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You’re right, but honestly…. dont bother. He’s not listening. The D coordinator of the team said they didn’t want him but he wouldn’t go away and B716 still thinks the guy made it because he is just a good player 😂. Not worth it. PS, to add to your point… Most D1 programs have hundreds of walk-ons trying to make it. Yale has… checks notes.. 7 (according to the head coach).

Because I read up on it. To quote his head coach: “He was small and he couldn’t run fast. I thought ‘he’s not going to be around here really long”. They then go into how he was used as a coach and not a player. Not sure why you’re so determined to spin history into something it wasn’t. His head coach, players on the team, etc all said he was a coach. Not a player. He did not “make the team as a walk-on” in the sense that they accepted him because he was a gifted dude who worked hard. They accepted him to coach other players! Actually the head coach said 7-10 guys showed up for walk-on. Actually they did. The defensive coordinator said in an article that they didn’t really want him but he “just wouldn’t go away” so they finally let him on the team to help them prepare. You can keep trying to spin this if you want but you’re just flat out wrong.

Im aware. And he “made it”, because of his acumen. Not because he was a player. They did not see him as a player, use him as a player, and the articles about him on the team state that he had “no chance” to play. In fact, for the majority of his time there, he was on the JV team (and still didn’t see the field). He was a coach.

Eh… He was a player-coach in D1. Not a’ actual player. He was a walk-on that only suited up for practice, but that was the totality of his “playing”. He is in no stat book because he never was on the field. He was labeled a “player-coach” and a “film room guru”.

…most of Miami’s leadership from last year either signed elsewhere as free agents (Calais Campbell and Jevon Holland), retired (Terron Armstead), are seeking a contract extension that feature raises (Zach Sieler and Jonnu Smith), or have gone silent (Tua Tagovailoa). Nobody is saying it out loud, but it seems the players McDaniel empowered — giving full control of the locker room and the team last season — have turned on him. https://amp.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/omar-kelly/article304254006.html Another beat reporter states that McDaniels was so upset with this report that he hiked up his capri pants even higher.

Not how comp picks work unfortunately. It really depends on who we sign that year too. We may end up getting nothing for Cook. For example, the Giants lost Saquan Barkley - who went on to have ann MVP quality season - and they got 0 comp pick for him because it was cancelled out by them signing Drew freaking Lock.

- If you think we PUNTED from New Englands 35 yard line instead of kicking a field goal because McDermott thought it gave us a better chance to win… - If you think McDermott took Trubisky out and put Mike White in because he wanted to save Trubisky for the playoffs… - If you think we went to the most vanilla offense of all time (loved the decision to run shallow crossers on 3rd and long 😂) in the 4th quarter because we wanted to grab that victory… Then I have oceanfront property in arkansas to sell you… cheap. Who mentioned players? Of course the players played hard.

Wow it keeps getting worse.

Yes, thats true. However, unlike a normal drug test, medical examiners can differentiate between Adderal and Street Meth by the isomer of the compound found. The tox report also stated that Vontae was a known illicit drug user and there was "suspected drug paraphernalia" in his room including "clear capsules containing white and tan powder." I don’t think we (the public) will ever know.

Can you really blame the poster you’re responding to? If someone else posted what you have in this thread, it would be whatever. But you? You have spent years calling everyone under the sun “scum”. Jerry Lewis death thread - you call him scum. OJ’s death thread - you call him scum. Ferguson - scum. JJ Watt - scum. Ty Cobb - scum. Tony Romo - scum. Von Miller - scum. Clemens - scum. Cornelius Bennet - scum. You’ve made a habit of calling countless people “scum” over the years without hesitation, but now you suddenly want to play moral authority and tell everyone not to talk about the fact that some college player — who you probably didn’t even know existed until two weeks ago — literally caused a man’s death and ran from the scene? Save the outrage. That being said, feel awful for his family and the fact that he felt that this was his only way out. Extremely sad. Clearly the outcome of his actions affected him negatively. Says something positive about his character.

Funny but lets not derail this one thread.

It sure seemed like he was trying to find ways for the Pats to win this meaningless (for us) game. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/patriots-meaningless-week-18-victory-came-with-a-potentially-huge-cost

If you read my post then in no universe would you say "you were pretending Ryan Fitzpatrick knew more about the play than Josh Allen" - because that *never* happened. Fitz and Allen were talking about two completely different aspects of the play. Nor would you say "We don't need to debate whether Josh made an incorrect protection call" - because that was *never* the debate. Well, in your mind it was, because you were not reding what I was writing. I never once in that thread claimed Allen did not make the wrong protection call. I stated that he did, but it did not matter, because of what Fitz said. You either: a: did not read my posts b: completely misrepresented my posts Take your pick I guess. Except it wasn't. Below, however, is actual red herring fallacy. As I already mentioned but will allow AI to prove:

No, this never happened. You simply did not read what I what wrote. Which you often do. You ignore half of a persons post and in haste rush to post your opinion. Because in *your* mind, only your opinion matters. Only you are right. Therefore, you should disqualify most of what another person says so you can quickly post the right opinion (yours). No one debated that. Again, you did not read what I wrote. It never was a subject of debate. Again, you simply do not. read. other. peoples. posts. It was pretty simple: 1) I said Josh made the wrong protection call—but that it didn’t matter. 2) You disagreed, saying Josh made the wrong call. 3) I responded: huh? I already admitted he made the wrong call; my point was that it didn’t matter. 4) You disagreed again, insisting Josh made the wrong call. 5) At this point, I realized you were back to your old habit of not actually carefully before responding. Again, despite Allen making the wrong call, it didn't matter—because as Ryan Fitzpatrick pointed out, even the correct protection call would have had no chance at blocking the blitz due to the personnel the Bills had on the field. In summary, you: 1) Did not read what I wrote and in haste rushed to respond - multiple times. 2) Completely misrepresented what Ryan Fitzpatrick said (he never said Josh didn't make the wrong protection call) because you refuse to read the posts you respond to. Hypothetical thought experiments are NOT red herring fallacies. They, by their nature, serve to test principles or explore implications logically. The primary goal of a red herring is to divert attention and avoid addressing the main point of contention. I was attacking the main point of contention via a thought experiment. This is psychology 101. As for the point I was making to Stevewin, I mostly agree with him. I was, however, conducting a thought experiment on how far he was willing to take his stance however.

You know you would be stuck if you answered that hypothetical. You and @Augie agree - but both of you leave out that you can be good enough to make the playoffs *forever*, but never good enough to win a SB.

They’ll hate the best players too. Which, objectively, makes absolutely no sense.

I genuinely do not understand how you don't see the distinction. It is clear, obvious and delineating. I'll try one more time and then leave it at that. Kincaid dropping a pass is a tangible failure - he didn’t perform a basic task that he is specifically paid to do. There is no hypothetical here. He *should* have caught the pass. It is what he is paid to do. This is contrasted with you imagining various what-ifs about what could have happened if Allen didn't recover a fumble that he did recover. This is not analyzing reality, it's just imagining scenarios to artificially increase blame on Allen. You're trying to punish Allen for something bad that didn’t happen. Whereas I am discussing something that *did* happen (Kincaid dropping the ball). Long story short (breaking through all the noise) - you just want to continue with anti-Allen rhetoric. That's all it boils down to.

I think its because of where you parking. Its taken me 1.5 hours to get into the lot and 2+ hours to get out. Far more congested without Lot 2.

lol no. Saying a football player should do what he is paid to do. Example: Catch the ball ... Is drastically and vastly different than stating that *if Allen had not recovered a fumble then bad things would have happened and therefore he should be blamed more*. I am not offended. I am flabbergasted - but not offended. Yeah I talked about those games in the part of the post that you cut out.

So now we moving on to alternate universes? We are talking about plays that actually happened, and didn't hurt us, but could have if something else might have happened, even though what happened was good? "Well gee whiz, you see, if the Eagles bus got hit by a meteor on the way to the stadium, then the Chiefs would have won this years super bowl derp" This has now reached epic levels of ridiculousness. You're talking about him going for the jugular - throwing to Shakir in the endzone for the TD - rather than hitting Diggs on the crosser. Let's be clear. Allen 1000% made the right choice. You never, ever, ever, ever, ever turn down a TD for a short crosser with the game on the line and the chances of you seeing the ball again basically nill. Why? It's simple: Lets say Allen hits Diggs on that crosser and we get the first down and those 10 yards or so. Great. Now here is the kicker. We have ZERO clue what would happened next. Maybe we bleed all 3 minutes off the clock and score a TD!I Or maybe we have a bad snap, leading to a fumble and the Chiefs getting the ball. Or maybe Allen could have spun out of a tackle and torn his ACL in 3 places (it was raining after all). Or maybe we could have had back-to-back penalties resulting in 1st and 30 and out of field goal range Every possibility is available under the scenario where he takes the short crosser. So the options become: Option A: Take the 7 points Option B: Take a first down and *maybe* 7 points later This is simple math. You take the probability with the highest % of scoring the TD every time. There is not an NFL coach on this planet who is going to tell his QB to look past the open receiver in the endzone because there is an open crosser. NONE. ZIP. NADA. They will all tell you to GO FOR THE ENDZONE! Allen 100% made the right decision to throw the dagger to Shakir in the endzone. This is not even debatable. And if Dawkins had not got his lunch served to him, this wouldn't even be a discussion. But he did.

Edit: forgot about the Houston game... In the 3rd of those 5 OT games... Gabe Davis, after being on the team for four frigging years, still couldn't run the right routes and took pylon on an option route instead of taking inside leverage which would have been a TD (or interference). I'm sure we all remember that one well. I do blame Allen for the Vikings OT. Thats the only one I blame him for. PS, Most clutch QBs (trailing in the last 5 mins since 2000) 1. Joe Burrow 2. Josh Allen 3. Lamar Jackson 4. Tom Brady 5. Patrick Mahomes (link)

Red herring fallacy. Him being MVP and having more value than the team has nothing to do with your anti-Allen rhetoric.

If a magical genie came to you tomorrow and said: I will grant a lifetime of winning the division, making the playoffs, and “contending” for a SB, but it’s guaranteed that you will never see a Bills Super Bowl win ever. Would you take that deal?

Right so let’s ignore the plays that aren’t Allen’s fault and focus on the ones where it *might* be partially his fault in some way, shape or form (maybe). vs KC 2023 - Dawkins got his lunch served to him and disrupted what would have been a TD throw by Allen that would have had us taking the lead. @ KC 2024 - The 4th and inches BS call by the refs (with the ref who had the clearer view signaling first down yet deferring to the ref with the less clear view). And the Kincaid drop. And Dorsey, err I mean Brady, leaving our most dynamic non-QB player on offense on the sideline. But let’s ignore those. Let’s pretend those didn’t happen because there were other plays that happened too and those plays are the ones that you want to harp on because Allen *might* have some culpability there, because he definitely has no culpability with the other plays. Between Gunnar pretending he knows more than Ryan Fitzpatrick and you wanting to ignore every play by Allen that would have won/taken the lead in a game, the anti-Allen rhetoric has reached a ridiculous point on this forum.

They definitely had a chance in the second Super Bowl too. Kelly just played so incredibly horrible that he doomed us. That and the offense as a whole played uncharacteristically terrible. And it wasn't because Washington was so good that they forced the Bills to play poorly. There were at least 2 TD drops (maybe 3?). Plus Kelly completely abandoning the run game and throwing some terrible INTs. A lot of unforced errors. Allen wins 2 of those Super Bowls.