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As long as we have Josh, we have a chance, sure. But it's not a great one. I don't disagree with much of what you said, but the bigger picture here is that any way you slice it our WRs are not good, and objectively one of the worst groups in the league. Teams do not respect any one of our WRs. In the playoffs against good teams, if they shut down Cook and dare our WRs to beat us, we are screwed absent a miraculous performance from Josh. That's just not sustainable over a 4-5 game stretch.

No way the Bills WR are better than Jax, Giants, Carolina. The others are debatable. Hunter and BTJ for Jax are both way better than anything we have. For Giants you have to include Nabers, not to mention slayton and Robinson who are better than any outside WR on our team. For Carolina Tet would be our #1 by a mile, not to mention Coker (and maybe Legettee too) is prob better than any of our outside WRs. Our WR room is probably the worst in the league objectively if you are looking at starting WRs only, although we do have some depth of mediocre WRs. The worst part is, this was the case last year and it cost us when it mattered. And was entirely predicable before this season too. I was as hopeful with Keon as anyone but he just doesn't have that starting high end ability. We have to something. Shaheed or Myers would be a start and at least give us a shot this year.

Replace Pitt with Baltimore but otherwise agree.

Agree there clearly some frustration and things have been off, but at this point for the Bills sake... who the heck cares!! He's an unbelievable talent and we so desperately need it, you think Josh Allen couldn't help get him motivated? We have a strong, almost choir boy like locker room. We can take a guy or two under our wing. We don't have a realistic chance at the superbowl this year with our current roster construction. it would take a miracle, hero ball perfect play by Allen essentially the whole year. Sucks to say but it's the truth. Nobody on our offense even remotely worries teams outside of Allen/Cook, and teams are rubbing that in our face daring our receivers to beat us. It's embarrassing honestly, and so predicable even prior to the season. We have to do something. We cannot waste Allen and not get a superbowl. Capitalize now while things are sour in Jaxsonville with BTJ and get a slight discount.

Sure maybe slightly, assuming we switch to a 4-3 base, rather than nickel, which seems unlikely. Still, doesn't address the two tremendous needs we have on our roster, WR and S. Safety play has been AWFUL, both in the run and pass. Rapp is not a starting caliber player and Bishop has talent but is so inconsistent, he's a liability right now. We have to add a solid piece there, entirely outside of any run D concerns. WR is also a must, Josh needs help. Teams are rushing 5, bottling up Cook and DARING the Bills WRs to beat them. We can't keep putting it all on Josh.

Came here to post this, very interesting to see this news at the same time Athletic confirmed Bills have been making calls for WR and S. BTJ has been off this year (him and Tlaw just not on the same page, couple bad drops, new scheme they arent' using him the same etc) but looked like an absolute superstar second half of last year and would be an incredible get for the Bills. Instantly the best receiver on our team and changes our entire offensive outlook. The fact we could possibly by slightly low on this guy given the awkward first few games he has had this year would be amazing. On 2nd year of a rookie deal that includes a 5th year option. Get it done Beane!!

How would this help us at WR and Safety?

WR and S are the biggest needs. CB is a need right now but once Max is worked in within the next few weeks that need will become a lot less (he can't possibly be worse than White, even as a rookie). Not against adding a veteran depth CB that could spot start in a pinch but don't want to give up any significant draft capital for temporary starter /depth player, and don't want to hinder Max's development. Let him work out the kinks now so he is more comfortable by playoffs. WR and S are glaring, tremendous needs (and this was obvious before the season as well). If we want any realistic chance of making it to the superbowl this year (other than praying for Allen playing perfect hero ball 4-5 games in a row, which is just shot in the dark) then we have to try and do something at those two positions.

You are misconstruing the fascination, we are DESPARATE to add a go to, difference making receiver (and if you aren't, what are you smoking and can I please get some?). There aren't many options for those on rookie deals given our cap situation, Olave is one of the only possible fits. The obvious glaring problems at WR and S known before the season are still glaring problems and it's become quite apparent to even people who doubted that. So any sensible Bills fan is wondering if there are any potential options, and Olave is certainly intriguing, even with the concussion history. We can't keep wasting Allen's prime years like this. I love the idea of a sustainable contender (and nobody is saying we sacrifice the farm) but it's going to so hard to win a Super Bowl if it's entirely dependent on Allen playing perfect hero ball 4-5 games in a row, it's just not sustainable. We have to take a calculated risk somewhere.

Hard to disagree with any of this.

They don't need him to be a superstar but a real threat would be nice! It only works because Josh has to play at a super human level. We have several quality receivers but nobody that scares you and no guy on the boundary we can depend on when we need a big play. Hoping Coleman progresses further and quickly or once again its going to be all on Josh. Will we stack regular seasons wins? Sure. But not sustainable to go on a Super Bowl run in this conference. Coleman has shown flashes but he's got to be way more consistent to take the next steps. He's nothing more than a marginal starter at this point, that's the truth and I was a huge fan of his coming out of college.

McDermott literally just said there is a chance he doesn't come back this year. At this point, surgery can't be ruled out. That isn't wild speculation that is actually an intelligent question given we know that McDermott often under sells how significant injuries are.

Love the big play by Jackson Hawes late in the game there, and what a strike by Allen, and good job to hang onto by Hawes. But why on earth is our rookie, 3rd string blocking TE on the field in such a big moment when we have Kincaid and Knox? It's not like it was a disguised pass where we showed a run look and had the blocking TE slip out, this was a late game passing situation. Worked out this time but would not in most cases. Need to hear an explanation from the coaching staff on that.

Right, but it's a reality that easily could have been avoided by brining in another starting caliber safety this offseason. Passing on Emmanowori was also probably a mistake (same with Cooper Dejuan last year), same with passing on moving up for BTJ who was just a couple picks ahead of us the year before. Still can't get over that. BBB is agressive to go get Elam and Kincaid, but won't budge few spots for BTJ?! Sickens me.

Everything you said at the top is fair, but it's not hate... it's fatigue. We are sick of hearing about (and seeing on the field so much) a backup NFL safety. That is exactly what Hamlin is, nothing more, nothing less. I'm so glad he didn't die, it's a cool story, but the constant attention he gets is nothing but a distraction for the team. No backup player (or kicker/punter) of any sort is worth a distraction at the NFL level, shoot, even Tim Tebow couldn't survive this unwritten NFL rule. The fact that Hamlin has gotten to play as much as he had speaks to the poor quality of our safety room these last couple years, he has no business being on the field for anything other than special teams/emergency spot starts. The safety play was bad last year, and we didn't address it all other than hoping Bishop improves. This is where the frustration is coming from, that we are even in a remote position where Hamlin may have to play regular snaps. I'll give Beane/McD the benefit of the doubt on Bishop until later this season (as they earned after how Benard worked out after losing Edmunds), but if Hamlin has to play a lot this year I will lose it.