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    James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

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    9 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

    It hasn’t really continued though. He made a post, ended up deleting it, then went on a podcast and talked about it. I think there are far too many people who are stuck in the old ways, pre-social media days. This is a negotiation strategy. Many players have used it in the last couple of years. 
     

    I bet most in here couldn’t even tell you what Cook’s voice sounds like. Guy has been quiet since he’s been here. Took the game day inactives his rookie year like a pro. Has played hard the last 2 years. Has even come out and said he doesn’t want to be a cancer (but way too many people are choosing to ignore that part of what he said, hmmmmm interesting). Nothing over his first 3 seasons has shown anything of a diva attitude. Where was all this anger during the season when he was scoring all those touchdowns? Oh that’s right, there wasn’t any. Now he’s enemy #1? Seems pretty weak to me 

     

    Actions speak louder than words. I'm sure no one wants to be a cancer, but by putting in the public domain he's increased the risk of being called one.

     

    Why would fans be angry at Cook for scoring touchdowns? That's false equivalence.

     

    I think everyone can understand him wanting more money, and the majority agree he deserves an increase on his current contract. The way he's made it public is the issue.

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    Justin Tucker — Deahaun Watson 2.0?

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    On 2/1/2025 at 6:07 PM, K D said:

    Very interesting how none of this came out when Tucker was good. Now that he's not very good and the Ravens want out of his contract there's all of these victims all of a sudden. How about when he was the best kicker in the league or when the Deshaun Watson stuff came out? Crickets

     

    Does make you wonder, doesn't it? Why now?

    James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

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    1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said:

     

    What's crazy money?  

     

    He deserves and is worth a considerable amount more than Dawson Knox.

     

    Yup.  That same dude who won a Super Bowl and enjoyed a lengthy Hall of Fame career away from Buffalo.    

     

    There's no point throwing good money after bad. Knox's contract is excessive and it shouldn't be used as a base for others.

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    Shakir, Benford, Cook and Bernard: Who Gets a Contract Extension?

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    I want Shakir to sign long term. Chemistry is key and he seems to have it more than anyone else with Josh. That said, he would be too big a luxury at the amount stated. Get him down to around $15m and have him sign.

     

    Cook is the same, sign him up but not at that amount. $10m-$12m is about right.

     

    Benford is elite but made of glass. Agree with those who said let him play out 2025 and judge his concussion status.

     

    I think Bernard is the only one on the list who works when it comes to both salary level and health.

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    James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

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    8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    I get why agents have their clients use social media to negotiate but it just seems like a terrible idea.

     

    It gets headlines. Puts some media pressure on the team. Typically all the players could do is hold out but that’s too late. I just feel like it turns fans against the players.
     

    Fans always react poorly to this stuff. I don’t understand why. There is never anything personal about it. 


    Like I said before, fans are quick to cut a player underperforming but if a player wants to get more money and uses the only power they have, we get mad.

     

    I suppose it's only a power if are on the player's side. If it leaks that the Bills are offering Josh an extension below market value, the fans will round on Beane. In this case, with the amount requested seeming slightly excessive after one strong year - particularly considering how large RB contracts have hurt the Colts and the Niners due to injury - then instead it gives the Bills more flexibility in the fans eyes. If Beane trades then the majority, albeit, if understand even if they don't like it.

     

    If the Bills look to move on, which teams will offer Cook $15m? I'm sure there will be some out there. Think someone mentioned Dallas earlier in the thread.

    James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

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    28 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Okay, so you don’t like the way that he handled it. Does that now mean that we shouldn’t pay him? Is he less important to the team? Do you think that this is the first that the team is hearing about it? Do you think that players look at him less favorably for this (spoiler: they don’t)? The Bills certainly knew this before he balled out against KC. The only things that’s changed is that fans now know. MANY on this board, have gone from “he’s been great” to “get him out of here” because he scrubbed his social media!! Lol, everyone knew he’d ask for money. All that’s changed is that we now know. The reactions from many on here are asinine. @BigDingus hit the nail on the head.

     

    It depends on the impact on the locker room. You assume it will have none; on purely the salary situation you may be right. But he's now shown himself to be someone who is happy to parade agitation or upset with the team on social media. Remember what happened with a certain WR when he showed a willingness to do that, and the impact it especially had on Josh?

     

    I'm not saying Cook will be like that when it comes to play calls, player relationships etc. But it seems more likely than it did before and IMO should be something else taken into consideration.

    James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

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    45 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Perfectly said!! That’s the point that I’ve been attempting to make WAY less articulately than you just did. This isn’t about “should the Bills give Cook $15M?” This is about how insane it is that fans are willing to dump one of the best 5 players on this team because he scrubbed his social media and said he wants a couple million more than fans wanted him to be paid. (Why fans CARE what a guy makes is beyond me if the cap implications are minimal). Great post!!!

     

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    Lol, that’s the entire point!! How much would you have paid him per year if you never heard what he wanted? If the answer is $10M+ which it obviously is from pretty much everyone, what’s so different other than you now know (which is extremely common btw)? Is he less important to the team now? He was great down the stretch and isn’t easily replaced. His teammates love him. People NOW want to replace him because he scrubbed his social media? 🤣🤣 That’s so ridiculous. 🤣🤣

     

    It's his ACTIONS which are causing the problem for me. Not however much he's asking for. I get the argument what's the difference between $12m and $15m but that's down to Beane and the bean(e) counters. My issue is the way Cook's handling this in the public domain.

     

    ETA - As said, there are others who are deserving extensions on the roster. Up til now, at least, they're all staying quiet.

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    James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

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    3 hours ago, BigDingus said:

    I swear, any time a player wants to get paid it exposes who the true colors of so many fans.

     

    "We support our guys! Unless they advocate for themselves... then screw that, trade them away!"

     

    He's not even trying to leave or suggesting he wants to play elsewhere. He's not starting drama with our QB & the players love him. 

     

    Josh has few weapons as it is, and Cook was the best of the bunch. "RBs are a dime a dozen!" - Right, that's why we tried & tried & tried some more, yet never could get consistent production from the run game. We wasted draft picks on Singletary & Moss, had years where we rotated 3 guys, had aging veterans, etc. but never had someone as reliable or productive as Cook (both in the run game & pass game).

     

    And people are saying this AFTER they saw what happened in KC? After we all saw how dumb it was not to give Cook the ball in that last drive?  After we all saw how successful he was, how he was our best weapon, and how KC didn't have an answer for him?

     

    He says he wants $15 million a year, which is a lot for a RB but not nearly that much in the grand scheme of things. Top WRs cost double that, and Cook has been more important to this team's success than any of our WRs. We're paying Groot $13.5 million in 2025, but he doesn't have the impact Cook has had.

     

    And just because he's putting out there $15 million, doesn't mean that's the only number he'd accept. It's a starting point, and they have a number of options including signing bonuses or stat bonuses that he could take. A lot of players just want teams to show them they're valued & to not low-ball them, so you never know what he'd really take.

     

    We have Ed Oliver taking up $20 million a next year, Curtis Samuel $9 million, a rotational DE in Epenesa makes $7.5 million, our 2nd TE Dawson Knox makes $14.5 million. $12 - $15 million is not too much for a player that's been as good as Cook, the problem is the other places we've been spending so much money.

     

    Cook & the offense carried this team. Those players deserve to be paid. But so much money is invested in this defense that can't do squat in the playoffs. $20+ million a year for Von, $20 million for Ed, $9.5 million for Jones, $16 million for Milano, $13.5 million for Groot... Hell, even the $4+ million for Elam's rookie contract is a waste given what he's done. 

     

    But whether we can afford to keep Cook or not, stop getting all mad when players want to be rewarded for their efforts. RBs get treated like crap compared to other positions, and I've seen so many people suggest "run him till the tires come off & let him walk." That's part of the problem. RBs are a unique position that don't often get rewarded with their first big, post-rookie contract.

     

    Cook is healthy, he's only 25 years old, and he was our best offensive weapon when we used him. Stop getting all mad that he wants to get paid. If you don't want to pay him, there's no problem with that. I just don't like how so many fans have suddenly turned on him & painted him a villain for doing something completely normal.

     

    I'm not annoyed with him wanting to get paid. I'm annoyed with the social media games he's playing. He could keep everything behind closed doors but he's decided to play up instead. Enough of the diva behavior. If he doesn't want people to make judgements on what he's asking for, maybe don't tell us all in the first place.

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    James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

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    2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    He has been great in the biggest games. Could they get someone better? Maybe. Is it more likely that who they’d replace him with would be worse? Definitely. That gamble is absolutely not worth it when we are talking about a few million bucks a year (not even a few million dollars difference in cap hit).
     

     

    Yet the Bills are still without a ring and, for the biggest offensive down of the year, he was off the field because he cannot pass block. I don't want him to go but every player has a price. For what Cook brings to the team, he should be below Barkley. And if they can't reach that agreement then it's a case of moving on, building up the defense and seeing who is available in the run game.

    James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

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    Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

    This is what I’m struggling with. Why does it get much more difficult?  Using this framework I don’t see this as a problem:

     

     

    Will he be a little overpaid? Probably. Why should I care is what I can’t wrap my head around. I care about the cap situation not actual dollars. That’s a Terry issue. Why does anyone care if he makes $12M vs. $15M? Those cap challenges will be years from now. When the window is open throw caution to the wind and be thankful that you’ve had an owner willing to pay up. 

     

    But is he worth it? Will the Bills be better off using that money on other areas of the team. Even if the Bills and Cook come to an agreement at, say, $12m, that $3m could help get someone else over the line.

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