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This is a reasonable response but: Many (most?) Bills fans here seem to believe that anything short of a Super Bowl win with Josh will be a franchise failure. The acquisition cost of a player like Parsons makes this an "all-in move" which implies all-in for what? We know the answer of course. So modifying the question, if the Bills acquired Parsons and he maintained his excellent level of play but we didn't win a Super Bowl, would the Bills have won the trade?

"1st Buffalo Goal, his second of the season, scored by number 20 Brent Peterson. assists to number 7 Dale McCourt, and number 23 Hannu Virta. Peterson, from McCourt and Virta. Time of the Goal, 13:22."

My position has been that you cannot declare a winner of this trade because we don't know the results. Here's a related question... to all those who are wowed by Parsons' performance in his first two games: Can Green Bay "win" this trade if they end up not winning a Super Bowl with Parsons?

Agreed. And even though I would advise against corporal punishment in this case (him being a respected veteran), maybe the implication of corporal punishment... maybe have a group of linemen take him into a small, dark room to have that stern talking to. Maybe have one of them holding a truncheon or a black jack... perhaps have a thumb screw on a table... just to drive the point home. From Brittanica: straight–arm /ˈstreɪtˌɑɚm/ noun plural straight–arms Britannica Dictionary definition of STRAIGHT–ARM [count] American football : the act of pushing another player away from you with the palm of your hand while your arm is fully extended — called also stiff-arm — straight–arm verb straight–arms; straight–armed;straight–arming [+ object] The ball-carrier straight-armed the tackler. Both terms are acceptable.

Agreed but conversely an eligible offensive player shouldn't put himself in that position. It's perhaps a failure of coaching as well but Coleman played that rep as if he was unaware of the rule.

Behind a paywall but to clear up once and for all... because there are two versions of how Oliver was injured: "“It’s unfortunate. Things happen, come up through practice. He got stepped on, friendly fire type of deal,” Bills head coach Sean McDermott said on Friday. "

I believe you guys aren't familiar with the rule. The call according to Referee John Hussey was "illegal touching" (of a forward pass). Article 8. Illegal Touching Of A Forward Pass: It is a foul for illegal touching if a forward pass (legal or illegal) thrown from behind the line of scrimmage:is first touched intentionally or is caught by an originally ineligible offensive player. If such a pass is caught, it is a live ball; (Penalty: Loss of five yards at the previous spot). or It is a foul for illegal touching if a forward pass (legal or illegal) first touches or is caught by an eligible offensive receiver who has gone out of bounds, either of his own volition or by being legally forced out of bounds and has reestablished himself inbounds. If such a pass is caught, it is a live ball. (Penalty: Loss of down at the previous spot). To me this invalidates 2 points that are the basis for arguing that it was an error in officiating: That he was forced out of bounds by the defender... it doesn't matter. That he re-established himself inbounds. Again it doesn't matter... according to the letter of the law, he cannot be the first person to touch the ball when he gets back inbounds.

Of Phillips, Logue, or Mathis, Mathis is the last one I'd want to play because of his unfamiliarity with the system. Already the Bills defense is struggling with assignments and I don't think it would be helpful having a guy on the field who's unfamiliar with the system. I understand the concern caused by Oliver's injury because the Jets have a strong running game. That said, I'm glad that we're in the soft portion of our schedule. After the Jets we have: Dolphins Saints Patriots @ Falcons @ Panthers We have a good chance at running the table without Oliver. Our next real challenge is the Chiefs (at home) on November 2nd. In the grand scheme of things, Oliver's injury comes at a good time.

I was surprised that Ekeler was being used as their primary back. Between his size and career curve (9th season, over 1600 touches) I would use him as a 3rd down back. They traded away Brian Robinson recently and it looks like they'll turn to McCroskey who's a 7th rounder.

This post made me think about all the components of offensive football, the talent, the system, the philosophy, etc. I know our system is often described as more of a Perkins-Erhardt and that some teams use more of a West Coast foundation, others an RPO... and that most offenses are hybrids that utilize common elements. I don't think their talent is measurably better than ours but watching Green Bay run their Shanahan-McVay system, it looked like they do a better job of spacing their receivers and giving Love more easy throws. I sometimes think the Bills don't quite have that level of passing fluency even though we have arguable the best QB in the league. It's my impression that Brady's offense doesn't give Josh enough easy throws.

Agreed but regardless, it's not possible to envision that Daniels or Love will ever be at the level of Josh. I pinch myself every day that my favorite football player of all time is also one of the greatest football players of all time... and that he happens to be the quarterback of my favorite sports team. That's my takeaway from pretty much every football game I watch these days.

It's a very old restaurant and the original owner's name was Adolph. Yes, @DrZ, how long Is your stay in Buffalo? Are you staying for the Dolphins game one week from tonight? Do you have a car or are you using ride sharing services?

Both Jayden Daniels and Jordan Love made Mike Sando's QB tier 2: "A Tier 2 quarterback can carry his team sometimes but not as consistently. He can handle pure-passing situations in doses and/or possesses other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above Tier 3. He has a hole or two in his game." I'm watching these guys and again thanking the almighty powers that Josh Allen is our quarterback.

Love is a many-splendored thing. It's not the size of the fight in the dog... wait... Anyways something about a dog.

The spread: Green Bay -3 The moneyline: Washington +150 Green Bay -180 Over/Under: 48.5 Consensus Straight-up: Green Bay 88%

I did not know this... thanks for the context.

Thank you for this Virgil. You're an excellent poster and a great role model here. My thoughts on the defensive debate: There are 6 defensive rookies and 5 defensive free agents that are trying to assimilate. There's been modifications to the defensive coaching staff. IF there's going to be improvement, it won't be immediate. It's more likely to be a process that plays out over the season. I agree that the Ravens are a great offense AND a bad matchup for the Bills D. I agree that Rapp and Bernard were possibly the two worst defenders on the field. Posters here are fond of thinking of Daquan Jones as a 1T but he really isn't. He's a big guy who can play that role and is certainly our best approximation of a 1T but he's really an athletic, penetrating big guy... not that different from Jordan Phillips. I agree with the misgivings about giving Bernard the extension. That said, he tends to exemplify the weaknesses on this defense and yet, also their never-say-die attitude. He has an obvious knack for making big plays as shown in the last two games against the Ravens (remember it was he, who recovered the Henry fumble). On Bishop's extremely late blitz, (regardless of coaching) he was in no-man's land and the only chance of him making any impact on that play would have been to try to find a useful space to position himself in the defensive backfield. I would say that whatever coaching he has received, a great player knows when to break the rules and how to react to unforeseen circumstances. This season is clearly a fan referendum on the competency of the defensive coaching. I think Babich is on the hot seat.

I attended SUNY schools and Long Islanders were everywhere... often heard before seen. The ones from Nassau County are particularly obnoxious. Culturally they're confused in that they've become so self-parodic that they don't even know how to act... they're like caricatures lampooning as stereotypes... self-perpetuating satires... they're mockeries of real New Yorkers in the same way that Orcs are bastardizations of Elves. 😆 I'm exaggerating a bit of course... one of my dearest friends is a Nassau County Long Islander.

I understand he still practices catching punts... he works out with the local high school team.

Yes, El Cerrito, CA which isn't too far from me. The Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta is an interesting place... When I lived in WNY I used to say that some parts of North Collins aren't that different than some parts of North Carolina.

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Count me among those who feel his hand/glove touched and that the official was in perfect position. You'll notice too that the Ravens didn't protest. At 1:37:40: I was thinking more Galveston. You could see immediately that it was a bad spot and that the spotting official was out of position... well behind the play. You could also see that McDermott didn't like the spot but things were happening quickly because the Bills were in a hurry-up/quick snap mode and in the moment he chose not to challenge. NFL Replay Assist is permitted to review spots but didn't... again I think because of the frantic-ness of the moment. At 1:31:35: Yes, I pointed out in the game thread that former Referee John Parry was hired by the Bills last year in part to assist with challenges. Collinsworth did comment on the throw placement at 1:54:00:

I'm really hoping he puts his signature on this defense. I feel exactly the opposite. Going into week one, I thought we'd lose to Baltimore because of all the new parts but I expect that with the addition of 6 defensive rookies (don't forget Dorian Strong) and 7 veteran free agents that the defense will gel and be a strong unit by season's end. I believe the team will receive a good return on their heavy investments.

During the New York Sack Exchange days (early 1980s) the Jets felt like a bit of a rival.

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