FireChans

That's not what you said. Either way, Roquan Smith IS making $20M per for 3 years. It's front-loaded, like most big contracts are, to reduce early cap hits. These contracts are pretty common in the NFL. I don't want to pay Tremaine a cap hit of $9M next year to take a $15M cap hit to cut him 2 years later.

But he's not playing for them year 4. So he plays for them for 3 years for $60M total.

No you're wrong. After year 3, if they cut him, they have a hit of $15M. Which makes it 3 years, $60M. You don't get to cut a guy and let him keep playing for you.

We just did it last year with Saffold. Paid him 6.5M, only was 4 against the cap. The thing about Roquan's contract is their "out" is really 15M of dead cap. A not so insignificant number.

So why would a guard's cap hit be on $4M next year? Only doing cap wizardry for some players?

Huh? We were #2 in points allowed. We lost to the Bengals because our offense (which averaged 28) scored 10.

My head agrees. but with how important S play has been to the Frazier D, I don’t see how Jordan walking makes us better next year. Because, IMO, Jordan walking means we need to either sign a reasonable FA or draft a DB HIGH. Neither of which are ideal. IMO, ideal off-season is reach a 2 year deal with Poyer, Edmunds walk, trade or extend Oliver to reduce his hit, and sign a middling MLB. Then you have flexibility in the draft to focus outside of S/DB (although with Hyde and Poyer old as hell, JJ sucking and Hamlin TBD, S will still need to be addressed.)

They need to draft a WR so they don’t have to pay Gabe and they have someone to take over when Diggs is old.

I love how the topic is “Eric Bieniemy isn’t a good person” and you make it about the poster. EB thanks you for your service! We’ve all choked a couple of parking lot attendants in our day. Boys will be boys!

Jeudy’s value has to be inflated by the “win now” circumstances around Wilson and Payton. I don’t think Payton is there for a 2-3 development period. I know they traded Chubb under similar circumstances, but how many trades like that do the Broncos care to make?

I got trolled and ate the trash. *****.

I'm out here posting facts baby. Don't let me get hot. You can't even dispute it. Imagine thinking that Rex is great and Leslie Frazier sucks. You know Rex got canned in like 2 years and was the biggest blunder the Pegulas ever made as Bills owners, right? Lmao.

THE REXIT. 16th in points 19 in yards last time he coached. 22nd in points per drive. He BENT and BROKE. A true defensive savant. Allowed 30+ points SIX times in 2016. Frazier has allowed 30+ points FIVE times in the last two seasons and playoffs COMBINED. Get lawst.

What in the actual *****? Rex's "pulse" is a disaster. There's no excuse for this ignorant of a comment from a Bills fan, unless you were born in 2017 Talk about asinine comments. It doesn't matter how you felt. We were top 2.

Okay? I don't really care. Andy Reid's rep was a PLAYOFF CHOKER FOR YEARS. Period Again, above.

This white washing of Andy Reid is so embarrassing. This guy was always thought of as “good coach, but a choker who can’t win a Super Bowl.”

Josh Allen can’t be mildly criticized because he’s a good player? Because you don’t want him traded for AR15? Because he’s under contract? I got nothing

Behind as in less? Less turnovers is better yeah?

I think we can beat Reid/Mahomes if Allen plays better, McD and the gang coaches better, and the team gets better. All things I believe are possible. McD posted a winning record and a playoff berth with Tyrod so I’m kind of unclear on what point you’re trying to make. Reid had more success without Mahomes than McD had without Allen, but Reid had better QB’s. Reid had McNabb, Vick, and Alex Smith. All infinite better options than Peterman and EJ and the gang. But he still never won a Super Bowl without Mahomes. And he had A LOT of Mahomes-less years, where McD had 1. Where we differ is, yes, obviously McD wouldn’t have as much success without a top 5 QB. There is no team in history that has. BB hasn’t been rattling off Super Bowls without Brady. Arians never won without Brady. Reid never won without Mahomes. Payton and Brees. Kubiak and Manning. The list goes on and on. But that doesn’t mean your QB can’t play better to give you a better shot. Big Ben, Brady, Manning, Mahomes, Brees etc have all vacillated year to year in terms of performance to a certain extent. They didn’t put up 5k yards and 50 TD’s EVERY SEASON. They ebb and flow. So the solution is to put the best possible team around your QB, hope that your QB has a better performance than their average, and hope that it’s enough to beat the other contenders and superstars when it matters. Patrick Mahomes is a better QB than Joe Burrow. But if Mahomes had 3 OL out instead of Burrow for the AFCCG, I believe there’s a REALLY good chance that Burrow is the one playing yesterday. This season, I believe that Josh Allen didn’t elevate his game like he did last season in the postseason. That’s okay. It happens. It’s okay to admit. The team played poorly, coaching wasn’t great and the QB didn’t elevate to a point to overcome that. All things that happen to all great players. The Chiefs won’t continue to run the table in the playoffs for the next decade. Bad breaks will come. The history of the NFL tells us this. In summary, the answer is not “trade Allen” or “fire McD” or whatever. The answer is, “do the best job possible building around your franchise QB, and when the lights are brightest, hope he plays closer to 2020 regular season or 2021 postseason form than 2022 postseason form.”

Where would Andy Reid be without Mahomes? We already know, zero Super Bowls. I disagree ENTIRELY that Josh's recent propensity for TO's have not held this team back. In the Bills 3 losses last year (which locked them out of the 1 seed after the cancelled Bengals game), Josh had 4 picks and 2 FL. 1 less TO of the SIX that he had means we would probably have locked up the 1 seed, the bye (which this team desperately needed), and the path of Jaguars to AFCCG at home vs the winner of Chiefs/Bengals. Does that mean we would have won the Superbowl or even the AFCCG? No, we may not have. But if I had the choice of bye, Jags, then winner of Bengals/Chiefs then Super Bowl vs Dolphins, Bengals, Chiefs in Arrowhead then Superbowl, I take option 1 all day every day.

Because it’s a football discussion board and “Josh is great SHUT UP” isn’t good discussion

I never said this. Surrounding Josh with better talent will help him play better. Better coaching will help him play better. And him not making as many boneheaded decisions will also help him play better. Are there any of those you disagree with?

There's something telling when any mild criticism of Josh Allen, like "I wish he didn't turn over the ball the most in the NFL," or "The QB is somewhat responsible for team success and failure," is met with "SO WE SHOULD JUST TRADE HIM AND DRAFT A ROOKIE QB BLAH BLAH BLAH."

WE HAVE NEVER WON. HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU NEED TO BE PATIENT FOR

The Eagles got burned when they blitzed. They got burned when they dropped. They had a front 5 that had 56 sacks on the year. They had a league leading 70 sacks. None of them got home. Relying on your players that got you there and were terrorizing opposing teams all year is not a bad gameplan lol.