Ethan in Cleveland

Yeah except in this case it is fair criticism. When you give up multiple picks to move up and draft a guy that is not nearly as good as two other players in the same draft class it is fair criticism. That said I thought Edmunds was going to be a superstar at the time. Thought he was the next Brian Urlacher. Didn't like giving up multiple picks but thought the player was going to be great. BTW just cross out Edmunds and Warner and add Kincaid and LaPorta and its the same story.

Shakir is 25 too. Not sure he would make the listed top 25 but he's probably in the tier of top 50 guys 25 and under. Couldn't seperate himself from the pack of other under 25 uear old WRs...

LOL. We literally just had three QB's to end the season last year. You keep switching on me. Anyways just for fun I will make a $90 contribution payable to your favorite charity if they have 9 DL on the final 53 roster at the end of training camp. And if they have 10 or more I will pay $100 to your favorite charity. No downside for you! Correct. I meant Punt return. And I agree 100%. The return guy should at least be serviceable on offense or defense.

He's been in the league 4 years and is already 28. Not sure I would call him a young man any longer...lol

Three Steelers games in December? Four in five weeks? He must be betting on the resurrection of Aaron Rodgers. That week 17 game may only be interesting to see if Cleveland gets the first pick in the 2026 draft. KC plays the Chargers week 14 on Dec 14th. That game may decide the division. Have to think he will be there to call that one. Two words and three letters Josh Allen MVP

Ended the season is different than the initial 53 which is what I posted. It was 10 each of those years for week 1. In 2024 both Smoot and Carter were on IR thus the need to add Phillips and Jefferson. I think the DB situation was a little better in 2023 and 2024(perhaps not much after the Bishop injury in TC). At this point I have them keeping both Hancock and Strong from the rookie class. Also if the KR is a CB again that's another spot needed for the DBs. As I said above they probably get to 10 after the suspensions are over. Best way to carry 10 DL for week 1, is to get rid of Trubisky and just go with two QBs.

Nope. I went back and looked. It was five and five each of those years. At least that is how the initial 53 breakdown was. Maybe through the course of the year it changed. https://billswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2023/08/29/2023-buffalo-bills-53-man-roster-roster-cuts-brandon-beane-nfl/79143074007/ https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2024/08/29/buffalo-bills-full-roster-practice-squad-2024/74990566007/

I went back and checked the final 53. It was 10 in 2024 and ten in 2023. I think they get to 10 when Ogunjobi and Hoecht come back. I think there are just too many question marks in the the defensive backfield not to carry an extra guy there. They will have four veterans in DQ, Bosa, Oliver, and Rousseau. If they keep 10 to start the year then Epenesa will make the final 53.

As others have said, I can't see him getting cut this year. Even after they bring back the two PED cheats, he is still the only true 1 tech guy on the roster. Yes they want to make Carter and Walker 1 tech DT's but that is really hard to do. Carter was so bad he didn't dress the second half of the season. Of the current DL on the roster that might get cut, I think Epenesa is the most likely target. If Bosa makes it through TC unscathed then you already have two starters at DE. With Solomon and Jackson you have two young pass rushers. The final 9 will be: Bosa Oliver DQ Rousseau Carter Walker Sanders Solomon Jackson I don't see them carrying 10 DL until the PED cheats come back. They will use the extra roster spot to carry an extra DB. When the cheats come back, they will have a tough decision to make. They will probably find one of rookies to go to IR or maybe cut Solomon and see if they can sneak him back on PS.

Makes sense to some degree. I’d say Palmer took Cooper’s role and with Samuel playing better at the end of the year, his targets would go down. Obviously the Bills want Coleman to get more targets too. All that said, he probably has better stats as 4/5th WR with Allen than whatever he ends up at with the Patriots. Last year with Allen was more productive than he has been in almost all other years with lesser QBs.

Bell was one of the pieces of the Cornelius Bennett trade. He went to the Rams. He had a decent career - three 1000 yard seasons - one with Buffalo his rookie year and two with the Rams. Didn't live up to first round draft status but not a bust either. He had a ProBowl and was comeback player of the year his first year with the Rams.

C'mon man don't make me have to explain the joke/reference

If Palmer can be a decent #1, then all we need is Coleman to do what Hollins did last year. Kincaid, Palmer, and Shakir need to be the top 3 targets. After that it will probably be game plan specific production. If Coleman can be a decent downfield blocker and make some contested catches from time to time he will carve out a role. If not guys like Moore and Knox will get many of his targets.

Actually he switched positions and played dominant outside pass rushing LB for over a decade.

Get rid two preseason games, add an 18th game and a second bye week. Everyone gets one bye week in the first 9 games and a second one in the second 9 games. Problem solved.

I don't have any argument with anything you wrote. My only counter is 6 of the 9 GMs that passed on Mahommes were gone 4 years after that draft. I beleive only McDermott (defacto GM) and John Schneider are still with their teams. Seahawks already had Wilson. And the GMs that drafted Mayfield, Darnold, and Rosen are all unemployed. Elway of course is gone too. So I do not think it is much of a stretch to think that Beane would be out of a job if he had taken one of the other three guys.

49ers were in a tough spot. He might be great but he might not. I would have franchised him twice like the Commanders did with Cousins. I'm not sold he is the long term answer. It may have been cap prohibitive for them to tag him though. Difficult decision

Im not one to defend McDermott but he got White and Benford to start and play significant roles in their rookie years. Hairston can hopefully do the same. As for the DL McDermott is not going to change his ways. He believes in a heavy rotation of 8-9 guys that dress and 9-10 roster spots. They just need the rookie ends to be better than Epenesa ( not a hard ask) and Carter and the rookies to be equal or an upgrade to DQ. I'm more worried about the WR/TE group. Palmer has to be a guy that can stretch the field and create seperation. The metrics say he can but he still didn't produce much with Herbert. Hopefully Coleman's floor is at least as good as Hollins was last year. And Kincaid needs to be more of a downfield consistent threat. He needs to be an 80 reception guy.

Thank you

Does anyone know how they decide the 17th game? We got the Eagles this year. Do they match by how you finish in the division like they do with the other AFC teams? Bye could be a little later. At Miami in early Nov is far better than Sept! Would have liked Cin earlier. Don't like 4 road games in 5 weeks. And two tough physical games to finish the year. Hopefully Bills have it wrapped up and are not playing the starters week 17. Have a really good chance to be 7-0 before KC comes to town.

Would have preferred them week 1 with Hendrickson sitting out. Bengals usually start slow.

I would so gladly give up next years #1 for Hendrickson. Adding him decreases the reps and risk of injury to Bosa. I think it would truly put the defense over the top even with the uncertainty with the safeties.

Its pure speculation on my part. Just like you are speculating they would have taken Lamar. I've defended Jackson on this board for years. Since virtually no one had Lamar in the top 4 QBs to be taken I think its a good guess when they traded up they would have taken one of the other three if Allen was gone. For me Allen was always the guy to go get. I didn't know a great deal about Baker but didn't like his size or the system/conference he came from. I knew Darnold was going to be a bust. Saw it in college and posted many times before the draft. Any pocket pressure and he panicked even against patsies like Washington State. I'm not ashamed to say for me it was always Allen, Rosen, Mayfield as 1, 2, 3. After that I can't recall. I liked Jackson out of college as I thought he was a better passer than people were stating. That said I also tended to prefer pocket passers so in the end I probably had Darnold 4th with a lot of trepidation. Hope I'm remembering it correctly. All that said I didn't anticipate the running ability that Allen has shown. I fell in love with the arm strength in the Buffalo wind and cold. You can't teach arm strength. Most everything else you can improve.

If Elway took Allen instead of a LB, Beane and McDermott would have been gone a long long time ago. The entire history of the NFL would have been rewritten with Mahomes and Allen in the same division. Beane can use whatever revisionist history he wants, but at the end of the day he needed Cleveland, Jets, and Broncos to make fatal errors. Still wonder if it was Buffalo that leaked the text messages the day before the draft. Has anyone ever learned where that story came from?

I think the offense will be best if Palmer and Kincaid are the top two targets. Shakir is a solid WR but the offense is too plodding when he is the focal point. Really want to see more intermediate to deep throws by Allen and use the entire field. Next will probably be Moore. He should be more of a threat than Samuel. Samuel will be the 5th WR gadget guy. That leaves Coleman as the 4th WR. He may be the Hollins role and be out there on more running plays. Never liked the pick. Just don't believe he can get open against NFL corners. I really like Knox but there just is not enough plays for him to get the ball often. I thought he could be an elite TE but he never developed into a star. If Kimcaod is playing well Knox probably gets 15-20 receptions but might have 4 TDs.