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Limas Sweed 8======D Kelly

Sorry dude, not similar players at all. Watch some film and you could see that. Look at height and weight and you can't.

Is he the 11th pick in the draft anymore? No. As an avid proponent of his I will even omit that. But if he's available to us in the 2nd round he has the stuff draft steals are made of. Anquan Bolden, who many compare Kelly to, faced nearly the exact same devalued circumstances based on his 40 time. Jerry Rice, arguably the best receiver of all time ran in the high 4.6 range at best, some say even in the 4.7 range. The 40 yard dash is one of the most overrated measuring sticks in football. It has no guarantee the player has the real speed needed to play this game, football speed. If you watch tape on Kelly, it's clear he has great football speed for a man his size. It's also clear he has far more going for him then just that. Incredible over the middle potential, hands, body control, leaping ability, the list could go on and on. He likely wasn't fully recovered for this work out, and shame on his agent for sending a letter that he was. He was forced to run to justify his draft position, a position most predicted would be in the mid teens based on what he did on the field. Shouldn't that be the place that matters most? This isn't a guy that missed substantial amounts of action in college. A few games sure, not full seasons, or even half of one at that. We see good players injured all the time with knee and leg issues, who end up being or remaining great players post injury. One of our all time second round steals should come to mind in Thurman Thomas. Imagine where these types would be drafted if forced to run before they recovered? The season is months away, and he will heal, so why does it matter how healthy he is in early April? Kelly has every right to be pissed right now. He's being treated like beaten mule, and lost millions for everything but his on field performance. He will have a massive chip on his shoulder for whoever lands him, and I would be thrilled if we could get him in the 2nd round. When the dust settles, he will be twice the player Hardy or any other post 1st round option would be. I for one, still think he might end up being the best WR in this class. Flame away

Thats a very unfair comparison (rookie to potential hall of fame RB), past that, it's just a flat out horrible comparison of two players. Makes me wonder if you ever watched Thurman or Lynch to be able to make of comparison of them thats anything past receiving ability. Two completely different players all together. TT was never a "power runner", he just had an amazing ability to sneak threw cracks, shiftiness, never let defenders get a full piece of him. Lynch, in his rookie year, was already more of a power runner then Thurman ever was. He created practically every yard he got last year. He initiates contact almost every play, and it took multiple defenders to bring him down almost every play. The run blocking was atrocious. His ability after contact was incredible at times last season. TT just never took on that much contact, he had an amazing ability to avoid it by shifting or contorting his body to perfection. THATS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY HE WAS GREAT, not because he put his head down and ran over people. Heck if your going to compare Lynch to a hall of fame RB his style resembles Walter a hell of a lot more then Thurman.

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I would say that it would only matter if he was a drinker, but then again my dad only has one kidney and he still manages to be a professional at that.

Difficult question to answer. Keep in mind I've only been a fan since 1990, I can't comment before then. Super Bowl XXV- First year I was a fan, I was only 7 years old. If this happened today it would be #1 all day long. Home Run Throwback- Probably my most devastating loss. We had a real chance that year Super Bowl XXVII- Nobody gave us a chance, if Thurman doesn't fumble we have our ring. Flutie/Miami Playoff game- After we recovered the onside kick, went from elated to devastated in a matter of minutes Just give it to em- Pure disbelief, we played great in a big regular season game. We fought back on the road. We had victory stolen from us. MNF Dallas- All of us wanted this one so bad, then to lose the way we did. Only Buffalo. Wilford opener- 4th and how long? 5 players in position that last play to knock it down. Gut wrenching. NYJ OT kick return opener- The hype of DB's first game, the long TD pass on 4th down. Over just like that. Pittsburgh back ups- Our last real chance at the playoffs, at home, we blow it. Crap icing is my fathers a die hard Steelers fan. Ugh.

Hardy= the biggest bust in this draft. No physicality, no acceleration, no separation skills. Oh my gosh, he's tall, and runs fast in a straight line. Ever consider how much it helps somebody to run fast in straight line when your legs are the length of the average man. He made a living out jumping inferior, short competition. I would be shocked if he amounts to more then Matt Jones. I'll be ordering my egg Mccmuffin from him two years from now. Either that, or calling him for a 1,000 dollar late night hook up.

My balls aren't that old, so I'll go with Marino. Sure we dominated him, but he was all the Dolphins had for a long time, and that was almost enough for a long time. The year he tore his Achilles was the only time I celebrated an injury. It would be like Brady being out for the year. When he and Jimbo retired the rivalry died. It just doesn't exist like it did before, and as a NFL historian, I can still put that in perspective of the bigger Bills/Dolphins rivalry from days gone by. Sorry folks, but Bills/Patriots is more then Bills/Dolphins. Times change. Call me out old schoolers, but this just isn't the same rivalry it was back in the day. People no longer walk a mile to school in 10 feet of snow. Few care about the clash of cultures anymore. We own the Fins lately, which amounts to third place at amateur strip club night. Beating an average team just doesn't give me that feeling it did when Thurman ran screens all over them in the AFC Championship. The Fins just flat out suck the last few years, and our team has just sucked a little less then them. Ya de da.

But god forbid Trent goes back to read the bible in California for a couple months.

Why not trade him to a AFC east team? Clements or not, we've shut him down and beat the crap out of him every time he's played us.

I think the biggest problem with your statement is Buffalo not paying him to be just a good football player. Average football players in todays open market would make just as much, if not more the Schobel. Times have changed, players make so much more then they used to. AS is one of a few Bills signed/extended after the ratified CBA. Thats why he looks so over payed, in the greater scheme, his pay very reasonable for a 10 sack a year guy.

Tell me about it. Just because I quit, I'm not one of the holier then tho types. It's part of my life, history, I'm not happy about it in some ways, but I'm not mad either. You live, you learn, you prioritize, thats life. I'm sure a day will come when I will smoke again, it just won't ever be a way of life for me. I've done my fair share of drinking, hell, I used to be known for being able to handle amazing amounts of Jamison/Makers/Jaiger. For better or worse, that was a big part of my college experience, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. But if for one second people thought I was more of a danger to society and those around me when I smoked compared to drinking, well those are the people on the hard drugs. The only danger I was when I was smoking was to the large pizza sitting next to me.

I like AC, but I see him as good as gone after this season. Chalk me up as one who feels we will draft a OLB higher then people think. Mayo is the guy I think we might be targeting in the 2nd (if available). That pick might get some a little frosty, but he would be a damn good OLB in the cover 2 for the future, especially if we don't plan on retaining AC.

What a idiot. The grass cost him several hundred thousand dollars if not more. I smoked multiple times, everyday for the last four years. It never interfered with my job, or ability to get one (no testing). If it did I would have quit, no doubt about it. During that time I just felt like it was better to be stoned then think/confront adult problems. I still hold the opinion that marijuana is less dangerous then drinking, but if it becomes a way of life it has a lot of negative consequences, especially toward motivation. After all that smoking I quit, with no "withdrawal feelings" about a month ago. It's not a hard drug to get off of. The fact that he kept smoking this close to the draft, AFTER his possession charge at UNC, with so much to lose.... I just wouldn't consider drafting him. Not in the 7th round, not in the 15th round if this was the 60's. He clearly doesn't have his head on straight to risk so much over something so insignificant.

I forget about April fools every year, of course I got a guy at work who probably hasn't touched a women in 8 years who loves it more then anything. The dude took a screen capture of my computer screen and set it as my background, removed my mouse ball, hid my telephone cord to the phone, unhinged the bottom part of my seat so I fell on my ass, and gave every customer complaint he received (his job) to my extension number. That was sickening. This was just in poor taste.

Don't know much about him, and not to pre-judge but a 6'7 guard? I would have to wonder if he ever struggles with his pad level, or might be better suited at the tackle spot for the next level. Again, not saying a 6'7 guard can't work out, but G/C is such a leverage based position which is why you usually see more stocky compact players at these spots. His build looks ideal for a LT.

Good for JD, he deserves it. I followed him threw high school, college, and now he ends up as a major contributor with my Bills. Can't complain about a guy that busts his arse for everything he's gotten to this point. Now he just one of many players who provide us with excellent depth, and improved ST's play because of the last years injury crisis.

I saw a few Kentucky games this year, liked Burton as more of a middle round guy, like you said, somebody who could be developed. As for your point on Kelly I couldn't agree more. Edwards has west coast QB written all over him (probably why Walsh liked him so much). Kelly has West Coast WR written all over him. He's not the YAC guy Andre Reed was (few will ever be), but he's tough as nails on those slant routes, and does provide some YAC and major RZ upgrades. His body control and hands are out of this world. Recently Jauron discussed more three step drops, and quick throws. I expect the progression of this offense to be very timing based, stressing YAC. Will we come out and say it's a true west coast offense? Probably not, but it's a system that would seem to compliment our players and the inclement weather we face late in the year. Throw in our RB's who can catch, and the many suitable receiving FB's in the draft and it makes even more sense.

What many here miss and many experts miss, is the deceptiveness of big WR's and the 40 yard dash. I'm a very small example of this, playing a few years at the small college level. No I'm not big, only 6'0, but I have good timed speed in the 40. I have very long legs, and run fast in a straight line. My problem always was acceleration, and agility. Tall people, and long legged people can, and often will post decent 40 times. Some even great 40 times. They have a stride that covers significantly more area then the stride of a shorter/shorter legged player. This is the exact reason many of the 6'3+ types, who run fast, and get drafted high, fail. They just don't have appropriate football speed for the next level, which is just as much about timed speed, as it is agility, acceleration, and balance. Matt Jones is the definition of this type of player. James Hardy is this years definition of this type of player. The last few years dozens of "fast" big receivers have been drafted to high for this reason. Size does matter for a WR, because a bigger, taller receiver can do things a smaller player can't do. The thing is, it's only an advantage if you have football speed. Size and football speed together is a very rare combination. IMHO the only big WR in this draft who has both is Malcolm Kelly, which is why I've been such a proponent of his. I've watched enough film on him to know he does have football speed. As long as his injuries check out and he doesn't totally suck in his 40, I would take him at 11 all day long, and twice on Saturday.

Maybe you misunderstood the intent of that comment. All franchises with top 5 QB's have a chance to reach the playoffs and super bowl in any given season. The league as a whole is that watered down, and exceptional QB play is the great equalizer for long term success and ultimate success in most instances. If Trent somehow raised his play to that level next year, which I admit, is EXTREMELY unlikely, I feel we have no limitations on what we can accomplish as a team. Brady was often called an overrated check down guy in his earlier years as well, thats is until he just kept succeeding. He developed more to his game down the road, and now will go down as one of the best ever. No denying Trent is not much more then a check down guy at this point, but I think he has real potential as a true west coast style QB down the road. If/when the potential is ever realized it could finally take our team to the next level for a long period of time. I would like more strength at Center just because we face so many 3-4 schemes with huge DT's. Fowler is often overpowered forcing guard help, freeing one of the MLB's, screwing the pooch on our end. That said, it's nice to return 5 guys, we will see the rewards from that, even if all 5 aren't considered great players (the whole right side from center down could be better IMHO, you just can't have 5 studs across the board). From what I understand he is, so is AC at OLB. I think many would be shocked to see an OLB drafted early. I expect it. Teams often draft for expected departures the year prior.

Thanks, I tried changing it back after I realized nobody will respond to your posts if they don't recognize your name! Server said I couldn't switch back for another few months before the great wall crash of 08. Thanks SDS, helped me. As for the schedule, I thought about including it. It doesn't seem like it could be more brutal then it has the last two years. I decided to leave it out because you just don't know who will be good one year to the next. Lord knows we sure could use a break in that department.

I agree, PLEASE LET THE MAN STAY HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not disagreeing with any of your comments, but this is more about 2007 vs 2008. Sure we still have some major shortcomings as a team, but I see us improving in these areas vs 2007, which was a fringe playoff year (luckily or not). Anything can happen that debunks some of these, like another rash of injuries etc.