Buffalo Junction

I have no doubt that he’s the best looking WR there. His route running is light years ahead of most college receivers and he has good hands. Go watch the LSU game where he pwns a cb repeatedly with technique. My viewpoint stems from him having advanced coaching (Dad’s an NFL WR turned NFL WR coach) coupled with him being 24 and having likely maxed out his physical potential as well. It’s in my other posts about Jefferson. He’s a solid bet to not only make a roster, but open the season as a WR 3.... high floor. I can’t recall him just flat out physically dominating top competition though. @Ayjent might be able to provide an example since he’s a ? fan. I’m just not sure if teams are going to run to the podium early for the kid unless he lights up the combine or fits need when there is an abundance of talent at the position. I can definitely see him fitting in with Gruden, McVay, or McCarthy. Jets will have the full book on the kid since his dads their WR coach. Out of curiosity. How did LaMical Perine look at practice? I’m curious about him since he has had moments where he just takes over a game, and other times there’s just no holes.

Man. I was really hoping that story would end with Bruce or Wiley saying “bad things, man.”

When the Aaron Hernandez special comes off of Netflix? ?‍♂️

If I’m a tv exec I would push for that Seahawks game to hit prime time, especially if Beane goes and signs Clowney. Just too many talking points with both teams going to the playoffs as road teams the previous season, Metcalf vs Tre White, etc.

He might still be a 4th rounder. There’s a lot of WR talent, and how Mel sees things could be wildly different from GMs.... ref. DK. Metcalf. Hard to tell anything before FA and the combine when all the agent talk and interviews kick into gear. I do think Jefferson has extra value for teams looking at a positional overhaul as opposed to teams looking to add home run hitters or develop talent. I could see Beane double dipping this draft and grabbing a WR with tons of potential and another with a high floor.... depends on the value. I’d rather swing and hit on a Robert Woods than swing and miss on a Carlos Rogers.

AJ Brown might be the closest physical comparison to Moulds. I haven’t watched much of him in in Tenn aside from when we played them. Nice breakdown. My Jefferson concerns are that he can get outmuscled by physical press corners, and that he’s a high-floor low-ceiling prospect. The latter isn’t necessarily a bad thing if he’s available in rounds 3-5. I’d be pretty happy if Beane spent a 3rd to draft a rookie that is better than all our depth WRs by game 1 of the regular season. Plus he grew up in an NFL household, so he’s not going to be shocked by the schedule and work demands.

I can’t make the leap. There are some stunning similarities. Particularly with how they can both play(ed) physical, maintain concentration on the ball and their body control. However, Moulds was often the best athlete on the field. Just bigger, stronger, and faster than any of the secondary players, so it’s difficult to compare Deebo to that for me... Almost unfair... As a proper modern comparison might be to stick Deebos skill set DK Metcalfs body. Wouldn’t be fair to compare Metcalf either since Moulds had more agility and flexibility which is obvious when you watch them sink their hips. DK has that Moulds stiff arm though. Moulds was just a freak

Aiyuk doesn’t seem to have the same lateral agility as Samuel. That said, I love the kids ability to read the open field and weave through defenders... dangerous on slants; sudden on a 45, but not so much on a 90. Aiyuk goes from 2nd gear to 3rd in a hurry. Samuel on the other hand has RB moves and size. I’ve only seen a few of Aiyuk games though, so I’m giving a bit of a hollow opinion. Samuel I watched for years since I was living in Carolina at the time.

I view him similarly to Deebo Samuel (IIRC 40 was 4.7-8). Not quite as physical, but excellent burst right after catching the ball and the kid has excellent YAC ability. Plus, Aiyuk did the JUCO route, so there’s plenty of room to grow technique and experience wise. If he’s there at our 2nd pick I’d be rather content with the selection. I think he’d make McKenzie expendable.

Head fake, eyes, setting up double moves with consistency, proper and consistent use of leverage. Van Jefferson should be good at this considering his father was a NFL WR and has been a WR coach in the NFL for over a decade (currently NYJ). My concern is that Van Jefferson is maxed out physically and close to his limit with coaching. The flipside of that is he’s probably an instant upgrade to depth and could be a value as an instant WR 3.

I’m not as gung-ho over height as long as they’re over 5’ 10”. If they’re at that mark other traits can make up for it. If a guy is 5’ 11”, but has a giant wingspan and vertical coupled with serious speed, suddenness, and/ fluidity it’s fine. The one thing I want to see above all others is a WR who fights for the ball like it’s their god given right to catch it.

Which blew my mind, because the few times they ran jet sweeps with Foster, Knox, Roberts, etc they were effective. Any rational person would have gone back to the well for more.

Has he ever tightened up a run D? I can’t recall a good run D since his first year in NY under Rex.

Odds on Pettine getting fired?

They need to give Rodgers whatever he had after that bears game.

No. Shannahan groomed LaFleur. Reid would be the master in a KC SF matchup.

Not really. Baldwin grew with Wilson. He came into the league as a UDFA and improved.... as did Beasley. My point was that as good as those guys became they weren’t as good during Wilson’s first two seasons. I’ve also stated that it makes me concerned about our ability to identify, draft, and develop wide outs.

It’d have to be a situation like the 49ers with Bosa or a team that ended up with another teams 1st. Basically a team that had an anomalously horrid year or just got lucky. Getting a DE talent like that is rare enough to warrant the choice of QBS isn’t an immediate need.

I’ve watched a fair amount of Perine, and I agree with everything you said. I honestly think he’ll be around later because he couldn’t showcase with that O line. The uva game was an indication of his potential when the line does its job and you get him the ball in space... along with how he seems to elevate his play in big games. He’s an underrated talent that could be better in the NFL than college because of that. His pass blocking needs to improve, but he’s willing. There were a few times I saw him lead block for Trask and he looked competent. I’m looking forward to seeing him in the senior bowl. I view him as an upgrade on Gore that can sub in and not give away playcalling. Perine is a good fit without spending a ton of capital. At the very least he could take Yeldins spot. Add a guy like Shenault early along with him and this team could basically run 21 personnel and still use “5 wide” formations.

Pretty much. However, I’m okay with a team requesting an interview for a coordinator position from a LBer or WR coach before the playoffs start.... Those guys, if successful, will broaden the coaching ranks we can hire from later. Key is “early and substantial”. Being too late to find a quality replacement should be a non-starter for all requests unless they’re offering draft picks as compensation.

I’m happy they blocked it. We’ve had a few teams sniffing around assistant coaches and coordinators. I like the bills sending the message that unless it’s early in the hiring process and a substantial promotion there shouldn’t be a request.

I generally agree, but if there’s a guy in the big 10 that dominated against Ohio State and the rest of the conference I’m keen. As long as they perform in big matchups there’s no reason to devalue them.

They’re rarely equal. It comes down to the strengths of the coaching staff and how they interact with players. Either approach can get a talented team to the super bowl if the fit is proper. Sustainable success requires a blend as successful teams lose and replace both players and coaches. I say it’s an oversimplification because the basic question ignores the hiring practices of coaching staffs an GMs. How much “adaptation” is due to replacing an OC that was hired away or the HC actively changing his desired schemes? 9/10 times I’m going to assume that the new coordinator brought in fresh ideas or different approaches.

I think this is an oversimplification. The best coaches are “all of the above”. What defines their consistency and effectiveness is reliance upon arriving at their systems goals with adaptive scheming. Belichick seems to do this every year, but he’s not really changing the system. They’re really adapting formations, personnel groupings and play calls to fit personnel while keeping fundamentals the same. The first thing for BB is always situational football; don’t beat yourself. The routes and plays never really changed in NEs offense. It slowly shifts every year with additions. They just find ways to run similar concepts with 12 personnel instead of 11 personnel, or something similar. Same goes with defense. It’s almost always been about 2 gap play up front and controlling the LoS regardless of personnel. A lot of what they do looks more complex than it actually is. Generally NE utilizes simple wrinkles to existing schemes that the other team isn’t expecting. A good example would be blocked players on a cover 0 blitz dropping back into coverage; small wrinkle but massively effective. It’s taken straight from Fritz Shurmur who used it to fabricate a pass rush with a big nickel when he had a bunch of LBers get injured. Wade Phillips does the same thing. He runs 4-3, 3-4, etc. based upon available players and talent. Notably going from a two gap 3-4 here to a single gap 3-4 in Dallas, and what’s basically a single gap 4-3 over in LA. He just finds roles for the available players that fit the basic responsibilities and parameters of his defense.

I was autocorrected into a filter. Damn technology. ?