and Vegas at Houston??

I think of the two I'd sign Edwards first as McGovern has looked kind of shaky a few times and got beat clean. I do wonder if he's playing hurt, if so then my opinion would change. I think they may try to keep one as not sure they want so much churn on the O-line. Dawkins also has looked a bit shaky so may be looking in 2027 to shed him so for that reason would prefer one change per year.