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I saw this live and it was great! Mahomes also said something like ‘Even in the offseason a Buffalo Bills is trying to get me’. I was surprised Von seems close with Mahomes and Kelce. He was very supportive and complimentary of them. I didn’t know that before watching this.

Your triggering my ptsd. 😂

I hear ya there haha. For this analogy let’s pretend this is a virgin man (Bills no superbowls). Not getting home still makes this hypothetical man a virgin no matter how many times he got to third base. Getting to the Super Bowl is third base in this analogy to be clear.

Mahomes also had a passing camp before the draft where he threw to his receivers and draft prospects. That’s something I’d love for Allen to do. Not only would the timing with Bills receivers improved but also scout draft prospects as well. Chiefs drafted Rashee Rice who was among several prospects that attended that camp to work out with Mahomes. This doesn’t mean Allen is bad because he doesn’t do this in the offseason. I know you’re hyper sensitive to anything Allen related. I agree with you that what he does is his business in the offseason. This is just the type of extra stuffs that I’d wish Allen do. Especially with how last season ended. But then again, who knows if Bills receivers would show up on their own time for something like that. Especially Diggs.

Yes winning a superbowl takes the whole team. But you surely know that’s also a qb metric, especially an elite one. Fair or not that’s how qbs are judged. Allen is no exception. That’s why that position gets paid the most and is arguably the most influential position in all of sports. As for the second highlight I think you missed my acknowledgment on that point. I said even though he didn’t advanced as far in 2021 he was so lights out that the expectations were still high and trajectory intact. That was why almost everyone was on the Bills superbowl train before last season. Look I get it. You think Allen is great and not regressing. I think he’s off his initial pace and trajectory. No big deal. The important thing is we both want the team to do well.

No arguing here on my end. We’re just fans expressing our opinions. 😎 To me getting to the Superbowl and winning it is Allen’s trajectory. So not progressing towards that is a step back. You’re right it isn’t just 1 one. It’s a pattern. If you’re not progressing you’re regressing. Hopefully he and the team will take the next step this coming season. Cheers!

Great post! I’ve been accused of not being a real fan as well for having criticisms of Allen when he played poorly. Some fans just can’t handle anything less than adulation of him. He’s not perfect. He’d be the first to say that.

By championships criteria. He’s an elite qb as you noted. You said he’s top 3. I say he’s top 2. Regardless, many projected him to win multiple superbowls (some still do). He’s going into his 6th season and is getting further from that goal. Let recap so you see how the trajectory changed course. First year: You can see his improvements and progress. Year 2: Made the playoffs. Lost the wildcard round. Even though they didn’t advance far it’s a milestone making the playoffs. Year 3: Went even further in the playoffs. Advanced to the AFCCG. Lost to a better team. But the potential is palpable. Future looks bright. Year 4: Caught lightning in the playoffs. Even though the team was short of the AFCCG everyone understood because he was masterful in that divisional game. Future again looks bright. Everything set up for year 5. Year 5: Lighting continued in the early part of the season but fizzled bad. Culminating in his worse playoff performance to date against the Bengals. Lifeless for both him and the team. Now there are questions if he can ever win 1 much less multiple superbowls. So tell me again how his trajectory hasn’t dipped? You laid out a bunch of stats and that’s great. But Phillip Rivers accumulated a lot of stats in his career and will probably be a hof. No superbowl appearance for him. Are you good with Allen doing that? So I stand by my statement. Very critical year upcoming. If the team gets bounced from the playoffs with another lackluster performance from Allen then it wouldn’t be good. Not saying he has to win the superbowl next season. But he has to show that ‘21 playoffs form.

This coming season is a critical one for him. His trajectory has taken a dip. Let’s see if he can turn it around in the right direction.

Great idea!

Oh I disagree here. After this past postseason I think he’ll learn and improve. He has experienced playing at the highest of highs and lowest of lows from an execution standpoint. Those are invaluable experiences for a person to improve. My hope anyway.

Maybe. Just playing devil’s advocate here. Maybe he isn’t the best qb. Maybe that’s why some people, me included, that thinks he can improve to being the best but he isn’t there yet. I saw the best qb got his team a win with 13sec left. Say what you will about coaching blunders but that guy didn’t flinched and delivered for his team.

This is an interesting analogy. Would it be bad to get to 3rd base 4 times but never get home? I’d say frustratingly bad. So I voted bad in the poll.

If this upcoming season ends in another lackluster playoff performance loss he would.

Thank you for saying this! Bills can win it all. But it won’t happen if the team doesn’t play better, including the qb.

This is what happens to fans when the team can’t get it done. We play hypotheticals.

Which means what? Indy beat the Chiefs last regular season too. Does that mean Indy is better than KC and wouldn’t have to worry about them anymore? Cincy beat KC in the regular season last year but lost to them in the playoffs. Do you think Bengals fans are bragging about that regular season win while the Chiefs went on to get another superbowl ring? Well maybe they do. They’re Bengals fans after all. Some fans gotta stop hanging on to meaningless regular season wins over KC. Chiefs still ended up with better playoffs seeding last year despite losing that regular season game. A great win for Buffalo but ultimately meaningless. I don’t care if Bills lose at KC this fall just beat them when it matters…in the playoffs.

Who said anything about finding another qb?

So this tantrum is over? Wonder when the next one will happen.

No doubt defensive players have this line of thoughts. Each tackle in and of itself may not cause much damage. But cumulative hits throughout the season will wear anybody down.

I must have missed when Bills beat the Chiefs in the playoffs.

Wow didn’t realized Allen needs to be defended in this thread. If status quo isn’t working then everyone needs to improve. This is pretty standard stuffs for any teams, organizations, individuals etc.

This is part of processing. He’s a tad slower than Mahomes on this aspect. He doesn’t see the whole field where all his guys are relative to where the defenders are. Protection issues definitely affect this but it’s also on him. Hopefully this part will be better next season. If it is then turnovers would go down and numbers of 5yds dump offs that goes for 20yds will go up.

Agreed. My original comment was in jest. Didn’t think it would ruffle feathers.

I didn’t realized I have that much impact on the team. Truly flattered really.