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I would kind of read these two takes back to back. Dorsey didn’t choose the pegs but it’s Brady’s fault that Mack freaking Hollins was our only boundary WR with experience pre-Cooper trade?

Meh, that's how you get into "whoever has the ball last wins" games. I'd prefer to shorten games, try to double up a possession and then win that way, similar to our Chiefs game this year. We outpossessed them by almost 10 minutes, and had an extra drive on them. They ran 51 plays to our 71.

Poyer and Hyde were both All-Pro in 2021. Tre was a year removed from his All-Pro season in 2020. Hyde and Poyer's would come a year later in 2021. They were all on the field in 2020. Hyde and Poyer were together with Taron and Milano in 2021. Are we counting Milano and Von as past All-Pros? If it would help to be specific, we had multiple defenses in the past with All-Pro caliber players in their primes playing. How many of those do we have this year? 1, maybe 2 if Benford gets it (I don't think he will).

He’s an every stat god. But I don’t think those actually adequately capture his greatness.

If we are going to grade predictions, this one was pretty spot on lol. Bills had their run/pass ratio closest to 50-50 since 2019. Their lowest plays per drive since 2019. Josh’s lowest passing total since 2019.

Very badly. we have had borderline elite regular seasons defenses with multiple All Pros fall apart in the postseason. Now we have a mediocre defense without any All Pros heading into the postseason. We are going to need to run the ball and keep opposing teams off the field… a lot.

AV doesnt do it for me personally. Theres really no stat that appreciably can tell the difference between a Joe Burrow sitting the pocket and hitting an 8 yard out on third and 7 to Chase and a Josh Allen dodging a free rusher, rolling to his right outrunning an edge rusher, then hitting Mack Hollins squatting in a soft zone while throwing across his body for 8 yards on 3rd and 7. Both plays are good, but they are not equal. PFF tries to quantify that difference but they kinda stink at it.

I think Josh for his career is roughly worth 8-10 wins on his own. Like if you put him on the Giants or the Raiders to start the year, they are both playoff teams. He makes the entire team better. The HC’s are more aggressive because Josh rewards them for being aggressive. He makes the defense better because every third or 4th down he converts is another drive they stay off the field. He is a one man offense. A weird mixture of Elway and Cam. He’s 1 of 1. There is not a player individually worth more imo.

It may shock you to find out, but everything we talk about here is moot lol.

No it shouldn’t be. Especially if they beat them this week. I’m just saying why there is no buzz about him being MVP. I think he has a case if he wins this week. Like a really good top 3 case.

The goal shouldn't be "how do we give Sean McDermott the best chance to win a Superbowl." The goal should be "how do we give the Buffalo Bills the best chance to win a Superbowl."

It's no fun to wave the white flag early. It's good to know that you stand on business that Nick Sirianni is a great HC and better than McD because he has the 5th all time winning percentage, especially because he is doing it with a clearly worse QB than Allen. Hell, he even has more conference championship game wins, more Super Bowl appearances and has never missed the playoffs in his career or finished with less than 9 wins. The Eagles would be crazy to let that guy go. The Steelers haven't fired a HC ever and they last won a Superbowl when Obama was inaugurated for the first time! What if he wins a million Superbowls in 20 years? Perish the thought!

I would argue a couple. Ty Johnson had legitimately the best game of his career against Detroit. That's partly how Brady deployed him that game, especially in certain packages and looks that we hadn't seen before. I would say Cook has been optimized. Going from 6 TD's to 17 TD's on 30 less touches is pretty impressive. Shakir has a career year on less snaps than last year. Sure his outrageous efficiency stats took a dip, but that's not a knock on Brady but a by-product of that being completely unsustainable on high usage. Mack Hollins has been optimized. I don't think he's a good WR, at all. But he's making positive impacts the way he has been deployed, which is better than we can say about complete zeros like Sherfield and Harty who Dorsey had no idea how to use. I think the OL is playing the best they ever have since 2020. That's partly Brady. Josh has been optimized. I believe part of that, the lion's share even is Josh, as well as the departure of Diggs but I find it hard to give no credit to Brady. I'm not saying Brady is perfect. Samuel has obviously been a DISASTER for whatever reason, hurt or Brady has no idea what to do with him. Kincaid has been a complete disappointment too, but I didn't really love the pick anyway tbh. I don't agree that this offensive talent is much better than 2022 or 2023. Or that the circumstances are much more ideal. Hell, Brady has Mack Hollins as the WR leading the team in snaps. He had to integrate an actual good boundary WR midseason instead of having an entire offseason. If you want to argue Dorsey was hamstrung a little bit by his talent constraints, I don't disagree. I do disagree it has been all rainbows for Brady. His best WR going into the season was a raw 2nd round rookie (who has missed significant time with injury). His new best WR wasn't in the building until October (and missed games with injury). His #1 WR on the field is Mack Hollins. If the Bills were like 8th in points, there would be lots of good reasons why they stepped back this season, and most of them wouldn't be on the OC. They didn't, they are maybe better than ever. And Cooper is a large part of that imo as well as Josh taking another step but so is Brady.

I think Darnold is actually kinda deserving of consideration, ESPECIALLY if they win the #1 seed. What holds him back is kinda complex to me. He's kinda been a bum everywhere else and it's not like the Vikings are a perennial bad team, they had good years with Cousins who was fine to good but no superstar, so he gets less credit for their spectacular season. It's the Jimmy G spector hanging over Brock Purdy's career effect. They also have really good talent. And, maybe most importantly, the MVP is a narrative award. The entire early season narrative with Minnesota was "how long can Darnold pretend he's a good QB," then when MVP talks started heating up in late October/early November, they dropped 2 against the Lions and the Rams. Now it's almost January and no one has talked about him being MVP because the narrative was never cultivated.

So because you didn't answer my questions, but instead posted this, I'm going to assume you do think Sean is a miracle-working head coach. A one in a million. Well, I think your wrong. Not only is your stat wrong (he's 17th all-time) https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ But he's ahead of guys like Andy Reid, Sean McVay, Sean Payton, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, Parcells, Bill Belichick, Tomlin, both Harbaugh's, Joe Gibbs. Do you think he's a better coach than all those guys? Nick Sirianni is currently 5th all time in the NFL in winning percentage. Is he the fifth best coach in NFL history? He's far superior to McD in winning percentage. He's the greatest active coach currently and only a few wins more to catch Lombardi? Maybe he will be the greatest coach ever. But that's weird, you called Sirianni a bum earlier. Apparently it's not all about winning percentage. Odd.

Hot coordinator please! I'm honestly open to promoting Brady before I let him leave. Or Brad Johnson of course. You brought up the Andy Reid comparison. The Eagles fired Andy and won a SB while he continued to choke away playoff appearances in KC until he got a generational QB who arguably is the best in the league. Do you think the Eagles were planning the SB parade in 2017 and saying "we shouldn't have fired Andy Reid!" (the Chiefs lost in the WC to the Marcus Mariota Titans that year). I don't. Would you be upset if McDermott went to the Falcons and won 3 SB's with Penix in 2034? I wouldn't, I would be very happy with him because I think he's a good dude and a good coach. Josh Allen is clearly a top 2 QB in the NFL. A generational QB. Finding a QB like that is FAR MORE difficult than finding a good HC. It's not even close. How a Bills fan who watched this team die every season before it started for 20 years because they didn't even have a good QB, let alone a great one is bananas. How many coaches can you list who are in McD's realm in coaching ability? How many QB's can you list in Josh's realm? Obviously, one list is far shorter than the other. Your comparison is not good. How many coaches could get this defense to 26th in yards per drive, 16th in points allowed per drive, and 29th in 3rd down stops? I can't pull their DVOA, but I would imagine its not elite either. Probably a lot. How many active coaches could win 12+ games with Josh Allen as their QB? I think lots. Do you think McD is a miracle worker coach dragging the best QB in the NFL and the MVP to the playoffs? We all know why we are afraid if the Bengals sneak into the playoffs. It's not because Josh is our QB. We all know why we are afraid if we have to play the Ravens in the second round. It's not because Josh is our QB. We all know why we are afraid to go to Arrowhead for the AFCCG. It's not because Josh is our QB.

It's going to be a back. Not sure Mitch can throw past the sticks.

Josh Allen's progression has been a huge component of this offense, there's no doubt about that. There's also the departure of Diggs who was almost certainly demanding usage. The trick play in Baltimore was indefensible but we haven't seen something so stupid since. Correct. Brady is an optimizer, not an innovator. He's taken a JAG like Ty Johnson and put him in a position to be the most efficient of his career. There's certainly an aspect of Josh helping elevate these guys too, and Brady isn't perfect (that deep fade to Shakir needs to exit the playbook), but Brady is making these guys more than the sum of their parts. Which tbh is the best you can reasonable expect without getting lucky on a true offensive mastermind.

They won a Super Bowl before Reid ever did. Will it bother you if we win a SB with a different coach next year and McD wins 2-3 10 years from now with the Falcons?

Championships last forever though. what is the concern here? We hire an HC that cuts Josh? That even if a new HC wins a championship, he still might get fired one day?

Dorsey was a bad OC. I think I can name one play that he actually won with scheme in his entire tenure. The fake QB sweep jump ball to Davis in the 2022 opener against LA. Brady has had a dozen or so this season alone.

This has been my take as well. WR prospects have never been more talented as they are currently, and their delta between FA dollars and rookie contract dollars is approaching 2nd in the league. I have finally formulated my take that if you have a QB making franchise QB money, you never pay a WR unless he is like a top 5 guy in his prime. It’s just bad business. Let the Tee Higgins of the world go get $30M from the Pats or the Broncos.

Nothing is etched in stone. Shakir could blow out his knee and we could get pennies on the dollar. I do think Beane is very much thinking about whether to extend him or not this spring and at what price point. That’s kind of the GM’s job to think about these things before they materialize. Which is why I think he will be extended this spring. Not really sure why you have such an issue with that take? Honestly the Bengals have it worse because their owner has no money, but there’s also an aspect of “knowing” you have a $35M contract pending hamstringing you from making shorter term improvements. Jamar Chase is elite and imo worth every penny. But if his extension wasn’t on the horizon, the Bengals as a roster doesn’t fall off like they did in 2024 imo

Waiting has its own challenges. I think it would be smarter to wait. Smarter still to run away at $19M+. I still think he will be extended in the spring.