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You forgot Jordan Mills... to mentor the young O-linemen... probably won't see the field...

Very unlikely. He needs more ramp up time after missing camp and preseason. I already said to you that the only difference is the timing.

Because he probably told the Bills that he didn't want to be in camp. Most long tooth vets hate camp. Because the max pay for practice squad is $25,000 per week... Poyer prorates to $450K for the season which is way more than a position coach makes.

Isn't this very similar to what Micah did last year. The only difference so far is the timing.

That's not gonna fly around here... we need you to have a knee-jerk, negative overreaction... Yes Jordan Phillips and Jordan Poyer... makes you wonder if Beane is playing a silly word game.

Yes. He's old enough tp be Tremaine's father. Not sure but I just heard the new stadium's gonna have a real grass field! I guess that depends on your definition of "surprise." This board is already crucifying Beane for drafting Carter.

I got more frustrated with BananaB. You said that it would be nice if McDermott adapted a bit and I replied that I thought he had, based on the numerous offseason moves. Then he asked me if I thought people should be happy with the offseason moves, which misses the point completely. My point is that the Bills did adapt and invest in the defense... that's all. There's a difference between an investment and a return on investment. We have to wait on the return on investment but in the meantime, I guess some people want to pre-judge the moves and complain without waiting to see how it turns out.

No, this is not what I was saying. I was saying that there are fans that feel entitled to a Super Bowl victory. I've posted on the idea of "deserve" upthread so I won't repeat it here. And I'm not saying, nor did I say that people should be happy and content... I too criticize the team from time to time. But some people here are really in need of some perspective. The criticism of team by some on this forum is not commensurate with the team's performance and these posters really come off sound like spoiled babies. That's what I'm talking about.

I've heard of him!

I'm not one of those who only criticize the team for their shortcomings and won't give them the credit for ending the drought and making the team a model franchise. Every team makes mistakes but this organization is one of the finest in the NFL and it's been a very long time since we could say that.

As I've already stated in this topic, I've been a Bills fan since 1968 (and a Sabres fan since their inception in 1970). Do I/we deserve a championship? "Deserve" is a word that hopes for a perfect and just world because it comes in the form of either reward or punishment. It could be argued that in a perfect and just world, that our many years of fandom and numerous finals disappointments should be rewarded with a championship... that we deserve one. But we don't live in a perfect and just world so in that sense, the only thing we deserve is what we get. Related but separate is the question of whether just a single championship will satisfy us... I think it depends on the individual with those who can enjoy this era of Bills football likely to be satisfied with just one and those that are bitching, moaning, criticizing, and complaining unlikely to be satisfied. JMO. The F word only has 4 letters... spell much? 😆

It's inarguably a significant investment... we just don't know if it'll pay off yet. It's like buying a lot of stock... we don't know the ROI but that doesn't change the fact that they invested heavily. We're awaiting the return.

That they've suffered for a long time and "deserve" a Super Bowl Championship and that nothing less will make them happy.

Marv is a marvelous marvel. Amazing man... fine human being.

I'm not telling anyone to be happy or not... I'm saying they adapted. It's pretty clear that 11 significant moves on defense (6+3+2) are an attempt to address a deficiency ("adapt a bit") as I was suggesting to Puckman. Feel however the hell you want.

The Bills added 6 draft picks and 3 prominent free agents to the defensive side and added Senior Defensive Assistant Ryan Nielsen and Co-DL Coach Jason Rebrovich to the defensive coaching staff. Don't you think that's an attempt to adapt?

Walla!

The Rams are cutting a LB they drafted in the 5th round this year???? (tries not to type the name Shaun Dolac) 😆

I understand what you're saying. I'm in my 60s and have been a fan since 1968... a few years after the 2 AFL Championships and just in time for many decades of mostly bad football. As for stepping up my game, I'm happy with life... it has exceeded my expectations. I recognize that I've been very lucky and possibly have more than I deserve. Maybe that's why I have less riding on the Bills... because it would seem greedy to ask for more than I already have. Of course I post here multiple times a day so I care about the Bills a lot, but my happiness doesn't hinge on the team and I place my achievements and the Bills achievements in different buckets. Anyways it's a good discussion and I feel like I understand better why some people feel the way they do.

The fact that the writer's suggestion didn't happen tells us all we need to know about White's trade value.

I'll ride with Hailee Steinfeld... (even if she won't ride with me)

This is a great point... that longtime fans are running out of patience and just want to win the prize... I get it. But some of the stuff I read here just seems to lack any kind of perspective.

This is what gives me confidence that the D-line is no longer a problem... Joey Bosa Larry Ogunjobi Michael Hoecht AJ Sanders Landon Jackson Deone Walker The Bills didn't just double down on D-line... they sextupled down. IMO the investment is so heavy that the return on investment is assured even if it's some fraction of 6... the chances that they're not improved are almost non-existent. If only 3 of the above play to expectations they'll be much improved. Barring injury I'm expecting 4 of them to contribute significantly this year.

To the surprise of absolutely no one...

This season was already shaping up as a "Voyage of the Damned" for the Dolphins and now this...