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If inflation is the culprit, why aren't the other stadiums that are under construction seeing the same overruns? The Titans stadium, announced at around the same time as ours and also currently under construction, has a current cost overrun of about 5%. The A's are also building a new stadium right, in expensive Vegas. Their cost-overruns are only 17% It sure seems like our nearly 40% cost overrun is staggeringly high compared to others.

I haven't read the full thread so perhaps you've already answered this, but is the sheer mass of overruns in this project unusual? I understand overruns are normal, but this seems to be a drastically high number of overrun. If I was Terry i'd be pissed at whoever estimated the original cost.

I don't know but its pretty darn steep. One saving grace is that there are only ~15 rows up there. So you're not falling far. The Ralph has what? 30-some rows in the upper deck?

This is where I am. I thought Joe Brady called a poor game right after it was over, and I still do. Never broke tendency, kept calling plays (or variations) that weren't working, left Cook on the sideline far too much, etc. The defense was not prepared for Mahomes using his legs either. Which was... something.

Falcons fans must feel like crap. Imagine spending the most on offense and you score like 20 points per game.

Yes.

I don't want to derail this thread so this will be my last post on the topic. This is a fact: The NFLPA has zero power to stop a player from taking any contract he wants (above the minimum floor). It would be illegal for the NFLPA to even attempt to force the stoppage of a contract that the two parties agree to. What I think you are attempting to say is: In your mind, the league, NFLPA, players and agents all collude to prevent that from happening. That is also highly illegal and would immediately trigger antitrust litigation. Summary: If a player chose to, he could take a below market deal, and there is absolutely NOTHING the NFLPA could do about it. If they even attempted to stop it, the player could sue the NFLPA in federal cart and win BIG. You can continue to shout that the NFLPA would stop it until the cows come home, but it is simply not true. Or if you don't want to believe me, perhaps listen to the artificial intelligence that has a database far larger than you or I to pull from:

No, they could not. There is nothing they could do. Literally NOTHING (other than begging/pleading with the player). They have zero recourse to stop a player from accepting any contract they want. Zero, zip, nada, none. The league would LOVE that. The league is the owners - they WANT to reset the market lower.

I don’t know why you keep saying this false idea. They have no choice. There is nothing they can do about it. If Allen wanted $1 million, the NFLPA could be pissed about it - but they have ZERO authority to stop it. Maybe in some fantasy land, the union would have that authority. But here, in the United States, unions are bound by law. .

Well of course. That is definitely the point (and the one I was making that you originally responded to). It has nothing to do with the union - they have no choice. The players get what the players want (if you’re a top player).

The NFLPA has no choice. The National Labor Relations Act prevents unions from unduly restricting its members from accepting the contract of their desire. The union has no legal authority to block a player from accepting any deal. If Allen wanted to accept a $1 million dollar contract, there is absolutely nothing the NFLPA could do about it.

This is not a thing. The NFLPA has no power to stop a player from taking less. Brady routinely took significantly less than his worth. Absurdly less, actually. I am 100% fine with the Allen contract. He is worth every penny. But this whole “he gave the team a discount” thing is nonsense. Florio broke it down and dispelled this myth over a week ago. The Prescott comparison others made don’t hold water either. Allen has a $55m/year from signing average. Prescotts is less than that. The misunderstanding where people think Prescott makes more comes from “new money” falsity. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/josh-allen-contract-highlights-the-flaws-of-the-new-money-fiction Allen’s contract is fair and totally fine. But he didn’t take a discount.

See I think Von is a good example of Beane NOT taking risks. Beane could have traded for Von 5 months prior when the Rams got him. But Beane didnt want to give up the 2nd round pick. THAT would have been a risk. What happened? Rams trade for him and they win the Super Bowl. We needed ONE stop against Mahomes that year and I think Von probably provides that (he was still elite at the time). Instead, Beane didnt take the risk of the 2nd round pick and instead took the safer route of signing him in the offseason.

lol. Only 2 Super Bowls in 7 years instead of 5. Howie Roseman drafted Foles too.

Not to mention, that bust QB was pretty good before he tore his ACL twice. He was literally an MVP finalist in 2017. Anyone arguing against Howie Roseman isn't even worth debating. I'm not sure why I even responded. Guy is an all-time GM.

Like any fallible human being, Roseman has had moments of failing. But to claim that his first 7 drafts were "awful", is absolute insanity. His first 3 drafts include: - Fletcher Cox, sure-fire hall-of-famer with four time all-pro - Lane Johnson, potential hall-of-famer, and four time all-pro - Jason Kelce, sure-fire hall-of-famer, and six-time all-pro - Brandon Graham, potential hall-of-famer with over 70 sacks, and an All-Pro selection - Zach Ertz, who according to PFR is the 18th best TE of all time - Jordan Poyer, former all-pro (you may have heard of him) If 4 hall-of-famers and 5 players with all-pro honors in only 3 drafts is "awful" to you... then I cant even imagine what you think of Beane, who has 1 all-pro drafted under his belt in 7 years. If you want to crush him for a couple bad drafts in an otherwise historic over-decade long career, go for it - you can find them. Especially during the Pederson years where there were rumors that Pederson & Roseman werent getting along and no-one knew who was actually making the draft picks. Roseman is an absolute STUD.

Question for all: If Howie Roseman was our GM, would McDermott have a Super Bowl by now? My answer: Absolutely. How you answer that question may help you realize how much of the blame you put on GM and how much you put on the coach. Then again, Howie Roseman is a savant. He has 2 Super Bowls in the past 5 years with 2 different headaches and 2 different QB's, one of which was a backup.

A player didnt know he took illegal steroids? Color me unconvinced.

it’s kinda the GM’s job to know these things before they happen. Its part of the reason they’re paid a lot of money.

That’s fair. I think that’s exactly what they’re going for (based on the coaching hires this offseason).

People have short memories. Dane was not good.

Guess I have to hold your hand and walk you through this. The study *you* linked looked at players already cut or players who were up for a second contract. It was looking at players who didn’t receive a second contract. In other words, you can’t count players a GM drafts last year, because the “hit” rate would be 100%. No-one let’s go of a player one year after drafting them. The 40% number listed was all non-Allen draft picks. Not “hit” percentage. By your studies metric, Beane’s non-Allen hit” rate is 33%. Which, let me do some quick calculating here, would mean that Beane is below average. math

According to your article 43% is average. So he would be below average...

2022 NFL Draft: Pick 21: 1st Team All-Pro CB Trent McDuffie Pick 22: Respectable LB - Quay Walker Pick 23: Kaiir Elam Pick 24: 2nd Team All-Pro OT Tyler Smith Pick 25: Two-time Pro-Bowl C Tyler Lindenbaum It takes skill to screw this up so badly.

I don’t know how anyone could disagree with this. Without Allen, 40% of Beane’s first round picks aren’t even on the team anymore.