Bob in STL

So are you saying we shouldn't listen to "guys on the Jets board"?

So are you saying we shouldn't listen to "guys on the Jets board"?

I don't see it in round 3 but if you go by the "best player available" theory then you could be right. I do expect we will at least pick up a few safety's to round out the roster. We could draft one in the late rounds, and then look at undrafted rookie FA's, and also look at low priced veteran free agents. You are correct, we need to bring some competition into camp.

So who will play linebacker for us? Ellison - Crowel - Stamer/Wire? Your draft neglects our biggest area of need. I would not be surprised to see the Bills take 2 linebackers on day one.

I give TD no credit. The Parish pick was complete arrogance, drafting a 3rd WR/ kick returner when we were very weak on both lines. I don't think there was a weaker OL than the one TD left us.

Wade = C- Yes, he made the playoffs. He did not take care of all facets of the team, special teams was a disaster on his watch. Had to deal with Ralph's interferenece but still, he is not a great motivator or planner for a HC. Gregggggoh - F. He failed in his debut. He had very little talent his first season and got a lot of of the team. In waas downhill from there. His arrogance and his inexperience got the best of him. In retrospect, he was a very bad hire. Other coaches interviewed went on to be successful. Meathead - F. He had talent and could not consistently produce. His inexperience was a big factor in his demise and he did not win over the veterans. It sure seemed like he was never in control. TD decided who his OL and his QB would be; Meathead was a basically a figurehead. Dick J. - B so far, but still more of an incomplete.

10 - ILB 9 - RB 8 - OLB, CB 7 - TE, WR 6 - FB, DT 5 - OG/C 4 - QB 3 - OT, S This is how I rank the needs, which is not how I would necessarily draft. You have to let the talent on the board direct the draft.

Your comments on Fairchild are right on. He never agreed with the pass happy Martz and pleaded to feature S. Jackson first. Fairchild will tweak based on the talent and besides, how can a runner like AP not be a good fit?

Please stop that. You turn around a program drafting good players, teaching and coaching them, and by establishing a winning attitude ---- that means winning games on the field. Not by losing. The Bills need to learn how to win and that time is now. The idea of losing to get "one more good draft" is crazy. Good players are available in all rounds of the draft. New England has been winning for many years and they have no problem adding talent to their team via the draft.

I know it is becoming a habit and it does put them at an advantage but don't you think even they are getting sick of it? I am willing to bet that if they had the choice they would pick a different opponent to play after their bye-week.

I disagree, and please check your math on that 0-8, 3-6 and 5-3 thing.

Not sure anything is wrong with your scenario. I just think that Willis is the best LB in the draft and we should use that pick on him if he is there at 12.

Good post. We need to come out of the draft with a starting RB and a starting LB. We also need a strong prospect for CB. My stratgey would be to hold off on Turner until our pick comes up. then lets see who iss there and who wants to deal. If Peterson is there (assume Lynch is to) then Turners value goes down. I would take Peterson and then still have 3 picks to address LB and CB needs. Maybe we can trade up to get a player that can start at LB? I prefer that we pick Willis at 12 and then trade for Turner without giving up a first rounder. That would give us two starters as for sure.

Agree that the SD new article is wrong. Turner's value will go down with each round of the draft. I will be upset to see us make a deal for Turner that involves a first rounder, even a swap of first rounders. Based on the moves made so far this off season I think that Turner is worth the 3rd and 7th that we got for Willis, and that would be my going in offer. No way should Turner pull in a better deal than we got for McGahee. Thats said, I would love to have Turner and I think he will be a more productive and better Buffalo Bill than McGahee.

I think your logic is a bit flawed. Your first scenario said Willis is off the board. Now you say he is on? In Willis is there we take him, case closed. Let Lynch fall to GB or whereever. When we get to round 2 we talk to AJ Smith about Turner. If Turner is already a Titan, so be it. We can draft a RB with one of our 3 remaining day 1 picks. If Willis is gone we take Lynch at 12 unless we have a deal brewing for Turner in rounds 2 or 3. If Willis is gone and we have a deal for Turner in the works that does not involve our number #1, then I could see trading down and still having a shot at Hall, Revis, Poz, Meachem, etc.

Marv should sit tight and so should the Titans. AJ is being rediculous in wanting a first rounder for this guy. Remember, if AJ does not get a trade after the first round then he will start to sweat. Realistically, all Turner is really worth is a day one pick ... if the Bills and Titans hold out they can make that pick a second or third rounder. If AJ does not play ball he gets to keep Turner, have great depth for one more year, and then lose him for nothing next season. Who flinches first ... the Bills or the Titans? Neither team should consider a trade until their on the clock, or close to it. I would love to see what happens if Peterson is on the board when pick #12 comes up. Marv would be in the drivers seat. The visit by Turner was all pre-negotiation to see what it wuld take to sign him long term.

No. Trey Wingo was a local TV sportscaster here in St. Louis and he was the number 2 man at his network. He was #2 to a guy who opted out of sports totally and is now a news guy. Trey was just horrible. In a town serious about sports he was known more as a clown than as a serious sports guy. I has shocked to see him land a job at ESPN. He hasn't gotten any better.

Peters, Dockery and Fowler are starters. I think it is safe to say that no positions are set on the right side yet. If Pennington has a monster preseason then it may force Walker to get a look at guard. Butler will also get a look at guard. Preston needs to impress to start, he has a lot of competiton and it is time for him to grow up and come of age. Merz, Whittle and a rookie to be drafted will fight for the last spots. I really like that Marv added 3 veterans here, the competition will enable us to see what we have in holdovers Pennington, Preston, Butler and Merz.

I think your right but Modrak, Overdorf, and Guy were here under Donahoe and the "experts" in the media did not have a problem with out front office. The difference now is in the contrast on how Marv runs the organization versus how Donahoe did. TD had a tendency to play to the media and make the big exciting moves. Under the surface, TD did not have a plan. If he did he did not stick to it, and he has extremely autocratic in executing it. I believe that Levy has a three year plan to build a Super Bowl contender. I think his moves this year have been excellent. It is easy to look at all the big names that have left this off season (Clements, Fletcher, Spikes, McGahee) and then think that our talent level has dropped significantly. After draft and once the season starts I believe the only player we will really miss is Clements. We are going to replenish the LB and RB position. We have strengthened both lines with off season moves. We are bringing in good character players and I think there is a plan to build a core of players that peak at the same time. I just seems to me that Ralph Wilson has become a easy target for the media and any chance to take a shot at him or his team is considered fair game.

Another story with a slant. Modrak has been handling the draft and the scouting of college players. This is the job he wanted all along. He left a GM job in Philly for this job and and never wanted the GM job Buffalo. He does not maintain an office in Buffalo, so the "odd man out" comments makes no sense. Overdorf is known as a solid cap guy and was in fact retained by Donohoe, and then again by Levy, for that job. All of a sudden he is paying too much money for average players? I believe that John Guy was hired by Donohoe ... so Donahoe brought in a person that doesn't understand pro talent? All of these guys have distinctly different assignments reporting to the GM, Marv Levy. So what's the problem? I question the direction of the writers story, not the direction of the team. To say that the Bills threw away money on free agent offenaive lineman before the team has played even one down is just irresponsible journalism.

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Just to set the record straight. There is no such thing as a Fairchild/Martz offense. Fairchild was a "run first" guy when he coached in college and that is what he wanted to do his entire time in St. Louis. Martz, as we all know, is a pass happy coach. He passes to set up the run. Thank goodness for him he had Marshall Faulk ... a back who could run and catch. Martz thought very highly of Fairchild, which is why he hired him to be the OC in STL. Fairchild and Martz always seemed to struggled on the offensive philosophy. Martz took playcalling duties away from Fairchild at one point, then, when Martz got sick, Fairchild took over the play calling again and the Rams started to feature Jackson and they started to win. Believe me, there is a mutual respect between the two coaches but they do not share the same fundamental philosophy on offense.

What i think your saying is this. If last years draft continues to develop, AND this years draft is just as good, AND Losman continues to develop into a playmaker .... we will have money to extend contracts and we will be good in 2008 and very, very good beyond that. Marv can get it done. Follow the plan and stay the course!

I consider you the draft guru on this board; all others need not apply. You provide lots of good information and you come up with some interesting ideas. Like my chess playing, I can only think 2 moves deep with any competence. Even then ... I go with Willis and then flip a coin between Wade and Leonard. Cheers!