JoPoy88

busy couple of days no big deal. The other option was Beane making no noise and you and the other mods closing 50 whining threads. I’ll take this option

exactly. We should be getting flowers and edible arrangements for this **** from the rest of the league. Not spite from our own fans who clearly have no sense in how to evaluate these things. Clutching pearls over, OH MY GOSH, the 22 pick in the draft. I would have given them the 3rd overall pick for a young, proven commodity like Diggs. ”You want the brand new boat or you want what’s in the mystery box mr. Griffin?”

shoutout appreciated! I know it’s BoB season all over the media and for good reason. He may (probably) be a dumb GM, over his head, and have visions of himself being the new Belicheck in 10 years. But he’s not suicidal. He would’ve been flayed in the town square if he traded Hopkins to Buffalo. That was never, everever, on the table. So please stop comparing the trades.

Basically this. Which is what people have been trying to beat into the heads of some here for 50+ pages of this thread. Cardinals got very lucky dealing with a power hungry ego maniac. Good for them. They were lucky (by chance of being in the opposite conference). People comparing the trades and the trade compensation are disingenuous at best. Cardinals were smart and lucky, Bills were simply smart (and in no way in the running for Hopkins.) While i’m replying just a reminder: if the Bills didn’t get Diggs, the Patriots most likely would have.

Terrible how chief? Because I quoted you accurately?

you really, really should move on. The fact that you characterize the deal as “giving picks away” speaks volumes. Giving something away usually means you received nothing in return, at least nothing of value. That couldn’t be further from the truth in this case. So please, yes, move on.

Wow. 50 pages in and I never thought so many people would be so enamored in and attached to the speculative value of draft picks, especially lower round draft picks. Mystery-box syndrome seems to be endemic around here.

Hmmm. Almost 4 pages of good, informative replies to the OP and no response from him/her whatsoever yet. Honestly this smells like a drive-by “stir the pot” post to me.

McBeane pick

very fair. After their misadventures with Zay, can you really blame them?

I think it’s safe to say the word is out all around the league about Gase. Disaster in Miami, complete disaster from almost day 1 in new jersey.

Ooof. Good luck with that jerruh

He’s been elite since high school bro. There are posts in this very thread citing metrics that suggest he was a top 5 WR last year, even with the turbulence with Cousins and the coaching staff early in the year. Do some homework.

he’s only “pretty good?” ?

“Could” being the operative word there.

For you and the rest of you missing a giant aspect of both of these moves: realize that both these WR trades were INTERconference. BoB may be stupid, but he’s not so stupid to trade his premiere WR to an AFC team that he just played in the playoffs and figures to be a significant playoff obstacle in the future for Houston. Hopkins was never going to an AFC team.

you bumped your crusty thread to inform us of this? Look at the front page of new threads. I think we’re sufficiently on the lookout.

Gross. I suppose Croom is going to be there to press Sweeney in camp and the better of the two will stay. Obviously i’m rooting for the BC guy in that scenario. Problem is Kroft sucks and Knox has a drop rate damn near 20%. I don’t see another kittle or kelce emerging out of this group. and the less said about lee the better.

Not answering for Gunner, just want to throw in that I also heard he didn’t do the combine because of “the long clemson season.” Sounds like tired to me.

yes if jeudy and ruggs are gone (most likely) and they dont want to take an edge or OT there at 22 i’d much rather trade back and get another pick and reagor or mims (or even higgins! if they trade way back) as opposed to taking higgins flat at 22.

exactly. if people think higgins is going to be the best guy there whenever they pick then fine. I am sick of the jump ball, contested catch talk, as if that’s sustainable. How about just continue to get fast guys that can run great routes or even not-so-fast-but-smart guys that know how to get open? Sort of like the guys they’ve already brought in? Personally I don’t want Josh Allen of all people throwing into tight coverage; I don’t care if he’s throwing to a 7 foot tall tee higgins. I don’t have that kind of trust in him yet.

i will say, if Tee did run that fake 4.43 (which he didn’t) I’d be impressed. But he didn’t, he didn’t run on the same track that all the other guys did, and he still ran slow. dude people are just obsessed with getting a big guy, that’s all it is (remember the Duke Williams obsession?) Who cares if he can’t get open in the NFL? He can catch “jump balls!” As if building a modern NFL passing offense should be predicated on throwing into coverage and hoping big, slow Tee can out rebound the cornerback and the safety. Not quite how I saw KC do it, but let these guys have their fun.

Right. Probably why they drafted Zay Jones. All about that college production. Best indicator. Probably also why all those hawaii QBs that broke all those passing records had such epic careers in the NFL. All about that (((college))) production.

I could be we’ll see gun. I’m just not one to disregard a bad workout and claim “HEY BUT HE CAN GAME I DONE SEEN IT.” the WR class is so deep the Bills could miss like once or twice and still hit on a monster. My only opinion is Higgins is not that monster.

i just do not know if he can do that against NFL competition. Tee looks great and smooth there, especially for someone his size. How much translates with mediocre speed, mediocre acceleration? Just not at 22 EDIT: BUT if someone like mims is there in rd 2 i would still take him over higgins