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If Gabe broke off his route to just run to open space, that’s even worse. I’m almost positive it was an option though. You can actually see Davis reading the leverage before making his turn. And I highly doubt Allen would simply throw it to a random area if he knew where Gabe was going.

I’m honestly not sure Kincaid gets that first down at the point of time Allen was looking at him, and I think that’s why Allen didn’t throw to him. Allen looked right at him and saw the defender closing in on him and probably felt it would be a bang-bang play at the LOS. This is when Allen was looking at Kincaid: Maybe he does get it, but we are really bad at those boundary passes and catches, and if Kincaid does get blown up, Miami has the ball near the 40. Im guessing that Allen is looking at the defender closing in and decides it’s a risk to release it. AFTER Allen moves past his Kincaid read and onto other progressions, is when the Miami defender gets caught up in the pick (momentarily). That’s when Collinsworth focused on. But he didn’t mention the fact that Allen was onto his other reads when the defender was more out of the picture.

Except the last time (to seal the game). I wouldn’t have called that there (and said so in the game thread). We typically get at least a half yard on the shove, but that was a long full yard, and we don’t always get that.

100%. And it worked out better for us (than an incompletion). Miami got the ball at the 20 instead of the 37. I don’t mind criticizing mistakes but you have to consider the context. Many posters - even typically sensible ones - were acting as if Allen was throwing willynilly into double coverage. That just wasn’t the case. We had one INT where there was a miscommunication between he and Gabe and one INT that was essentially an arm punt. Despite those, Allen went 30/38 with 426 yard and 2 TD’s.

These aren’t over the top? Bench him? Mental midget? He sucks? He’s not an asset? There are dozens more examples too from within the past 24 hours.

My goodness. That is absolutely insane.

It doesn’t happen often with the other receivers, so the choices are: A) Gabe is wrong more often than the other receivers. B) Josh is wrong with everyone but the other receivers know their QB and what he will see (chemistry). C) Josh saves most the times to be wrong for when he targets Gabe (highly doubtful). Regardless of the reasoning, Gabe is target on nearly 40% of the interceptions but with only 15% of the targets. Which means the other 85% of targets account for far less turnovers per target. So I disagree with your point that losing Gabe wouldn’t help. It sure didn’t hurt tonight.

Same here. We can always count on half a yard from our tush push but that long yard we needed on 4th down was asking a lot. I kinda wonder what a boot leg from the tush push formation would look like. That last drive, I wish they put the ball in Allen’s hands every play. If the guy is open, throw it. If not, tell Allen to get a yard or two and get down. As Simon said, far too conservative play-calling.

You’re right. I’m sorry. This will be my last one. I am a bit hyped. Go Bills!

Not just this year, to be honest. Allen threw a higher % of his INT’s to Gabe even last season! Something just isn’t clicking between them.

I too am beginning to become worried by Brady insistence on the game plan. It was clear the run was not working and it was clear Allen was going off after the first quarter.

I'll go after we win the Super Bowl.

Yes. The sooner people stop expecting him to be the Tom Brady style dink and dunker, the more fans will enjoy the Josh Allen ride.

Before Gabe was hurt Allen: 4/8 (50%), 67 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT AFTER Gabe left the game Allen: 26/30 (87%), 360 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT Did you know? Over the past two seasons, a little under 40% of Allen's interceptions occur when targeting Gabe Davis? Yet, Davis is not targeting very much... 15.2% of the targets, and 38% of the INT's. And no, I am not saying that Gabe Davis is the sole reason of blame for our offensive failures. Not at all. But for whatever reason, he and Allen are NOT on the same page, and it doesn't seem to be getting better.

He was bad bad today. Do we have someone better though?

I just watched the 2nd pick again and yeah you’re right on that one. Still, I don’t think 1 deep shot on 4th down in the first quarter is an indication of Allen playing hero ball. I mean, do you realize that Allen was 79% with 426 yards today? He had 8 incompletions all game. 1 bad decision (or even 2), is not hero ball when you look at the context of 79% and 426 yards. He was magic. He always is.

When over HALF of a players INT’s are when targeting one particular reason, do you think there may be a correlation? Thats not just there. It’s last year too. Gabe and Allen are simply not on the same page far too often. Our offense looked better when he left the game.

Well said. I was getting heated reading the comments in the gameday chat and had to step away from the browser for a bit. Know where we would be next week without Josh Allen? Here:

I don’t think he even was. - First INT to Gabe was a clear as day option route for the WR and Gabe/Josh were not on. the same page. Maybe Josh should have turfed it or threw it away, but that’s not hero ball. - The second INT is a TD if Gabe doesn’t trip. Everyone points to Knox being open on the other side but I give that 50% odds we don’t convert it. Josh against the Jets was hero ball. I didn’t feel hero ball from Josh tonight.

Absolutely. Total props to the defense. Especially in the second half where they gave up zero points. And without Rasul Douglas!

Yes!!!! And one of the announcers said it during the game. I can’t remember if it was Tirico or Collinsworth, but they said that Alan seems to shine in big moments - when the game or season is on the line. And he does. I’ll take that ALL DAY over a couple first quarter interceptions. If Cook didn’t drop that TD dime by Allen before the first half ended, we win by two scores.

He may screw up sometimes, but he puts his heart and soul into every game and when the game is on the line, he shines! That 3rd and 13 he got to extend the drive …. NO other quarterback is getting that. I will forever ride or die with Josh Allen. I don’t want ANYONE else. I wouldn’t trade him for Mahomes, Burrow, Rodgers and all of the gold in the world.

LETS GOOO!

We must REALLY not trust Bass.

As I said, our tush push doesn’t get a full yard. Don’t like that call.