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Many have been saying this for quite some time now. He knew what he was doing with the cryptic messages and things he would say. Some even feel he took a shot at Allen today with this tweet:

Oh I missed that. That is not a bad offer.

Yes, IF you ignore these 3 factors: 1) If you count pre-season. I wouldn't. 2) And if you pay cash (most will finance is my guess). 3) And if you don't take into account opportunity cost, which would be approximately $181,260 over 30 years. Some of this will be offset by hedging against inflation.

That sounds beautiful. Cherry springs state park in PA is a fantastic spot for star-gazing. Perhaps the best spot in the United States. And could be a good option for the Eclipse as well. Phot of Cherry Springs:

You're buying air. I say that non-nefariously. There is simply no intrinsic value. It is a liability with guaranteed cost of more liabilities in the future. No. You bought air. That is all. Of course. That's the plan. When someone invests $50,000 in PSLs, the organization is aware that PSL owners will not forfeit their sunk cost by failing to purchase season tickets, as not doing so would mean losing the initial expenditure. Therefore, the organization knows they can raise ticket prices because the PSL holders are financially committed and that enables the organization to significantly increase ticket pricing because you're "stuck". You either pay the increasing prices every year or you default and lose your money. Of course not. Remember, you bought air. That is all. To be fair to PSE, this isn't really the Bills fault. Any event that you would actually want to go to (think big music acts), the organizer has a contract that they control all tickets. So it's out of the Bills hands. You might be able to get a monster truck rally or something like that though. For any events where they do throw PSL owners are a bone (meaning they offer to sell you tickets at full retail price just like the general public), they dont guarantee that you will have YOUR seats you paid for with the PSL. 30 years. Which means if the team goes through another 20 year drought, you are obligated to continue paying the ever increasing season ticket prices. No matter what. Even if the team is on year 7 of Dick Jauron and we just went 7-10 for the 5th straight season, and they refuses to fire him, and they raise season ticket prices 20% ... you're on the hook to buy them. Yes. As long as you understand going into the process that you are purchasing air, then all is fine.

Just teasing, but that is funny that they (i'm sure 'casually') told you that. If it isn't heated or covered, why can't you see the field? What is the obstruction? And what is the benefit? Ahh. So the seats are just normal outdoor seats (such as rows 1-10 right now at Rich) on the sideline? They are only "club" because you can go inside to get food ... but no heat, or covering.

how dare you

That was indeed frustrating to watch. It feels as if every move they make is a success.

Something something dome.

It has been clear for a while now that Allen and Diggs relationship wasn't the close bond it was in 2020 and 2021. Those who didnt believe it were simply burying their head in the sand.

If youre looking for suggestions, East Club has my vote. The heat and coverage is irreplaceable.

Yes, close to 20,000. As I said. Maybe you’re confused due the 9,000 that wasn’t sold. They essentially had to lower everyone’s prices who purchased in those sections in order to get the last 10k sold. Considering that teams hold back several thousand tickets for individual sales (they don’t sell seasons for all seats), and that the Jets didn’t sell PSL’s (at all) in a lot of the upper decks, those 18,000 seats were likely close to 30% of all season tickets. Summary; The Jets had to reduce PSL pricing on 18,000 PSLS. Atlanta did too. Oakland did too.

I can imagine! It's exactly what the Jets did. And the Falcons. And the Raiders. Although the Raiders (to their credit), ended up reimbursing the fans who paid more at first.

Do you mean like the multi-billionaire in NY (Jets - Woody Johnson) and his team who had to cut their PSL prices in half for nearly 20,000 seats to sell them? Or the billionaire owner in Atlanta that also had to cut their PSL prices? And Oakland? "Shoot for the stars and you will land on the moon". If you think billionaire teams dont mess up... google "New Coke".

I don't see the correlation you're drawing. If I am confident in my analysis, and therefore persistent in my belief, that = emotional ... to you?

Better yet, grab a PSL when the Bills cut the price in half - or when someone sells it on the resale market for penny's on the dollar.

Well said. We took KC down to the wire with 60% of our defense injured. If we had a few of those guys back, we may have found ourselves in the Super Bowl.

Successful for the billionaire owner, yes.

I stand corrected. The Vikings too. I didn’t find any info on this when I looked. The Vikings however publicly announced prices for PSL’s without having to go to the timeshare presentation. They didn’t hide it. The presentation was just to buy the PSL you already knew the price of.

Well said. I was just reading through some older stadium builds and found some interesting tidbits. - The only stadium I could find that also had a timeshare style presentation is the Falcons. They initially were selling the club section fairly quickly and advertised that (remind you of anyone?) and then it slowed down… They ended up cutting the price of PSL’s in HALF in some sections, which angered a lot of fans who paid PSL’s at full price. - The Jets had a similar situation. They reduced the price of nearly 18,000 PSL’s (over 20% of the stadium) in half after a year of trying to sell them. - Raiders reduced the price of PSL’s at their new stadium too, but to their credited, they credited people who already bought PSL’s to the new discounted price.

Yes you were an early adopter of that analogy. You saw what many others couldn’t, and some still can’t, likely because you work directly in architecture and understand what is normal and what is not. You were able to understand very quickly that what the Bills are doing is not normal. I think you pose an excellent question of whether price or presentation is the problem. While a fool and their money are soon parted, I do believe it is a mixture of price and presentation and roll-out. The team created no hype, released very little in the way of renderings, require a timeshare style presentation, and THEN expect people to pay thousands of dollars on top of it. It was a poor plan.

Not sure if you know this (genuinely) but PSL’s do not simply exist in the clubs. They exist in the entire stadium (including the area where I will sit). That being said, I’m not “bitchin”. I am simply speaking truth to the situation. Many attempt to apply an emotion to my posts, but the truth is that I have very few feels on what I post. There are facts, there are numbers, and there is analysis based upon those facts and numbers. Whoever wishes to purchase a PSL should do so. Their choice has no impact on me.

Not anymore. Moved from Jim Kelly Club to M&T club (all exclusive with buffet)

Not that ive seen. Edit; The Falcons had a PSL preview center too, but I don’t know if it was required or just a perk. I have traced back the announcements of the previous decade of new stadiums that I could find, and when the PSL’s were announced, nearly all of them had full write-ups of exactly what was included, how much they would cost in various parts of the stadiums, etc. This was in addition to releasing dozens of renderings and introducing features and advertising benefits of the new stadium. None that I can find have done this shut-lips, timeshare style presentation, with a purposeful restriction of renderings. The Bills are breaking the mold with this process.