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tbh, if the NFL media could go back and give Josh the MVP last year and Lamar the MVP this year, I think they would

Nah it’s just nothing they want to do. Guys at 26 with $60M in the bank want to get bottle service at eleven with 100s of beautiful girls around them, not go to a hole in the wall dive on Elm Street. The reason the guys who settle down, get married, move on to a new page in their life generally stay in Buffalo. Guys like Fred Jackson. Buffalo has a lot of appeal for a guy like that because it’s the same appeal it has for a lot of fans. The young guys never stick around because there’s not much here for them. Hell, half the guys posting on this board about how great Buffalo is left for one reason or another.

Brain says Shakir, Dawkins or Brown. Heart says Cook. I know RB’s aren’t important. But there’s something awe inducing when he hits a gap and you just know he’s 1 bad angle or missed tackle away from 6. Big runs have always had a special place in my heart. Probably Stockholm syndrome from 20 years of miserable passing.

Against today’s QB’s today or todays QB’s in their primes? For the first, i have these guys ahead of Kelly in no particular order: Allen Mahomes Burrow Lamar Love Stafford Herbert He would slot in right around 8-10 with Baker/Goff/Hurts.

This is part of it. There’s a weird chemistry/connection issue with Josh and Samuel on those plays. the other part of it is that defenses have nothing to fear from Samuel EXCEPT those quick WR screens. They haven’t done any motion hand offs or pop passes or any much else. If you were a DC, you are telling your guys if there’s numbers on Samuel’s side of the field, watch the quick screen. You’d be right like 90% of the time. the other part is also that explosive ability we saw from him preseason where he touched the ball and was moving half a step faster than everyone else seems to have gone up in smoke with his injury.

Brandon Beane disagreed with this assessment which is why he traded for Cooper immediately. The argument ended when he traded a 3rd round pick in October. There’s no other explanation.

Man it’s almost like exactly what 26 year olds with money would be interested in. Diggs wasn’t taking a family of 5 to Art Park on a Saturday.

Haha what Are folks really surprised that there’s way more for multimillionaire 20 and 30 year old men to do in LA or NYC or Miami than BUFFALO

Bills, Chiefs or Eagles will win it all so I break it down to 45% for the Iggles because they just have to make it to the dance and the other 27.5% is split between the Chiefs and Bills.

Yes and no. Is it possible that someone else was also at fault for the Diggs’ relationship breaking down? Yes. Is that an excuse to act like a baby and force your way off the team that gave you an extension that they didn’t have to do to keep you happy? No. I long opined that it may not “all” be Diggs. Maybe he had legitimate grievances with the OC, McD or Josh. Maybe he didn’t. But what he could have chose to do is put it behind him and come to work and give it his all. And he did not choose to do that. And that’s 100% on him.

Coach of the year has become the “everyone expects this team/QB to be crappy and they somehow make the playoffs” award. You would need to go undefeated to win COTY at this point if you have a franchise QB. Or take over a team like Dallas next year and win 14 games.

As the OP, I will say that Milano looked better this week than the last two weeks.

Just wait til he complains about talking about hypotheticals...... after he brought up hypotheticals. It's a classic.

I’ll also go as far as to the say the Bills maybe are a 3-4 win team with the Raiders QB situation. Lol

I think the W/L delta between Josh Allen and not Josh Allen is far greater than the delta between Jordan Love and not Jordan Love. Isn’t Malik Willis undefeated as a starter this year for the Pack? The same Malik Willis that couldn’t complete a pass in Tennessee? Probably the WORST example you could think of. Burrow is a good example of a QB who needs to do everything and has failed. The Bengals are a playoff team with Josh right now imo. And I think very highly of Burrow.

I’m not bashing anyone. I don’t think @MJS even took it as bashing. I’m having fun talking about how great Josh Allen is playing. You’re having fun talking about me. We are not the same lmao I guess what I’m trying to say is that the bolded is not longer a perhaps to me. Allen is playing head and shoulders above everyone.

I’m not what ifing. im trying to quantify the impact of what Josh does vs what another QB does who by all accounts is playing really good football.

He isn’t just affecting the game “playing QB” was my point. Jared Goff had a helluva game. He’s had a great year. There’s high level QB play, and there’s 1 of 1 QB play. Josh is giving us the second and is 1-1 in his last two games, not just playing nearly mistake free, but making plays that only he can make. There’s probably some folks that think the difference between a Goff and Josh on this team would have us 9-5 instead of 11-3. I would argue it’s closer to 5-9. That’s how much Josh is doing.

He’s just better than Jim, man. It’s okay to admit it lol

You don’t watch enough NFL games if you think Josh is playing like other QB’s this year.

It’s a fair gripe. Kelly saved his worst football for the end. He’s still a HoFer and one of the best QBs to ever put on a Bills uni. But he was like the anti-Aikman. Aikman would get carried and play horrible all year and then flip a switch come postseason. Kelly would be throwing all over the yard all year til the end and would lay an egg.

Not convinced the 1 seed will be up for grabs. Also not convinced that Bishop vs Hamlin will be difference between beating the woeful Jets/Pats x2. You don’t even have to play him all game. Let him rotate in for 10 snaps when we have a double digit lead but we aren’t pulling starters yet. Experimenting so guys that we may NEED if someone tweaks an ankle can get reps is the benefit to having some tomato cans at the end imo. If Bishop gets better and shows some stuff on tape, that’s great. If he looks out of place, well at least he got some more experience out there. What I don’t want is his next snap to be if Hamlin/Rapp get hurt at halftime in the AFCCG

If Josh doesn’t put on the cape for the first two drives and get us a 14 point lead making the plays that only he makes, we likely lose that game. Despite Ty Johnson having the game of his life. Despite Spencer Brown playing extremely well. Despite James Cook having some great runs. Despite Joe Brady probably calling his best game of the year. Despite Ed Oliver seemingly making half a season’s of plays in 1 game. It’s honestly not a debate. Other people can do good things or great things. That’s wonderful. The Bills lose without Superman doing Superman things. My evidence for the offense being all Josh Allen is him winning MVP with Mack Hollins playing the most snaps at WR on the team. My evidence for Josh Allen being the entire offense is that he has 900 yards of offense and 10 TD’s in his last two games. And he would have 11 if not for a soft call at the end last night.

Josh just has 4 Super Bowls to play horrible in and lose to surpass Jimbo. Fun fact, Josh already has 5 more TD’s in the playoffs than Kelly and 24 less INT’s.

“No play can entirely be because of the QB” is the take?