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I wonder if there will be some stubbornness about wr going forward with Beane? I mean…grown men dont like to be told how to do things and even go out of their way to do the opposite in a lot of situations. Of course we all know this will not likely happen, but I’m sure Beane is gonna wanna be right in this and not feel like he’s giving in to the fans.

OP is complaining that the Bills didn’t take a safety. Haha. At least they took three corners for the defense crowd. I literally can’t believe that they keep talking about speedy receivers and took ZERO receivers. It might come back to haunt them.

This is exactly where I’m at. If their answer to the WR room is banking on Coleman taking a step then it could backfire in epic fashion if he doesn’t. Remember…that’s EXACTLY what happened with Gabe Davis. He had the big playoff game against KC and they looked at him as the answer at WR2. Then the drops came and his lack of speed showed up. They didn’t have an answer because they completely bailed on picking a receiver in that draft. Hopefully they learned their lesson. I think it’s reckless to not continue to add another dynamic to the offense today. Why are you so against giving Allen the best help you can find? Serious question…

Oh really? Yeah because there has never been a good receiver drafted in day 3.

It’s an issue that we lack speed on offense too. Other than cook, who else puts fear into defenses in that respect?

I agree. Once the run starts, the viable options will go quick. WR with speed is a definite need that so many on here completely ignore. If we don’t come away with a decent option, it will most likely show up sometime in the season like it did last year.

All key players are returning? Ummm…didn’t Mack hollins lead the team in receiving tds? He’s gone. Like it or not, speedy WR would open a lot of things up for this offense and keep defenses honest so we can utilize Allen’s arm. I completely and vehemently disagree with you that we should double on corner and d tackle before we address this need. Keep an eye on Ayomanor.

Yes I agree. Anyone that thinks we should just go all defense without getting a speedy WR isn’t paying attention. Allen has no deep threat at this point and that takes the bazooka out of the game plan. We need that dynamic. Go get a WR with the first pick today, then the defense crowd can have their way the rest of the draft for all I’m concerned.

Yep…it’s not a coincidence the deep ball accuracy was lower last year once Allen didn’t have a true deep threat. We can’t continue to think we can dink and dunk teams to death. We need to get a deep threat back, or I fear this team is in for a slight decline in offensive production. Also…we have the best qb in the league, with quite possibly the strongest arm ever. Why the heck wouldn’t we want to utilize it? Watching Allen throw short to intermediate almost all season last year was rough. We need a deep threat to keep the defense from crowding the LOS.

Why start now? They clearly drafted for need in the first three rounds even though Landon Jackson was amazing value.

With Benford considered a top 5-10 corner in the league, he has to be next for an extension, right? IMO, if Beane allows him to hit FA, it will be a crazy bidding war for this guy. With corner already being a need, we can’t risk losing this guy. I’m honestly surprised he wasn’t the first one to get paid this offseason. He’s a game changer. Thoughts?

Oh wow…didn’t see that about nolen. Interesting. Give me Harmon then. Haha. If not a DT, then take golden if he’s available and finally complete the wr room with a full skill set. If that’s what you need then you can easily get a fat DT in round 2 or 4. This is a very deep DT class and if you can’t find someone to disrupt then just wait. Someone to absorb doubles reminds me a lot of Star lotulalei. Get me a DT with pass rushing skills at 30 or just wait. Just my opinion

I still think I’d rather have nolen or Harmon.

I realize Kenneth Grant is gonna be a popular name for a lot of fans, but go look at his draft profile. Just about every evaluation says he’s a “work in progress” as a pass rusher. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t want another guy that just takes up double teams and can’t get home. Get me a wrecker that gets to the qb. Derrick Harmon and Walter Nolen are those guys from what I’ve read. I’ve really cooled on Kenneth Grant after reading more about him.

Yeah I agree. I would argue Dawkins and brown are both top 5 at their positions. But other than Allen, and those two, we don’t have any top 5 talent. Perhaps Benford can be that? Yeah this has been my gripe all along. We have a defensive minded coach that can’t figure anything out on defense when it matters. How is that not concerning to everyone in the building, let alone us fans?

Sadly, this is very true about Coleman. I also wanted Addison and Thomas. Looks like that would have been the move. However, Beane got a pass catcher in Kincaid, who I still think can be a difference maker. Imagine though what this offense would look like with Thomas. And I think the poster you quoted was right. Most of Beane’s players are ok to decent. That’s what guys that lack elite talent are, as you mentioned. There is nothing wrong with being a little critical because these lacks of elite traits are what keeps getting us kicked out of the playoffs.

Golden is very good and I would love him at 30. I also like Tre Harris from ole miss and Egbuka from Ohio state. Any of those would be worth 30, assuming they are there. If the BPA is a huge, fat DT, then take him. We need run stuffers. But I disagree about CB at 30. Maybe with one of our seconds, but I also think that position will be filled in FA or a trade.

My personal preference is to take the best DT or WR at 30 and then use the second rounders for whichever we don’t take at 30 and an edge rusher. Right now we have 3 picks from 30-62 and we should be able to find a couple contributors there. Remember…Beane does some of his best work in the second round, where we currently have 2 picks. With that said…I am a fan of trading 30 for a proven player. The draft is a total crapshoot, especially where we are drafting. Get a proven commodity like we did with Diggs and let’s go win now.

The qb sneak was the right call each time. It should be automatic and was all season. I felt like Josh didn’t get low enough at any time last night though. He was too upright.

There will be a lot of pressure and attention on Coleman and his development next season. The bills were widely thought to be looking to trade up for one of the big four WRs in last years draft and instead traded down twice and took Coleman. They essentially lost out on Brian Thomas (a reasonable trade up), traded the pick to the chiefs that became Xavier worthy, and then traded the pick to the panthers that became Xavier legette. Thomas is a pipe dream, but the reality is the bills essentially passed on worthy and legette for Coleman. If they become stars and Coleman struggles going forward, it’s gonna be really bad for beane. Before last night, I didn’t want to admit that this wr room still needs work. The “everyone eats” mantra was cute this year, but in the end, we needed an alpha to lean into and make plays. We just don’t have have that. Shakir is very solid, and I think he’s the only guy in the room that isn’t replaceable. Cook is another irreplaceable at this point. Other than them, all of our other skill players can be upgraded. It just sucks that we are still in this spot. I think Coleman can be “good”, but I have doubts he can be great. He’s not a separator and that’s what we need. With have a qb with the biggest arm in history and we have not one guy that can win vertically downfield. Instead, we rely on quick hitters all the time. It’s gotta change. Anyone in the league can make those throws. We need at least one guy that can outrun the coverage downfield and go over the top. The lack of that threat killed us.

Yeah…first time all year that they scored 30 or more

As a Bills fan, I’ve seen this team lose in the most historically spectacular fashions, so I’m not giving a single rip how we won or what the national narrative is. Like Peter shrager said this morning…this might be the first time that something like that didn’t happen to us. I’m not going to let it bother me one bit.

Hello all…been a minute since my last post, but I just thought of something…this next game will be on the one year anniversary when my wife had her brain aneurysm. In fact, the 630 game time is almost to the minute. For the duration of the game, it will be a year since me and my kids were traveling to York, pa after she was air lifted for emergency surgery. With saying all that, it’s important to note that she absolutely loved the Bills and looked forward to game time every week. The fact that she isn’t here to see this run kills me. But this is so eerie that it feels like it’s meant to be. This team is different and we should all feel privileged to be along for the ride. Don’t take it for granted. We are living in the best times as bills fans. Thanks again to all of you who reached out and even donated on my go fund me when this happened. It will never be forgotten. Love all of you…very proud to be a part of this fanbase.

Sadly, this will likely show up in the playoffs at the wrong time. Think about it…the defense has been the issue for while now and has cost us wins in almost every “game of the year” in the nfl. Allen plays his guts out and the defense fails him. What makes it worse is that that side of the ball is our HCs specialty. Not a lot of confidence right now that it won’t show up again in a tight situation.

The main issue is Mack Hollins is in the game in the first place. That guy is core special teamer, but not a starting nfl wr.