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Brown, Claypool, = Pickens... no... just no...

I would totally look at Hendrickson...

Well... if given an option to only fix 1 thing Defense or WR I totally pick Defense it was atrocious... it was predicated on turn overs and holding other teams to FGs... horrible passive plan with the definition of mediocrity on the field... that said... a true vertical threat is a huge need for this team.

despite the obvious cheating by the ref's , the inept coaching, the terrible defense, bad play calling... bad drafting and all of these things that we contribute this loss too... Maybe he is simply mad because he had the ball in his hands with a few minutes left and could have led a game winning drive that ended it all.. and didnt... if I were him thats what I would be mad at... no 13 seconds... no stupid coin flip, no bass missing a FG all with him on the sidelines... the game ended with him having a chance to end the speculation... and it unfortunately didnt happen... I certainly dont want him to be happy... he has to feel as angry as us times 10...

They only count if you would have actually drafted them... 2 out of 3 we had a shot... Jefferson was no way to know he would be there when the trade went down.. but if he was we would have probably taken another mediocre DL that cant disrupt

Skipping opening game too for his re canonization...

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As did the Chiefs... no one is afraid of anyone deep in this offense... this is a problem.

It true they said the same things about him as Allen, Raw, High ceiling, boom or bust, etc... that being said... we really do need to stop trading with the Chiefs.. if they want something we should try to stop it... they seem to know what they are doing.

Someone said it was 9mm post 6/1

I agree... he is 27 so young he also has a 27mm cap hit next year so he would need to come with an extention... I am not saying they wont do it but the price would be really high... Garrett might be an easier target... it is the Browns after all... lol plus they may be more cap motivated and he is 29

Love the idea of him coming home.. but I am not sure that another edge on the downside of their career for big money is the move to make here...

And they still thought he was an option... can AJ Klein play CB? lol oh wait...

Agreed... never generated 4 man pressure, never kept OL off of our LBs and safeties... no one on D that is the game wrecking molding that helps cover deficiencies.

I hope you find your way back... we are all frustrated.

Spot on here... not only that... but in the end, forget Pro Bowlers per se... this Defense has no leader, no guy that the other team has to game plan around... and they certainly dont come on like a pack of wild no name dogs that you have to fight every one of them... they pretty much just grab their ankles and you need to run routes and avoid their a$$es...

I think you are right, I think he knows... maybe he goes back to Denver for one year... or someplace... but I think his time is done here... gonna be some critical moves in the offseason getting rid of Von seems like one of the easy ones... there will be much harder methinks...

This quote on the surface sounds extreme... but I will say this Von. Jones, Oliver, Epenesa, Groot, Douglas every safety that started for us, Williams and Milano underwhelmed.... Taron and Benford were keys, Bernard with his salary was a net plus... other than that... they could upgrade everyone about every where including every Defensive coach we have starting with Babich.

Babich to me is a disaster... unless he is just a figure head to McD and he is still running the D.... but it seems to me like Babich was a significant player in our issues on D this year... personnel was clearly another... like Damar should be starting no where in football except maybe the CFL...

Emotions running really high right now.. you cannot have the level of passion and dedication that this fan base has and not have an equal and opposite reaction when it all comes crashing down... I am in the lets just give us a minute crowd... taking everything with a grain of salt for the next week regarding what people say crazy and stuff..

I guess I will never understand the cap truly... I just keep hearing we are in much better position next year.

I agree here... I think we need to have Beane accept that his assistants that evaluate player personnel need to change.

Or Xavier Worthy instead of Coleman... oh wait... LOL

Can some body beer this post... If we do I think that this will be the only time I have seen every emoji possible used on the same post LOL... ok... I dont think he choked. I do not think it was his best game... I do think that Brady p**ped the bed...

Literally a complete overhaul....