Mikie2times

I will spare a long list of reasons. Just using what I feel the pace is set at. It’s almost impossible to see any leadership changes happen after 2019. That said, if we meddle for two years I see the fans out for blood and the leadership doesn’t survive after 2020. Curious if people think they get more time?

Love the pick. You can’t find him behind the line. Fantastic football speed. Low center of gravity. Bounces off defenders. People get way too caught up in his 40. In today’s NFL you aren’t likely to outrun defenses. This guy plays the 0-15 yard game as well as any back in the draft.

Not old enough to have seen him live but I have watched a lot of highlights on him. In my opinion Sayers had the best full speed agility of all time. He could cut at top speed and not lose any speed. People might be quick to argue Barry should get this honor. Barry is certainly the most agile, but he never really had a top gear. He was much more violent with his agility and acceleration. Barry had that wide base and ability to cut no matter what he was doing. He could stop then accelerate faster than anyone in history . Sayers made his cuts in full stride without slowing down at all. Both are two of my favorite backs to watch highlights from.

Brown played at 6-2, 230 pounds. He was solid muscle and ran the 100 meters under 11 seconds at Syracuse. He benefited little from any modern day training and often commented at how little he worked out. Give him the benefit of modern training and he's running in the 4.4's at 240+ with the agility of a deer.

I think the OP has a point. All due respect to Jim, the game he is trying to give Allen advice on is not the same. It’s not even close. Maybe it doesn’t do any harm per say but why are we reading about this.....AGAIN? We know Jim loves football and Buffalo and we love him. But I get where the original poster is coming from. This is like the 3rd-4th straight QB Jim “needed” to speak with. Its a bit undermining to leadership even if the staff would never say it. Its a bit “keep me in the spotlight” even if Bills fans wouldn’t like to say it. If this wasn’t the case why doesn’t Jim privately schedule his conversation? Why do I always hear about his need to speak with our QB’s in the media first.

Reddit NFL streams. Then you have Reddit College Football streams, etc, etc. For NFL it used to be poor, barely functional, but at this point you get a great stream on most games.

Lackson is running right now because he has always had that as a primary part of his game. I don't like that being a primary part of a QB's game. Exciting at times, too few examples of Super Bowl winners with that profile. They tend to get figured out at this level based on speed. I don't expect running to be a primary part of Allens game. I think right now he is leaning on it a bit more because he can't read defenses well and he wants to move the ball and win. In leaning on his run game he has happened to be very successful and ultimately increased our likelihood of winning. Our hope is Allen gets better at reading defenses and then he can become more reliant on his arm. Future is uncertain as well as his ceiling. With Lamar I just feel the ceiling is already in. As teams acquire tape on him his performance will just decline.

He’s profiling like I expected if the glass was half full. Progressing like I would have liked. When he isn’t thinking as much and has a rhythm in his drop (playaction) the guy is an absolute monster. You have to/hope/Billieve, in due time that Natural PA cadence he has translates to normal drop backs. What’s funny about any Allen ridicule is out of every first year example in the recent era of a future Franchise QB’s you didn’t know it year one. Maybe Russell Wilson or Cam are the closest I can think of and like Allen, both used the run game a lot those first few years until things slowed down more.

We need a consistent deep threat. I hope he can become that. Taylor and Sammy in 2015 was really the last time we had it.

Yup...I will elaborate on my thoughts.. 5. Jackson- Run first quarterbacks fail at almost a 100% clip. Don't think he can develop as a passer. Who knows..... 4. Rosen- Rosen is making things worse as he develops. Not showing progression. Committing a lot of turnovers. Who knows..... 3. Darnold- Looked the part for a glimpse only to flutter. Committing a lot of turnovers. Who knows.... 2. Allen- Threat with arms or legs make him productive as he develops. Who knows...Clearly more gifted than any of them 1. Mayfield- Star? In sum, Rosen, Darnold, and Allen clearly will not show instant game changing returns. If you had to pick from the 3 on who you want long term I have to think it's Allen based on the same reasons we took him in the draft. His athletic abillity, arm strength, and build are a rare combination. Not to mention, in theory, he should be the guy that has the most upside to learn given his background.

Responses in this thread are pathetic. If somebody wants to physically punish a child and it’s within the law that’s a choice. People that want to start throwing in the “back in my day” “school shootings” “cell phones zombies”. If kids were only beaten more we wouldn’t have these things...... Go to a bar and cry to somebody about the glory days. Maybe you can talk about how well adjusted you are based on your mutual beating stories and how they made you the man you are today.

We are at 22 turnovers on offense this year in 10 games. We had 16 all season in 2017. We are trending toward 1 takeaway less than last season. The entire reason we made the playoffs last year was taking advantage of teams similar to this years Bills squad. We would end up +3 and with a guy who never turns it over and we won. Edge in the turnover battle and elite defense will get you ahead of most of the teams trying to break in a pretender/not ready franchise QB. Our offense would have sucked. It would have been one and done if it happened.

We have almost a carbon copy of last years team in an even weaker playoff battle. With Tyrod I think it would have been back to back playoff years. Give him two turnovers in a game and he wins more often than not. No, I don't think he's good. But what he does do is protect the ball, enhance the running game, and to some extent mask poor offensive line play. Whats even more silly about the whole thing is he gets traded to the exact same situation he would have faced here. Perhaps he would have had the same fate in Buffalo he has in Cleveland if he was retained. I know Taylor has been talked to nauseous levels. I just find the thought process on this interesting and I'm curious what others think. Is this a playoff team with Taylor?

It was always going to be Allen. https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/07/buffalo_bills_gm_brandon_beane_describes_what_he_looks_for_in_franchise_quarterb.html

Could be another nobody like Kyle Williams

Rosen has been horrific thus far.

Not as much as I like but enough. 75% of the league is separated by 1 or 2 plays, only a couple teams have consistency enough to avoid that statement. For as awful as the roster gut and offense have been, I'm just as impressed with what we have done with our defense. Some NFL fans have been crying about how they can't help but allow 30 points a week. I would find that to be a much greater frustration and negative stain on our team and coach than our current situation of being offensively challenged. We seem void of talent on both sides in effort to rebuild but again we are playing top 5 defense (6th according to DVOA).

Yup. Deep in two bills drive archives is my summary of his first preseason game. Caught my eye with his leverage and motor. Never would I have thought he would have one of the most distinguished careers in Bills history. In saying that, in all areas. Great leader of men. Never gave up. Really an inspiration which you don’t tend to say a lot about modern athletes.

I agree with this. I'm 36, became a fan in 1990, joined this forum when it had a different name..... Those 90's Bills don't feel old to me. But 1990 was 28 years ago, so if you did the same exercise in 1990 you would be reflecting back to 1962.....1962 certainly sounds old to somebody my age. It's all relative.

An article was posted on what Beane looked for in a QB awhile back. I found it intriguing because it was well prior to the hype involved in this years draft but it ended up being spot on to the player selected. Beane talked a lot about physical traits like size, arm strength. It sounded very Cam like in what he wanted. I don't know where Allen's ceiling is. I didn't like the pick, but even with Allen's struggles I'm much happier we have him vs Rosen. Out of the two we didn't get, they probably look the best, but not exactly lights out. Allen has the most raw talent and we likely don't end this year being able to declare any of them franchise guys. So........

Anybody in a leadership role has had immensely talented people that don’t fall in line and eventually bring down the overall level of success. So yes, culture is critical. I would also say anybody worth a salt in a leadership role manages to save the majority of talent and or get a buy in, because ultimately not enough talent exists to just make everybody buy into what your selling. I’m indifferent to this quote. This is our regime and will be for some time and if you think this is bad try taking this roster and what few pieces we have added and convert it to a 3-4 or a new system. AKA the last 20 years of Bills football that cycles every 3 seasons.

You see it all around the league. The modern day blue print for building a Super Bowl contender. It starts at QB but does so in different ways. You either have substantial resources invested in the QB position which likely means you have one of the elite or you position yourself to get the "future" on a rookie contract. First approach forces you to draft well at every position because you likely aren't bringing in a lot of top dollar FA's. Second approach (what we are doing, what most teams are doing), go after your guy, once you got him, maximize FA buying power and create a 3-4 year window to make a run. You see several teams at different progressions in this process. Rams are an example of a team that is executing this perfectly. Bears are an example of a team that is trying to execute this but still question marks at QB. This approach hinges on the guy who you thought was the guy at QB in fact being the guy. I think we shape up in between the Rams and the Bears as far as our outlook but that is short sighted. We need more information. At the least Allen, in my opinion is viable to now max the cap in FA talent. Then you just hope you make the right moves. That is the process and the Bills are clearly executing it this year. Goal this year is to keep seeing progression from Allen and our more coveted draftees . In the interim I expect we will be all over the map with results.

3K on Buffalo with the points. I’m doing the same thing but for better reasons ?

You should be extremely worried. Teams that start off 0-2 against the spread cover at about a 60% clip the last 5 years in the 3rd game. This is a huge spread. Backdoor covers in play. Minnesota just got off a very hard fought divisional game. Wouldn't shock me a bit if the start slow. For as bad as the Chargers game went they would have covered against these odds. Public all over Minnesota. I made great money Week 1 and 2 off the Bills. It's either play on or play off them this week. At absolute best this is a 50/50 outcome. Most are, but anybody serious about handicapping knows when to pick spots on larger wagers. I just don't see any variables to justify this being one of them. It's like buying Bitcoin when it was at 20,000. Unlike weeks 1 and 2, everybody has caught on at this point. You don't want to be late with sports betting or investments.

Nice contrarian view point.