Mikie2times

I’m not in a place to break data down right now but I would be far more interested in knowing the ratio of points vs turnovers against teams that are above .500 over multiple years vs two randomly picked teams. We roll the pups of the world and in those situations all things are not equal. We rarely will ever commit a turnover in those games. Once the situation becomes equal in a competitive situation if I was to bet we don’t do that great in that ratio. As Buffalo requires 50 pass attempts and other teams aren’t taking near that much risk.

Our style of play is too dependent on Josh. We can analyze a TD/INT ratio and as many have pointed out, the huge TD rates are what balances out the higher turnover rates. So we say ok, we will take it. But other teams can score without it being from their QB at much higher rates. At the end of the day how many turnovers you allow really matters when all things are equal (similar points scored). This is not Josh’s issue as much as it’s a Bills issue and it’s beyond just what weapons we have. If Josh is part of the offense vs him being the offense we don’t throw 50 times and we avoid the all but inevitable INT that comes with fifty passes.

We are a below .500 team in close games. Our schedule is not easy. We should have at least 2 close games, if not more. So to think we will suddenly change a pattern that has been very consistent for 3 years. I can't agree with that even if I do feel we are talented enough to do so.

Braylon is high. He’s beat Ohio State three straight years. He will be welcome at Michigan if he punches a nun.

I had to get my “process” tat removed from my lower back

I know, I was agreeing with you

He basically won one more game than Rex averaged with Taylor. Crown him.

Stacked by winning% in the regular season. Coaches with 100 or more games who have never won a conference championship. Some good company Terry. Eventually these statistical anomalies we keep seeing with the team are not anomalies. Sean is setting up to be more of a Marty than Marty and it's not like it's hard to see why that is. ×

Are these sources deep within?

What’s hard for me with all of this is just trying to set the bar if he does return. What is it? Super Bowl or bust? Surely another failed playoff attempt wouldn’t be deemed successful. Seems like a pretty bad situation for all involved.

Again, I cant with you guys. It's like we are watching two different things. Josh is also my guy, love him as our QB. Just don't see this the same way. I hope we get to time where these details just don't matter anymore.

You're one of the best posters on the board but I just can't with this. Best QB that ever played the game? Look at some of the teams Brady won with. Scrubs. If he was even the vapor of the breath you speak of he would be able to influence things more. I'm a die hard for this team and I just don't understand how you can see it like this. I'm also riding off in the sunset now because as I said in the DM, I'm not here to argue about a guy I love. I just don't see this topic as you, GoBills and Cincy do. But I still love Josh and I think even his detractors feel the same. My opinions and statements are not implying anything less that that.

It's 30-15 vs a sub .500 record. You said he was on the same level of a two time SB champion. I think the burden of proof is on you.

Your level of detail is appreciated. I'm glad the goal post is proving you wrong.

The Bengals were 2-14 when they drafted Burrow.

Mahomes is 30-15 in the same clip. It's on you to chase gooses.

Bills are 33-3 since 2020 when they allow under 20 points. They're 11-8 with 20-30 points allowed and 2-7 above 30. So to be clear with how I view QB stats Allen is 13-15 if the defense allows more than the league average. Let me know what other requests you have.

Deflect

It’s post year one for both. If you think it will change that much if we exclude a playoff season in 2019 I encourage you to run the numbers.

Buffalo is 14-18 and KC is 30-15 when defenses score over 20 points since both QB’s first years. What exactly do you want the defense to be held to? More than 20 and we lose.

We will become enraged at the poster of this thread. Plan a strategic hit against McD only to fail and give McD’s spouse a tums.

So retro

This has to be first. As for regular season, the Chiefs in 2021 and 2022, the Patriots 2nd game in 2021 after we lost (was basically for the division). We could give him some credit for Patriots 2021. I think the Dallas Thanksgiving game could go on here. If we stretch thing maybe the Baltimore game last year or Thanksgiving game in Detroit. This is probably more telling than even the losses. We have no signature playoff wins outside that Baltimore game and no more than a couple regular season wins per year you would hang your hat on. We are really good at beating the crap out of bad teams and even that has diminished this year.

It was his best game since 13 seconds against a legit playoff team.