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I saw this yesterday. Couldn't help but shed some tears. That is some much watch tv as a Bills fan, football fan, family man, and everyone fighting cancer.

Perhaps he's better but your description of Mims certainly is applicable to Davis. It was not about whose better rather than comparing their short comings. Just food for thought. How good do you think Davis would be if he was in Mims situation in NY? Vice versa? I'd argue Allen has greatly enhanced Gabe's game while the Jets situation did the opposite for Mims.

I think the Bengals are a better team than the Bills. Their wide receivers are probably the best in the league, they have an improved oline, Anarumo mixes up the defenses and schemes well, and Burrow is every bit as good as Allen. Physical talent wise Allen is by far more gifted. However, Burrow has that it factor and knows how to win. The Bengals look to be a poor match up for the Bills. Not sure how people can rank Buffalo better than Cinci. Cinci waxed the Bills for 5 quarters last year. Until the Bills show me something Cinci gets the edge.

Gunner are you referring to Gabe Davis?

Bills could have picked him up for nothing. It's not like the WR core is rock solid. Maybe the Jets, wouldn't trade him within the division? Mims might have produced with Allen throwing him the ball. In NY, he never had a solid QB behind him.

I think 13 wins is way too optimistic. Tough division games and those brutal away games vs the top teams in the league. I think they win 10 games and make the playoffs. I don't see a reasonable path to 13 wins. However, McD knows how to win regular season games. Could be another great regular season only to lose early on in the playoffs. Nevertheless, it will be seen as a successful season. I'd be happy with that. How about you?

The only reason I didn't pick Jones is mostly because of DabolI. Not so much Jones. Daboll can scheme, game plan, and get the most out of Jones.

I voted for Carr. He's getting older and has a lot of wear and tear on his body. Not mobile at all. He's just average at best.

It's a QB driven league. Even back ups are making huge money. He did get RB Harris on the cheap though. Otherwise, you are spot on here.

Good input here. 👍

Maybe they were thinking about the Zeke deal in Dallas. His legs are special though. Daboll elevated his game for sure. I will say I almost fell out of my chair when I heard of the Jones deal. Giants were in a tough position by Damn Jones is average at best. Younger folks I hope your son can be a NFL QB. No need to play the lottery.

Diggs too!

I can't argue the facts they are what they are. He has been largely a no show come playoff time. You aren't wrong here. It kind of goes back to what are your expectations of players and the team. More specifically, the Bills team has been outstanding in the regular season, winning their division, making multiple playoff appearances, and advancing in the playoffs. Many many fans are thrilled with these results. View this as success. Advancing further is just more entertainment. Fast forward that same theme to Diggs. It's pretty applicable. Matter of how you see things.

I here you. I'm a big Diggs fan for many reasons. I love the way he competes and certainly has been really good for the Bills. Yes, he hasn't produced cone playoff time. I think that's more on the Bills game planning, schemes, lack of WR weapons, and teams flat out doubling and taking Diggs out of the game. Sure blame some has to fall ob Diggs without a doubt. I'm just wondering what changes this year; so Diggs can be a weapon come playoff time? Another no show is unacceptable. That's a little harsh though. The guy falls somewhere in the vicinity of the top 10 WRs in the league.

I do like Oliver. He is solid but lacks consistency. His contract does seem reasonable and The Bills clearly had little to nothing behind him. So the Oliver signing does make sense. I do like the Floyd and Ford pick ups along with moving on from Edmunds. However, I'm ultra focused on the offensive side of the ball. Perhaps to a flaw. Dhop certainly fits into my mindset of loading up on the offense.

The whole Diggs situation is one I'm interested to see how it plays out. I'm not convinced that everything is squashed. I'm expecting some Diggs drama this season. Diggs certainly has a difficult time controlling his emotions. Hoping we don't see a Minn repeat but it wouldn't surprise me either. We've some red flags already. The coffee is brewing sort of speak. Super good insight here Gunner! Thanks.

The Bills WR core after Diggs is a huge drop off. At this point, it's pretty clear what Davis and several of the other WRs are. The WR core likely doesn't instill much fear for opposing defenses. Allen will once again be the focal point. Likely he will be asked to do too much. The Bills definelty need another WR to step it up. Come playoff time you game bank on it the opposing team will double Diggs and take him out of the game. Some other WR will have to step up. Davis is no longer a secret and unlikely to be that guy. I'm sure others disagree here. Kincaid shows promise and potential but who knows. Same with others. As for me, the team had to make some difficult decisions. Cap restrictions certainly limited the teams moves. Beane was honest about that. None of the offensive moves in and of itself seem to be game changers except Kincaid. If Kincaid is that dynamic and the coaching staff can utilize his skill set then that's another story. Hopefully, he becomes a dynamic weapon for the Bills. If so, an already dangerous Allen becomes even better. Another huge key is the oline. The oline has to be much better in order for the Bills to compete with likes of KC and Cinci. Beane has absolutely tried to upgrade this area. Hopefully, it pans out. Thanks. Sure feels like the Bills could have gotten a deal done.

The Bills made some difficult decisions. Signing Oliver certainly looked to seal the deal that Hopkins wasn't coming to Buffalo. Maybe I'm wrong here because I'm not good with the cap and money restrictions. If my premise is somewhat plausible, i'd rather have Dhop and traded Oliver for a mid draft pick or two. I think Dhop impacts the team more and gives the Bills a better chance to win. With Beane really concentrating on the offense, I'm surprised he couldn't or didn't get it done. I think opposing teams would have hated to see Dhop go to Buffalo. I doubt Oliver is putting any fear in opposing offenses. I doubt they are game planning for him. Dhop on the other hand certainly creates many issues for opposing defenses. I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as I'm stating. Lots of variables in play. I can't help but to feel a little let down in the decision not to create some cap room for DHop.

Lol. Thanks for the love Mr. Chandler. I can always count on it like clockwork. 👍 That seems to be the conscious amoung many here. Maybe I'm more likely wrong here than right.

That's a fair statement in some regards. Other factors that are unknown were probably in play. Maybe the city of Buffalo wasn't his proffered region, maybe he wanted to be the true number one WR, maybe he felt like he wouldn't be targeted to his liking, or maybe the Bills offer wasn't close to the Titans offer. Maybe he would have taken a little less under the right circumstances. Nice post Thurman!

This isn't entirely accurate Thurman. His base salary isn't 15 million. The 15 million is incentive based. My understanding is his annual salary is about 12 mil each year. So the money gap could be more than you are implying with the extra year the Bills could have offered. Yes, I will concede it still might not have been enough. Additionally, many players will take less to get the opportunity to win it all. All depends on the player and their priorities. In short, the Bills had options and had selling points. I believe a deal could have gotten done that would have been benifical for both sides. Feel free to disagree.

Based on he gets a three year contract vs a two year contract. Also, he gets to have Allen as his QB and contend for a SB. These are pretty enticing positives for an aging veteran WR. The Bills could have built in incentives as well.

I think you are in the ballpark for Davis. I had a 10-12 million dollar pay range. I could see a team offering more if he has a nice year. So here's the question. Assuming the Bills did their due diligence, would you rather have DHop for a similar contract than Davis might get next year? I'm pretty sure Dhop woukd have jumped on a 3 year 33 million dollar offer. To me it's a no brainer. DHop is the clear winner hands down. He gives the Bills the absolute best chance to advance further. The only real advantage is getting Davis on the cheap for this year. That does have some merit.

I hope you are wrong on Davis. Beane also said glowing things about Edmunds and failed to give him a new contract. So it's really hard to gauge what happens to the future of Davis as a Bill. I guess a lot will depend in his play this year abd terms of the contract. Davis is a feel good story. A steal in the later rounds of the draft. Who doesn't cheer for the underdog? Seems be be a nice guy and an extremely hard worker. That fits the mold of a Buffalo Bill. I can get on board with the Davis love. However, Davis has some pretty big limitations. I see him as a mediocre to average WR2. Personally, I believe the Bills need to upgrade this position. It's exactly why I wanted Dhop. Guess we will see how things play out. I think Davis will be pretty expensive to keep. WR 2s are getting big money. I believe some team will over pay him similar to the Edmunds situation.

I remember Beane saying that. My question is would acquiring Dhop at a similar cost really be considered a tear down? How disruptive would it be? Risk vs reward I'm sure was considered. What hasn't really been addressed in all of this is the Bills current number 2 WR. Gabe Davis is certainly going to get paid. WR 2s are getting big paychecks. Frankly, he is younger but not even close to the league of Dhop. Are the Bills planning to pay him or let him walk for nothing? I would havd been fine with dumping Davis for some decent value and replacing him with Dhop.