and while i am on the beer thread....was at my local bottle shop on friday and one of the regulars brought in a couple beers to share with us. He had a Brewdog tactical nuclear penguin, this was a beer brewed back in 2009 in response to a german brewer that had just produced the strongest beer in the world at 32%(?) abv. Brewdog made a beer and decided to start freeze distilling it eventually getting it to 33%(?) abv. Being that it had aged 8 years, it really mellowed and was outstanding and you would never have guessed it was as high alcohol as it was...it was soooooooooooooooooo smooth. had nice hints of raisins, plums, tobacco.....dang