CincyBillsFan

Yea but I'm also talking about practice, game planning and the selection of talent to surround Allen with. Bean/McD had a plan for Allen that fell apart by halftime of the Ravens game. That entire summer I couldn't understand what Bean/McD were trying to do. Living here in Cincinnati I knew what McCarron was - a back up QB that wasn't exactly a grizzled vet wanting to mentor a young QB. McCarron went to Buffalo to start, not babysit a 1st round draft pick. Why McD/Bean thought he was the guy to mentor Allen is beyond me. And don't get me started on the decision to start Peterman. At the very least how could ANY coach or GM think this guy could be a starting QB in the NFL? It tells me nether of these guys has a clue about QB's and the Allen pick was blind luck. But worse, Peterman who snagged most of the 1st team reps over the summer and then was so bad in the opener Bean/McD had to throw the rookie QB they wanted to sit his rookie year to the wolves. And considering that assembly of offensive backup practice squad level players that Bean had assembled they really did throw Allen to the wolves.

I agree. One of the great lies told by the local Buffalo/Rochester media and some in the national football media is the one where Bean & McD did a great job in getting Allen up to speed. But those of us who were watching this team in 2018 know for a fact that McD totally screwed it up. From not naming Allen the starter and giving him the lions share of 1st team training camp & preseason snaps to the failure to bring a veteran QB in to act as Allen's mentor to Bean's decision to dismantle the offense in the expectation that Allen would sit his rookie year only to see that plan blown up in the first half of game one when the Bills under Peterman couldn't get a single 1st down! Daboll and Allen himself are responsible for Allen surviving his rookie year and then making a great leap going forward.

Anyone that mentions Allen's pick in the face of over 400 total yards and 4 TD's is a troll. They're a drooling goblin gnawing on pigeon bones under a bridge. Only a moron of the first degree would throw out Allen's INT. Only a complete fool would act as f that one mistake diminishes Allen's spectacular game. Only an ignorant football illiterate would throw the INT out there.

* Solid owner * Facilities and organizational infrastructure rated by the players in a poll as among the top 10 in the NFL * A brand new kick a$$ stadium * A REAL home field advantage * An elite QB whose upside might be beyond anything we fans could possibly imagine. What do you think a truly innovative offensive minded coach could do with Allen after surrounding him with top tier offensive talent? So yes this would be the most attractive job opening of the possible 10 or so openings that might happen this off season.

If Allen does believe this and I suspect he may then McD will be gone after the season which would be a good thing. Over the last 6 weeks the Allen/Diggs situation seemed to clear up for me and it seemed like maybe Diggs was saying things Allen wanted to, but couldn't say as a franchise QB? I can't believe Pegula isn't on top of this.

All Brady has done is let Allen play like the Allen of the last 4 seasons. And yes as he's shown over the last 2 games against 2 of the better defenses in the NFL he is indeed a special, generational talent. It's clear from the comments starting in the off season and coming out during the last few weeks that McD and I suspect Bean, deliberately tried to remake Allen into a a very different QB. Whether they had Allen's full investment here or he just gave it that old college try we may never know. They did have their useful puppet in Dorsey who tried to turn McD/Beans vision for Allen into realty. But the sad realty is that they failed spectacularly, Dorsey took the fall and the Bills will miss the playoffs for the first time in 5 seasons. This failure, which should be laid at the feet of McD & Bean is a fireable offense IMO. Hopefully the elevation of Brady and more importantly the decision to let Allen go back and play like the Allen of old came directly from Pegula. If it did then there is hope that we can be rid of Bean & McD at the end of this season. I know that everything I've written here is pure speculation. But I've followed this team for well over 50 years and the evidence supports my take on events. Bean & McD messed with the magic sauce that made Allen a special talent at QB. They did this while also continuing to over value the D and undervalue the O. That's a recipe for failure and we're seeing it play out on the field.

And if we won that game today then we would have won almost entirely because of Allen.

And maybe it will take Allen making waves that gets us the change we need. I'm not sure what Allen's relationship with McD is. It doesn't seem great to me and it's clear from the comments of all involved that it was Bean & McD that tried to remake Allen into a different, less effective QB in the off season. I suspect that Allen has a clause in his contract that won't let the Bills restructure it without his permission. If he does then he has leverage. If Allen wants to succeed at the highest level and compete in and win Super Bowls, it will NEVER happen with McD as coach or Bean as GM. Allen will need to get out of Buffalo before all the tread is off the tire. Pegula absolutely will be sensitive to Allen's feelings here.

I agree about Floyd and don't care. Bean is a defensive minded GM and you're not winning a Super Bowl with a defensive minded GM & Head Coach. Both Bean & McD must go. They're wasting the talents of a uniquely gifted QB in Allen. This alone is a firable offense.

I think Bean & McD are part of the same problem: a defensive minded organization is at a real disadvantage in the NFL. And when you have one of the best QB's of the past 20 years fall into your lap and you don't focus the organizations resources on surrounding the guy with the best tools possible you're committing NFL malpractice in the 2020's. And now Bean/McD have tried to change how Allen plays the position of QB. The result is tat we're likley to miss the playoffs for the first time in 5 years. And folks don't doubt me that Bean/McD NOT Dorsey are responsible for screwing with Allen this season. They were forced by circumstances and hopefully by Pegula to unleash Allen and let him play QB the way he has the last 4 seasons. Against 2 of the better D's in the NFL Allen had been almost unstoppable and the Bills have put up 32 & 34 points. Bean and McD must go.

Wow, now this is both a weird and original take on Allen's TO's. I don't buy it though. IMO most of Allen's TO's result from two broad things: 1) Allen can be reckless with the ball and he pushes the limits in pursuit of the big play. 2) Allen's supporting cast, from a problematic O line allowing immediate pressure situations to pass catchers that struggle winning 50/50 balls and/or let passes slip through their hands into those of the opponent.

This thread is loaded with the same disgusting mental masturbatory posting by the usual suspects on 2BD throwing shade at Allen. These fools are simply regurgitating the fake QB narratives circulating throughout the NFL. Take today's Miami/Jets game. After 11 games Tua has 13 total TO's, including TWO pick 6's, against 22 total TD's. And the narrative is that he's the point man of a state of the art offense that is both explosive and careful with the ball. I bet Mickie boy has an Excel Spread Sheet chart to prove it! Meanwhile after 11 games Allen has 15 total TO's against 29 total TD's. And the Allen narrative is that he's a TO machine, careless with protecting the ball on an inconsistent struggling offense. Oh and Allen doesn't read defenses well and doesn't work out in the off season. And we let these trolls get under our skin.

Tua had 3 more TO's today (2 INT's & lost Fumble) bringing his season total to 13 against 22 total TD's (and TWO pick 6's) in 11 games. And the narrative is that he's the point man of a state of the art offense that is both explosive and careful with the ball. Meanwhile after 11 games Allen has 15 total TO's against 29 total TD's. And the Allen narrative is that he's a TO machine, careless with protecting the ball on an inconsistent struggling offense. Why does any thinking NFL fan believe much of anything that comes out of the mouths of these so called NFL expert talking heads?

Yep, that is worthy of a magic mushroom in the New Mexico desert celebration.

Except that Allen hasn't thrown a Red Zone INT this season.

Gone Hollywood!

But the reason Shanahans is better is that CMAC is running the play. LB's overcompensate trying to keep track of the guy.

NO.

No but he would have 2 just like Mahomes.

Kincaid is blocking a lot better them most of us thought he would. There were a couple of great examples in yesterday's game.

That was great watching the highlights with comments from a foul mouthed Horshack!

The fake punt was very predictable. I was in a room with 3 other Bills fans and we said that they needed to watch for it because if the Jets gave the ball back to Allen it was game over. None of us were shocked when they attempted the fake. What shocked us was that it worked so well. Sure it worked out in the end thanks to Allen but please, this is exactly the failure of imagination on the part of McD that bites us in the butt several times per year.

Yes there were and in one brutally incompetent coaching decision from McD and his staff and this game is one TO away from turning into a disaster. McD is good for this crap at least once in most games.

McD has to go. Period end of sentence.

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