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10m is not well paid for the type of player he is. That's an underpay. That's what 30 year old Aaron Jones is being paid. Josh Jacobs is making 12m. Alvin Kamara at 29, who's a very similar RB is making 12.5. It's fine to say that you personally wouldn't pay for a RB. But to suggest 10m is "well paid" or a solid offer for who he is isn't accurate.

That's exactly my take away. I remember listening to him on his infamous WGR rant talk about the strength of their Offensive Line and the Running Game and thinking "hold on - you're not paying your top Running Back either". It's clear in his words and actions that a move like Pittsburgh made for DK Metcalf is something he's simply not going to do now that we've paid Josh what he's being paid (on top of the mountain of guys he chooses to retain every year). My hope for Cook is that he puts in another very good year and that at the start of the offseason if we haven't gotten a deal done that works for both sides already, we Transition Tag him. So long as there isn't any ridiculous overpay offers, match it.

That was 2 years ago. And again, that was 9.5 sacks on 654 snaps v. Epenesa's 6.5 sacks on 387 snaps. He had to be on the field for almost 300 more snaps than Epenesa to get 3 more sacks. And that completely ignores last year where he had 5.5 sacks on almost exactly the same amount of snaps. He won't be getting anywhere near that 650+ number if he were here. This stat you're going back to isn't the argument you think it is.

Clowney is nearing the end of the line. But he still doesn't go from being a full time starter straight to a "camp body" competing for a spot. Someone will sign him as an off the bench situational pass rusher and guarantee him a roster spot. Let's compare those sack numbers via snap counts: 2023 Clowney - 9.5 sacks on 654 snaps 2023 Epenesa - 6.5 sacks on 387 snaps 2024 Clowney - 5.5 sacks on 652 snaps 2024 Epenesa - 6.0 sacks on 612 snaps Then you factor in age - Clowney is 32, Epenesa is 26 (will turn 27 this year). Epenesa also has him on reliability and wear and tear. Getting rid of Epenesa for Clowney is a downgrade in practically every way except for name value.

Maybe. They need guys to throw to the pass catchers. They may just call up Buechele and/or White to do that. Unlikely that whomever they invite will be signed if they do though. They don't bring more than 4 to Camp and they've had Buechele around for a while. I doubt any Undrafted that's floating around now unsigned is going to make them cut him.

Didn't even make it past the first "if" in this scenario 😄

Half expected to see someone post "he's saying he's butting heads with Josh - cancer get him out of here!"

He hasn't really done that in his career. And 6 years in with injury issues, I don't think it's wise for whomever signs him to expect him to do it and do it well at an NFL level and also stay healthy.

If you're bringing him back to be a Starter and paying him a bag, absolutely not. Terrible idea. If you're bringing him back as a Blocking WR who's your 5th option on a cheap deal (possibly minimum since he's being paid by Jacksonville) and isn't forced the ball to unless he's open - I don't see an issue with bringing him to Camp. Considering we paid Josh Palmer a relatively decent sized long term bag and invested pick 33 into Keon Coleman combined with our cap situation, if we brought him in the first scenario isn't really an option for him. But right now, our 5th WR is basically being handed to Elijah Moore (unless you consider Tyrell Shavers, Kaden Prather, Laviska Shenault, etc. as legitimate competition). And there's questions on his fit in the locker room and his skills and his contract is probably one that doesn't have much guaranteed money that would preclude us from moving on from him. I don't think it's crazy to think Gabe could make him expendable or at the very least really push him to earn that spot. Ultimately, it comes down to Josh for me. If Josh wants him, who are we to say "no you can't have him"? If Josh doesn't care or doesn't want him, then don't bother. But even if it's a move Josh is pulling for, I think it would also come down to Gabe. Does he want to come back for a reserve spot duty role that is guaranteed nothing and is paid little? Regardless of what posters say of him in this thread, it's likely he has a better opportunity elsewhere.

Unless you're talking about Kaden Prather or Tyrell Shavers (who were going to be cut anyways) or that a move for Davis would make them carry a 6th WR instead of the standard 5 - this comment doesn't really track. Most likely, signing Gabe Davis would mean one of Davis or Moore wouldn't make the team. Maybe Curtis Samuel would be traded. For the most part, they have a set number they roll with at each position. I don't see Gabe Davis coming in meaning we're cutting some young developmental players at another position. And the developmental guy at WR is Coleman who isn't going anywhere and the aforementioned Prather, Shavers, etc. who wouldn't make the roster anyways.

There is no larger veteran that is an upgrade from Daquan Jones available. Cut him and we're rolling with just Walker at 1T (with the occasional pass rush package of Sanders next to Oliver) and Carter. If they were going to move on from Jones this offseason, they'd have either a.) been more proactive in signing a veteran 1T to replace him early in FA and/or b.) Would have Drafted someone in the first couple Rounds. If he were to be cut before the season started, it's pretty likely he would represent the top 1T on the market. Teams don't cut starting quality 1T's coming out of camp very often.

I did say aloud "I better not hear Landon Jackson here" just because I knew they met with him a ton, fit a need, and had Bills DNA written all over him. When we did Draft him in the 3rd, I was happy we got him there. But I thought he was in play at 30 based on Mocks and that would have ruined the night for me. Sanders wasn't even a thought at 30. I don't know how i'd have reacted.

Agreed. I had thought with the way they put it out there themselves, "was this all a publicity stunt?"

Just started watching it now. I'm suprised to see an official Buffalo Bills video start off and publicize the WGR rant.

No, we just restructured him last year.

We picked up Tremaine's 5th Year Option before we let him walk. If Dalton looks like he did last season this year, that won't be happening.

It really depends on what you consider tight. As it stands, we're at 10m under with a projected 17m jump in the Salary Cap. Which puts us at 26th in the league. Yes, we can come up with more space. But we'll also need to fill at least 15 or 16 2025 roster spaces on expiring contracts from that list, plus another 3 or 4 that will be let go to make space. And in 2026 (thus far) - we only have a standard 7 Draft Picks (and the last pick or two you can't really count on). So even with extra space, we're probably looking at another year of a bunch of 1 year FA deals with some mid tier to upper mid tier guys mixed in to fill holes, leaving us with not a lot to play with. But maybe he'll surprise us with a big ticket item somewhere, depending on the strength of the Rookie class out of the gate and the growth of others in Year 2/3. I think given the amount of long term contracts we've been handing out every year and the number Josh is at going forward, gone are the days of big time, long term "Splash" FA signings or Trades like Stefon Diggs and Von Miller. I'd love to be wrong, but every year the board says "this is the year he goes all in" while year after year - his words and actions say otherwise. He's very much a 'Draft, Develop, Retain' focused GM.

Offensive Line isn't a rotation position. The starting Offensive Line stays in and plays practically 100% of snaps - unless there's injury. They're not pulling McGovern out to put SVP unless he's injured, dinged up, or needs an occasional breather.

But is he fun?

Absolutely true. Comparing him as a prospect to Mayfield is absolutely ludicrous. If he were a Mayfield like prospect, he'd not only be Drafted 1st in the CFL Draft - he'd have been Drafted in the first in the NFL Draft. I will say though, a 2nd Round Pick in the CFL Draft isn't like being Drafted in the 2nd in the NFL. There's only 9 teams in the CFL. You have to get beyond the halfway point of Round 4 in the CFL before you eclipse Pick 32.

Well first he would need to be signed to a UDFA contract. We didn't sign him, he's just coming in for a tryout during Mini-Camp. And we're not the only one's trying him out or even his first tryout. He was just in the Packers Rookie mini-camp. There's a chance they could sign him before we even have a chance to look at him. If the Packers don't sign him and we like what we see and we sign him, he'd need to beat out Shane Buechele. And we'd probably need to have cut Mitch Trubisky and be rolling with Mike White as our Backup. Or else he'll need to beat Shane Buechele *and* Mike White - as it's pretty likely that if Trubisky's here, Mike White would be the favorite to be our PS QB, unless he left for a better opportunity elsewhere. It's also likely that they'd have to have liked him enough right from Mini-Camp to outright cut Buechele, as it's unlikely they'd bring 5 QB's to camp. And after all that, he'd have to prefer to be an NFL Practice Squad QB over a potential CFL starter. As he was just Drafted with a Top 20 Pick in the CFL Draft. Long story short, it's probably unlikely (though not impossible) and a long list of "if's" for that to happen; - If the Packers don't sign him - If we sign him from Mini-Camp - If Trubisky is cut or White leaves - If he beats Buechele - If he passes on the CFL for a PS spot

Really not that weird. Especially this time of year and with FA's that just came in for a visit and left without a contract Browns just officially signed and announced Diontae Johnson today as well and that was done before Moore.

Yeah, I think Knox, Samuel, and Bass are likely to be cut. I'd add Taylor Rapp to the list too. Everyone else, I don't see as very likely.

True list in guys they'll look to retain? Because even with the guys that are on the list that likely won't be here this season, there's still many other players you didn't list that whether they're here or not in 2026 - they will be here this year and their roster spots will need to be replaced. I wouldn't call it likely. He'd have to fall off a cliff and one of Hancock or Strong would REALLY have to impress right out of the gate. I think it's a lot to ask for a Late 5th Round or High 6th Round Draft Pick to replace a 2023 2nd Team All Pro in one season.