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Probably so. Not my money but I think the price he got was fair. I'm sure Beane could have paid maybe a little less and offered him a three year contract. Got creative with incentives and such. Who knows maybe he did and it just wasn't meant to be. As a Bills fan, I feel slightly disappointed the Bills couldn't contend with what Tenn paid him. Bringing Dhop to Buffalo seemingly would have been a great acquisition. Obviously, Beane didn't pull the trigger which is somewhat disappointing. He has really emphasized upgrading the offense and Dhop certainly would have done that. I for one am not sold on the WRs core the Bills currently have.

I wouldn't hate getting Evans. However, you just don't know how the Evan's situation will evolve. Dhop was there for the taking at a reasonable price. Have to think he would have taken a little bit less to play with Buffalo. Seems like a missed opportunity.

Really fantastic analysis. I concur 100%. When I heard the contract details I was perplexed at why Beane didn't get it done. Dhop should have been a priority pick up imho. Hard to understand why Beane didn't get it done.

Agree 100% Bill. Yet, so many fans refuse to see the obvious. Instead lots of fans want to cling to the Bills were flat and or exhausted from previous season's unfortunate events. That's just a tiny portion of the truth. Nice post Bill!

I agree but I also think one can make reasonable inferences based on what someone says. For example, if someone says I was really sweating while I slowly walked outside today. I think one could infer that the weather was hot outside. Similarly, when one talks about a players/team being flat and then uses an example of a players wanting it so bad they just couldn't perform well. I think one can reasonable infer that the two are interrelated or intertwined.

It's all good Gunner. We don't see things in the same light. That's not necessarily a bad thing. I'll always put much credence into what you say. My eyes see a very good Bills team that has squandered winninable playoff games under the McD regime. Texans, Jags, and KC come to mind off the top of my head. Thus, you have a 4-5 playoff record and not even a close sniff at a SB appearence. Imho, they squandered precious opportunities. Has the team progressed in their playoff appearances? With KC and Cinci likely going nowhere anytime soon the road to the SB looks difficult, maybe unlikely. No worries because many fans are more than satisfied with great regular season records and a playoff appearences. Bills have certainly done that well. Just think how much better that is than the past. Football as a Bills fan as been thoroughly more enjoyable. A SB appearence or win would only be gravy on top. Silly me for critizing a team, coaching staff, and organization who by all measures has enough talent to represent the AFC. Silly me for not accepting excuses as to why the Bills haven't made it to a SB? The beauty of it all is there's always next year. Next year brings new hope, enthusiasm, and optimism. Don't let me rain on anyone's parade. I hear the lyrics "Don't worry be happy" playing in the background. Great song! Signed by a older Bills fan that's been waiting 50 plus years for a Bills player to hoist a Lombardi Trophy.

I agree. What I find ironic is that we Bill fans are very quick to dismiss the last year's playoff loss to injuries. No doubt it played a role. However, Tua and Bridgewater were hurt as well. Miami was playing a nobody inferior 3rd string QB. Yet, we Bills fans are fast to dismiss the injury excuse for Miami and it's fans. Crazy how minds work.

Come on Gunner. You watched that Monday night game. There's no way you could objectively think the Bills were going to win that game. Sure it's a remote chance they do and we will never know. However, the Bengals were manhandling the vaunted Bills defense. The Bills offense had a nice scoring drive and then stalled out. The Bengals were physically dominating the Bills and doing what they wanted at will on offense. They were soon to be going up two scores before Damar got hurt. Almost everyone I've talked to Bills fans and otherwise have concurred the Bills were well on their way to a convincing loss. It's hard not to think otherwise if you are being objective.

Come on Gunner. You are seemingly changing the goal post here. First it was a " no show" and now it's they wanted it so bad that they were flat. Perhaps, they are synonymous. There's no way on this earth I can buy that type of rational. That's pretty bizarre for world class athletes getting paid millions to underperform because they couldn't handle the situation or pressure. Or whatever reason you want to attach to it. No way no how was that game too big for any Bills player. No way no how did they play terrible due to wanting it so badly. You don't come out flat playing a huge playoff game at home. You don't come out flat when you have a franchise QB. You don't come out flat with all your playoff experience. You don't get out coached and out schemed by a country mile when you are supposed to be a good coach. All a bunch of excuses created by coaches players, and fans. The Bills players and coaches just weren't good enough on every level. A total disaster before arguably the best fan base in the NFL. No problem here. There's always next year and next year and next year. The only question up for debate will be what's the new flavor excuse going to be.

No problem. I am fine with your stance. Sometimes it's ok to disagree.

I agree. I've watched the game several times. There isn't really a path where I see the Bills losing this because they were unfocused, flat, or a no show. On offense, Diggs and Allen were laser focused. The two best offensive players were absolutely ready for the moment. No doubt in my mind. What we saw was a Cinci D with a Cinci D coordinator eat up the Bills predictable offense. They exploited every nook and cranny if the Bills offensive weaknesses. Most notably the oline and weak WRs. The Bills defense had little chance to stop the Cinci offense. We saw that on Monday night. That theme just merely continued a few weeks later. Injuries, lack of quality depth, and a horrific Fraizer playoff defense were simply no much for the Bengals O. After analysis a reasonable football mind should be able to conclude the Bengals were the better team and better coaches team. The excuse of a player "no show" and or other side noise effected the outcome is something I'm not buying into. It's a nice little excuse that fits nicely into the Bills failure.

What makes you think the Bills players were a no show? They had no answers to stop the Bengals. It was the same results of the previous Monday night game. Not a lot was different! That certainly discredits your "no show" argument. Certainly, bolsters the claim that the Bengals were the superior team. With respect, let's be honest here Gunner. The Bills offense played poorly but I really don't think it was because they were flat or unfocused. It was mainly due to lack of WR talent, porous Oline, and a predictable game plan. Lou Anarumo out coached and out schemed the Bills in a domination fashion. Case in point, Diggs taken out of a playoff game again. What a surprise! It wasn't because they were flat or a no show. I'm not buying that BS for one minute. With respect, let's be honest here Gunner. No let's use the "no show" argument in its proper fashion. THE " NO SHOW" WAS THE BILLS COACHING STAFF. The team had a terrible game plan, made terrible adjustments, and looked dazed and confused in arguably the biggest playoff home game in years. The team was unprepared in every facet of the game. That's on the coaches!!! With respect, let's be honest here Gunner. After the game, McD and others conveniently create a narrative that gives them an out. Only in Buffalo does that fly. Try doing that in a market like NYC, Philly, etc...Fans would have eaten the coaching staff alive. Rightly so, I might add. Jerry Sullivan where are you when we the fans need some tough hard questions asked? No accountability is usually not a positive sign.

I don't see it as such. I think the Bengals were the superior team, had a fantastic game plan, and executed on all levels. It was frankly men playing against boys. We saw a 8 min preview of this a few weeks before in Cinci before the Damar injury. The Bills were by most unbiased eyes were getting waxed and more rhan likely loss in a big way. Fast forward to the playoff game and It was more of the same. Total domination by a better team and better coaches. Yet, fans want to pound the table and keep a unproven narrative alive. I get it though.

It looked like Cinci was the better team from the get go. Honestly it looked like a high school power house team dominating an over performing less talented team. Exactly what we watched a few weeks before Damar got hurt. The excuses for the loss continue in so many of its fans. It really amazes me. Denial is real. No offense but that's how I see it.

Very nice post and point Gunner.

This isn't outlandish here. Not popular and hope you are incorrect. I have optimism because of number 17. The team is not likely a playoff team without him. Most likely going to be the top paid QB too. Well deserved too. Unlike the contracts of Daniel Jones, Watson, and Murray. Lamar is debatable.

It stimulates conversation. That's not a bad thing. Beane is pretty good with working the numbers. I suspect he will have his work cut out for him in the next few years. Hopefully, he can be a little more successful; especially with his draft picks and acquisitions.

Oliver was there for the trade as was Gabe Davis. Neither are elite and still had decent trade value. Edmunds should have been traded as well. Is Beane missing opportunites to retool and save money?

Is it really a Bills hater vibe? I really didn't see it as such.

I'm not a great numbers guy. I do know that Beane is excellent at moving around money and working the cap. I think I he will get creative and continue to do so. Just seems like the window is getting tighter. Missing on draft picks certainly hurts you because it allows you to have quality players on the cheap. KC is a really good example of that with McDuffie and Pacheco.

Not doomed but not ideal either. I thought it was pretty fair. The basic theme of the article is the Bills are paying older guys bigger money and they have some serious cap issues. The final paragraph or two are what really caught my attention.

Why are people saying Waller is washed up? He is severely injury prone no doubt. He suffered a grade 2 thigh/hamstring injury and missed basically the whole season. I'm no doctor but I would think that's plenty of time to recover. I don't get the washed up talk. Is Von washed up?

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/07/13/bills-championship-window-salary-cap-crunch-outlook

Knox is pretty good and solid. He is getting paid a lot so that kind of makes many think he should be more productive. Last year was pretty hard to gauge. He was either kind of bad or non existent to very good. I remember him getting very few targets early on and then went ob a nice TD catching spree. I think many of the issues might have been coaching, schemes, etc..

He's always been much better than Oliver from the get go. You compared him to Oliver which is like comparing a prune to a watermelon. Williams has size and strength that Oliver will never have. He might be close to being as quick too. I'm pretty sure almost every knowledgeable football fan would say Williams is a beast. Happy to have him on their team and pay the man. Everyone except you I guess... Stop digging the hole...